What do you personally believe in?...
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I have only just started talking to God. What I have learned about Him right now is that He is a very overwhelming force. I talk to Him and thank Him for what I have and always making sure I am ok, even if it is by the skin of my teeth.
I do not, however, subscribe to the Dogma of man. I believe God is there and he loves us. It is man that makes all those confusing laws and rules, God is not vengeful or omnipotent, He just loves us.
So to me God is everthing, he is in the grass, tree, rocks and sand, God is nature and science and love and hate. I believe that he is watching over us, maybe not knowing how many hairs are on our heads (you can't take the bible that literally) but he binds and ties us all together and He has made quite an impression in my life so far and I have only accepted him in the last month.
I do not, however, subscribe to the Dogma of man. I believe God is there and he loves us. It is man that makes all those confusing laws and rules, God is not vengeful or omnipotent, He just loves us.
So to me God is everthing, he is in the grass, tree, rocks and sand, God is nature and science and love and hate. I believe that he is watching over us, maybe not knowing how many hairs are on our heads (you can't take the bible that literally) but he binds and ties us all together and He has made quite an impression in my life so far and I have only accepted him in the last month.
i'm sorry that happened to you.
i have expereinced similar disappointments with the church. i found when i started being honest about what was going on in my life and heart, no one was there. in fact, i was totally deserted. called a sinner and backslider.
my "best friend" told me i was being sinful and willful. she even said i was in a cult (because i was seeing a therapist) and she took her three children (my godchildren) out of my life. i haven't seen them for 2 years. she did all this in God's name. it was the most painful thing to happen in my life.
i feel fine with God.. and i finally have peace in my life. i don't pray, or read the bible, or go to church... and i don't want to . i want to know my heart and feel my life... and i know God wants that for me too.
i have expereinced similar disappointments with the church. i found when i started being honest about what was going on in my life and heart, no one was there. in fact, i was totally deserted. called a sinner and backslider.
my "best friend" told me i was being sinful and willful. she even said i was in a cult (because i was seeing a therapist) and she took her three children (my godchildren) out of my life. i haven't seen them for 2 years. she did all this in God's name. it was the most painful thing to happen in my life.
i feel fine with God.. and i finally have peace in my life. i don't pray, or read the bible, or go to church... and i don't want to . i want to know my heart and feel my life... and i know God wants that for me too.
Well said 
I wish I had faith like so many of you people.. I wish I JUST believed.. no questions.. that I really FELT the presence of god.. that I really BELIEVED in it all.. I've even prayed to 'God' to let me know.. give me that feeling, that belief.. but nothing..
I have an anxiety disorder and because of that I find it very difficult to trust any of my feelings.. I feel fear and panic when I shouldn't.. I cry when there's nothing to cry about.. so how can I justify any other emotion that I feel as a belief..
Then I also find it difficult to put much trust in my perceptions.. if you open up someones brain and mess around with it they hear things that arent there.. hallucinate.. see things differently.. so our perceptions really are just neurons firing in our brains.. if something upsets that our whole reality changes..
I guess I find it very difficult to put faith and trust in ANYTHING at all.. it's a terrible way to be.. more than anything I wish I felt faith in SOMETHING.. it's very empty to have nothing..
I wish I had faith like so many of you people.. I wish I JUST believed.. no questions.. that I really FELT the presence of god.. that I really BELIEVED in it all.. I've even prayed to 'God' to let me know.. give me that feeling, that belief.. but nothing..
I have an anxiety disorder and because of that I find it very difficult to trust any of my feelings.. I feel fear and panic when I shouldn't.. I cry when there's nothing to cry about.. so how can I justify any other emotion that I feel as a belief..
Then I also find it difficult to put much trust in my perceptions.. if you open up someones brain and mess around with it they hear things that arent there.. hallucinate.. see things differently.. so our perceptions really are just neurons firing in our brains.. if something upsets that our whole reality changes..
I guess I find it very difficult to put faith and trust in ANYTHING at all.. it's a terrible way to be.. more than anything I wish I felt faith in SOMETHING.. it's very empty to have nothing..
Squidbert said:
Well said
I wish I had faith like so many of you people.. I wish I JUST believed.. no questions.. that I really FELT the presence of god.. that I really BELIEVED in it all.. I've even prayed to 'God' to let me know.. give me that feeling, that belief.. but nothing..
