Parents..would you be mad?

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As I've already said, court orders, I follow them or lose my children. If I'm far away from home and my son is hungry, I feed him. Sorry that you cannot understand that apparently you've never had to care for a child with failure to thrive, acid reflux, milk allergy and numerous other problems.
There are plenty of healthy foods that are very portable and do not spoil you could bring for your son to eat. Or failing that, there is always take out. Many restaurants with healthy food offer takeout.

One of my favorite kids I used to nanny for only weighed 18 lbs at 3 years old due to problems like you're describing. Only, she also had celiac disease, allergies to nuts, chocolate, soy, and dairy so she literally couldn't eat out or cross contamination would kill her. She wasn't a stay at home shut-in because of her condition and food requirements. Oftentimes I would take her on 4-5 hour outings and just pack pre-made specialized food for her. It can be done, and it's a LOT less expensive than eating out all the time if you're on a budget.

Maybe you're already involved in one, but there are some great forums for parents facing challenges like you're describing. Maybe checking them out and finding out how those parents deal with feeding their children on a budget outside the home would be helpful.
 

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The overwhelming entitlement in this thread on some parts is disgusting.
Curious, entitlement on which side? People being entitled to personal space or people being entitled to being in a restaurant no matter how their children behave?

Honestly, I think what Fran did was fine. I am no kid-hater, I like kids and I work with them. But I think for a split second decision, her actions were not wrong. The kid ran into a paper menu. He'll get over it.

Stupid parents.
 

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A little late here, butttt... I would have reacted in the same exact way. I LIKE kids, I really do, but even if I wasn't wearing a white dress I would have tried to block the kid. I wouldn't have run away because IMO that looks even more unprofessional than blocking the kid. So much more could happen if you don't think and run in a resteraunt. Running in a restaraunt is not safe at all.
So even if I was wearing my waitressing cloths ( I had to wear black pants & a white blouse) I would not want a tomatoe sauce covered 4-year-old CHILD to hug me. I have to clean those cloths before I go back to work, thats my job and I try not to cover them in nasty things. If a kid gets tomatoe sauce on there, its not a given that it will wash out the first time I wash it. So yeah, i would block the child too. Maybe not the best reaction, but if I had the menu in my hand and a second to think, then yeah, thats what I would do.

Also, as someone who waitresses, and like children - I would not appreciate a child who crys, throws a fit or throws food around. I know children can and will act up in a restaraunt. But as a parent it is your job to look after them, and if you can't control them either, don't take them to a restaraunt. Plan around it, its not that hard. You can take food with you to tide them over until dinner. Sit down in a quiet place and feed them. If they don't usually act up and then do do it because they are having a bad day, you need to remove them from the place and calm them down.
 

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Parents who assume that the world has to love children and put up with them and cut them slack because they are children and we should all love children. Well I don't. I don't even tolerate children well. I work in retail, and if someone sent the child to hug me, I would have been a hell of a lot let polite. Send your child to hug someone against their will could be construed as simple assault. I don't want to be touched, your child forcefully touched me. By the law, that is assault. I think knocking the kid back is a hell of a lot more polite than pushed the child, and running away probably would have been even worse because then you have someones spawn in pursuit of you in a restuarant. If the bugger had fallen and hit his head on the corner of the table you can probably put money on it the parents would have been calling a lawyer.
 

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I would have done the same Fran. I hate nothing worse then when people inflict their children on me!
 

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I would never tell my child to go hug a stranger like that... that's just odd. But if a kid came up to me to hug me, I'd just go ahead and let them because I wouldn't want to make them feel rejected.. that's just me, it wouldn't be a big deal to me. I would not be thrilled if they were filthy when they did it though...lol

I don't think u were wrong in not wanting to be hugged, the parents should not have told their child to do that.
 

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Wow, this thread REALLY grew! hahahahaha

I am curious about two things after reading all these pages (yes, I did read them all!)

1. Fran is always mentioning how clumsy she is (not a jab sweetie, I have that affliction myself) and yet she works as a waitress? Not a fast food waitress to just hand the food over the counter..........but a real waitress bringing real food and drinks out to the table on a real tray? :eek:

2. She is a clutz (her words) who is a waitress, who wears a brand new white dress to work in? :eek:

Both of those things make me wonder why a few of you seem to think she was/would be unable to gracefully sidestep that child and not end up with an accident of her own. If she can safely maneuver a tray of food and drinks to a table of customers (not easy, I have much respect for those how can weave through customers and obstacles while balancing that tray) then in my mind she could have easily turned, pivoted, sidestepped, and avoided that child's grasp. *shrugs* JMO

Now before anyone goes bonkers, you can look back to like page one and see my initial response, and after reading all these comments, I still agree with what I wrote.

The gist: The parents were completely WRONG to send their kid her way, no excuse. Fran handled it badly (which I think she admitted when she said she wasn't proud) A bad situation that I hope BOTH parties have learned something from.
 

