Settle down.
The gun argument never goes anywhere. As Coop said, we are hardly all Americans here. We all have different values and morals, and that includes ownership and use of firearms. These arguments never go anywhere, and as you've just proven, it usually devolves into statements of patriotism and not wanting the right to bear arms equalling a lack of pride.
You can keep pushing your country's pride on everyone here, but we all have our own things to be proud of too, and if stricter gun laws is one of those things, we have a right to feel that way, just as you have a right to bear your arms.
It's still going to be an endless cycle of "I'm right, you're wrong" until the thread dissolves and it starts up again in a few months. That was all I was commenting on. I'm not mocking anyone's beliefs, just the argument itself.
Settle down? Slim chance of that. :lol-sign:
I'm not pushing my beliefs on anyone who isn't receptive. I'm not trying to push anyone or deny you your rights to feel how you feel. I'm merely expressing my viewpoint. Isn't that the point of a forum?
This original topic was about something that happened in America. This is about trading American freedoms for a little temporary "security." This is what John Green, (the American man this thread is about) is standing for. I couldn't care less what other countries do about guns and their citizens. I care about America. I feel like John Green feels about freedom from oppression at the price of some risks.
I am not trying to take away the pride others feel for their country's ways. Never once did I mention anything derogatory about other countries. My whole purpose is to remind or educate other
AMERICANS how we got out freedoms, how our country was founded in the first place. On account of citizens having guns and why we must
never turn them over to any government ever. So, no...everyone here is not American. But every thread can not cater to everyone either. This one happens to have originated from the story of an American, John Green, whose ideals many of us share. If anyone finds it disdainful or distasteful, you don't have to read this thread.
Why are so many against having an "argument?" It's a healthy debate. What's wrong with that? I've seen a lot of good points made here by RTH, Lil, Laur, Renee and a few others...I forget now.
BTW: It is absolutely
not irresponsible to carry a gun, safely in a gun rack on a pick-up truck. This is how people around here carry their guns when they're going hunting. It's absolutely normal and a very safe way to transport a gun. I have walked into the little corner store and there was a guy I know with a hand gun in a holster on his belt. I didn't think much about it. I've carried my hand gun in my back pocket on a few hikes I went on.
So, yeah, I don't get the gun phobia thing either. I grew up with them, was taught how to shoot and care for guns at a pretty early age. I went target shooting with my Dad every week end and I became a crack shot. He called me "Dead-eye." for a nick name. lol. I shot shot guns, a .22 Savage rifle, several hand guns. And now I own some assault rifles as well. They're fun to shoot targets. My sister had the same, typical hysteria type reaction: Only people who want to kill people have assault rifles. Nice sister, huh. So that means I have the mind of a murderer and have these guns because I can hardly wait to murder someone. No..assault rifles are exhilerating to shoot targets with, some are very light weight, no recoil, accurate, have great scopes...basically they're nice to have.....because....*get this*
I can.
Here's hoping that Americans remember what this country stands for, how we got here, how regular citizens fought a bloody war and won our freedom from the oppression of a tyrannical government
BECAUSE THEY HAD GUNS. Don't ever let the citizens be stripped of our ability to defend ourselves from a government which has gotten too powerful. Or from individual harm from evil criminals. Hold steadfast to your right to keep and bear arms. Stop government regulations which infringe on that right. They'll chip and widdle away and won't stop until they strip us bare. That is my plea to other Americans.