I have an anxiety disorder and because of that I find it very difficult to trust any of my feelings.. I feel fear and panic when I shouldn't.. I cry when there's nothing to cry about.. so how can I justify any other emotion that I feel as a belief..
Then I also find it difficult to put much trust in my perceptions.. if you open up someones brain and mess around with it they hear things that arent there.. hallucinate.. see things differently.. so our perceptions really are just neurons firing in our brains.. if something upsets that our whole reality changes..
I guess I find it very difficult to put faith and trust in ANYTHING at all.. it's a terrible way to be.. more than anything I wish I felt faith in SOMETHING.. it's very empty to have nothing..
I wish I had faith like so many of you people.. I wish I JUST believed.. no questions.. that I really FELT the presence of god.. that I really BELIEVED in it all.. I've even prayed to 'God' to let me know.. give me that feeling, that belief.. but nothing..
I have an anxiety disorder and because of that I find it very difficult to trust any of my feelings.. I feel fear and panic when I shouldn't.. I cry when there's nothing to cry about.. so how can I justify any other emotion that I feel as a belief..
Then I also find it difficult to put much trust in my perceptions.. if you open up someones brain and mess around with it they hear things that arent there.. hallucinate.. see things differently.. so our perceptions really are just neurons firing in our brains.. if something upsets that our whole reality changes..
I guess I find it very difficult to put faith and trust in ANYTHING at all.. it's a terrible way to be.. more than anything I wish I felt faith in SOMETHING.. it's very empty to have nothing..
That's right... if you believe in something hard enough, it will be true to you... you will FEEL. You'll LOOK and MAKE that feeling happens. It's sort of like the placebo affect. Apparently, it only takes six repetitions to oneself before they fully believe something.
Faith - I have plenty of it. Religion - no.
I have faith in the natural world around me and the lessons it teaches to anyone who pays attention.
Regarding the bible (the only religios text I've perused); yeah, I've read some of it and have made reference to a number of it's stories in a number of posts in this forum. I'm no expert in scripture though and a lot of what I read was while religion was being crammed down my throat. I'll be the first to admit there's some great lessons in the bible, though I suspect there are other sources of great wisdom and knowledge out there if one was to seek them out.
Speaking of seeking things out, I'm a firm believer in the idea that religion should be talked about so long as everyone involved actually WANTS to talk about it. Nothing annoys me more than (as one example) jehovah's witnesses door-knocking. I'm pretty sure the saying went "Seek, and ye shall find", not "Find, and ye shall seek" (though "annoy, and ye shall perish" should be in there somewhere )
I have faith in the natural world around me and the lessons it teaches to anyone who pays attention.
Regarding the bible (the only religios text I've perused); yeah, I've read some of it and have made reference to a number of it's stories in a number of posts in this forum. I'm no expert in scripture though and a lot of what I read was while religion was being crammed down my throat. I'll be the first to admit there's some great lessons in the bible, though I suspect there are other sources of great wisdom and knowledge out there if one was to seek them out.
Speaking of seeking things out, I'm a firm believer in the idea that religion should be talked about so long as everyone involved actually WANTS to talk about it. Nothing annoys me more than (as one example) jehovah's witnesses door-knocking. I'm pretty sure the saying went "Seek, and ye shall find", not "Find, and ye shall seek" (though "annoy, and ye shall perish" should be in there somewhere
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T
But what about those people that don't believe in something, yet still feel and see things from God? I didn't believe. My friend was trying to get me to, but I didn't believe.. and God was showing me so many things, giving so many subtle hints.... And I was pretty blind to them at first, but then I finally learned the Truth, and just accpeted it.
Squidbert said:
Hmmmm... maybe I should just keep telling myself I believe in god.. then I will! Usually whenI begin to really feel any belief in god as a greater being, something happens to override that feeling and I'm back to thinking.. "Nah.. there's no god.. geez.. how could there be?? "
Somethings happens to the neurons firing in their brain? I'm not saying this in any disrespect at all.. I'm really not.. I completly respect anyone who has complete faith in anything and I envy them that.. but that's just one thing that comes into my mind that makes me doubt..
With all the stuff that's continually happening in the brain it's reasonable (for me at least) to think that at least ONCE in life something gets messed with and you're perceptions are changed.. and how many times would this need to happen for you to 'believe' in something.. OnceI would imagine.. I'd only need to see ONE vision or hear ONE word from 'god' to start a belief.. then from there you start to believe and with that belief you start to SEE more things that you've never really noticed before..
Not sure if this makes any sense to you or not.. it does in my whacked out head
With all the stuff that's continually happening in the brain it's reasonable (for me at least) to think that at least ONCE in life something gets messed with and you're perceptions are changed.. and how many times would this need to happen for you to 'believe' in something.. OnceI would imagine.. I'd only need to see ONE vision or hear ONE word from 'god' to start a belief.. then from there you start to believe and with that belief you start to SEE more things that you've never really noticed before..
Not sure if this makes any sense to you or not.. it does in my whacked out head
I have faith that when I turn the light switch the lights are going to come on. Why? Because a million times in my life that's what I've done and that's what's happened.
I have faith that my bills are going to come in the mail every month. Why? Because they always do and companies want their money.
"I have faith in God". Why? Because.. I was told that he's there... and that he loves me... Just not enough reason for me to have faith I guess.
I have faith that my bills are going to come in the mail every month. Why? Because they always do and companies want their money.
"I have faith in God". Why? Because.. I was told that he's there... and that he loves me... Just not enough reason for me to have faith I guess.
I keep seeing people say that they don't go to church because they hate being preached to and think it's wrong for someone to tell you what you should and shouldn't believe. The thing is, it's not someone telling us what we should and shouldn't believe and should and shouldn't do. For the most part people that go to church go because they already believe those things they are being forced into believing it or being brainwashed. They already have their reasons for believing. Most people don't just blindly walk into a church to see what they have to say and come out mindless zombies If you go to a church to listen about a faith you don't follow then of course it's going to sound bad to you.
Also in regards to the stealing thing. I guess it is great to think that he is stealing to save a life but what if that action costs someone else their life? Like say he steals the treatment so now that Dr is going to charge more to make up for the money lost. The next person may not be able to afford it for sure because it is even more expensive. Just some food for thought
I really don't think it takes a lot to believe. Believing and having faith is easy. Probably the easiest thing I have ever done. Talking to God should never be something that is hard to do.
of course FINDING your faith is the hard part for some.
If you go to a church to listen about a faith you don't follow then of course it's going to sound bad to you. Also in regards to the stealing thing. I guess it is great to think that he is stealing to save a life but what if that action costs someone else their life? Like say he steals the treatment so now that Dr is going to charge more to make up for the money lost. The next person may not be able to afford it for sure because it is even more expensive. Just some food for thought
I really don't think it takes a lot to believe. Believing and having faith is easy. Probably the easiest thing I have ever done. Talking to God should never be something that is hard to do.
of course FINDING your faith is the hard part for some.
T
Squidbert said:
Somethings happens to the neurons firing in their brain? I'm not saying this in any disrespect at all.. I'm really not.. I completly respect anyone who has complete faith in anything and I envy them that.. but that's just one thing that comes into my mind that makes me doubt..
With all the stuff that's continually happening in the brain it's reasonable (for me at least) to think that at least ONCE in life something gets messed with and you're perceptions are changed.. and how many times would this need to happen for you to 'believe' in something.. OnceI would imagine.. I'd only need to see ONE vision or hear ONE word from 'god' to start a belief.. then from there you start to believe and with that belief you start to SEE more things that you've never really noticed before..
Not sure if this makes any sense to you or not.. it does in my whacked out head
With all the stuff that's continually happening in the brain it's reasonable (for me at least) to think that at least ONCE in life something gets messed with and you're perceptions are changed.. and how many times would this need to happen for you to 'believe' in something.. OnceI would imagine.. I'd only need to see ONE vision or hear ONE word from 'god' to start a belief.. then from there you start to believe and with that belief you start to SEE more things that you've never really noticed before..
Not sure if this makes any sense to you or not.. it does in my whacked out head
But it wasn't just the one time that God showed me he was there that I started to believe. In fact, he had to show me over and over again. Not just ONE time. He's still showing me, really. Though my doubts are coming much less often, he's still always there to take away my blindess and doubt. He's always there to open my eyes and heart. Sure.. if it was just once or twice.. but it wasn't. It isn't. And it won't be. God will continue to be there for me.