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I think Fran did the child a favor. Maybe next time the kid will think before running off and hugging a stranger. Geesh, I bet these parents are the ones who cry the loudest when their child doesn't come home from playing outside because he/she climbed in a stranger's car for chocolates. I don't think children should be anti-social, but they should learn boundaries and a four year old child is old enough to understand that.

CMG.... maybe if you wouldn't stomp in here and call people names, people would have more empathy with you and with your situation.
 

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YES ship ship shippppppppp

they took away the chicken stew in a bread bowl :O how DARE they.

ooooh and ice caps with chocolate milk instead of cream. oh man I miss it and it's almost summer here.
LOL,,so when you visit family in Canada, do you make sure to get your Timmie's fix? :) Can't say I like the ice caps, but I love flavoured shots in my coffee
 

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I didn't read the whole thing and at first I was like "No, I'd probably be embarrassed my kid was acting so rude and out of control" But then I realized the woman TOLD him to do it?? Why would she tell her child to hug their waitress, unless it was like you had been their waitress every saturday night since the kid was BORN and knew them really well or something, that's weird.
 
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Parents need to control their kids, if they don't other people will, and it wont always be pretty. People have different boundaries and that is a good lesson to learn early.
 

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I dont like kids.. but that certainly doesn't mean that this is how I react to all children at my work. I smile, and wave, am polite and friendly, help them order, bring them their food.. because that is my job.
hugging dirty children? not part of my job description

I am good at my job, and before the said family left, I did get a big tip lol which I did give back to them.. but anyway its not about liking kids, its about ACTING like I like them because.. its my job to be POLITE AND FRIENDLY TO ALL CUSTOMERS regardless of age, race, etc.. etc..

but being friendly and polite, for me, doesn't mean hugging dirty children..

and yes, if it was a dog I would've done the same thing for the SAME REASON. I dont like strangers dogs all over me. I wasn't MEAN to the kid, I didn't smack him with the menu..its making a distance between us


well... in all honesty I still would have been a bit ticked off about the whole thing. I wouldnt' have sent my child over anyway but besides that. i would still be ticked. I don't know that I would bring it up with the manager or just seeth on my own... but as a parent I would be pissed.

also if it's just a laminated paper how did it make him stumble back?

I definitely think the parents were wrong but I also think your reaction was also an incorrect one.. as a parent.
When you bend the menus, the snap back to be straight. it is just laminated paper with a plastic frame. Maybe the stumble was because of that, maybe he just was shocked.. I honestly do not know. He just took a couple of steps back
but I certainly didn't push him and it wasn't the pure force of the menu.. I dunno, it all happened really fast lol but no, it wasn't as dramatized as im sure a few of you are picturing. I did not hit, push, or POKE the kid with the menu

I used the term "like a stick" because it stuck straight out.
and again, I DID NOT PUT THE MENU OUT WITH THE INTENT ON HIM RUNNING INTO IT or even touching it.. I thought the kid would see it and stop.

Stepping back/stepping away? lol if you guys saw my restaurant you would understand. tables are all over, its a very tiny italian place on the beach. I was backed up against the back of somebodies chair/another table

soooo without jumping on top of their table, or sitting in a strangers lap.. there really was no way for me to get away.

Did I say I was proud of the way I handled it? No. I said it was a REFLEX and that I wasn't proud of the way I handled the situation. but i certainly dont think it was RUDE or horrible.. I didn't smack the kid.

Now that I look back, I know I could've probably squeezed myself in between two chairs and ran to the kitchen.. but honestly, im pretty sure the parents would've reacted the same way. For them, it wasn't about the menu, it was about me not wanting to hug their child

My manager saw the entire thing, and told me I was in the right. Again, its assault wether its a child or not, I dont have to let anybodys kid touch me

but I appreciate your opinion lol thats what this thread was about. "Would you be mad?" and you said you would be..I accept that
I dont GET IT lol but I accept it

if my hypothetical daughter covered in pasta sauce ran up to someone and they PUSHED her away, I wouldn't be offended or anything. Its my job to keep my dirty children away from others, and I should've been controlling her better


Wow, this thread REALLY grew! hahahahaha

I am curious about two things after reading all these pages (yes, I did read them all!)

1. Fran is always mentioning how clumsy she is (not a jab sweetie, I have that affliction myself) and yet she works as a waitress? Not a fast food waitress to just hand the food over the counter..........but a real waitress bringing real food and drinks out to the table on a real tray? :eek:

2. She is a clutz (her words) who is a waitress, who wears a brand new white dress to work in? :eek:

Both of those things make me wonder why a few of you seem to think she was/would be unable to gracefully sidestep that child and not end up with an accident of her own. If she can safely maneuver a tray of food and drinks to a table of customers (not easy, I have much respect for those how can weave through customers and obstacles while balancing that tray) then in my mind she could have easily turned, pivoted, sidestepped, and avoided that child's grasp. *shrugs* JMO

Now before anyone goes bonkers, you can look back to like page one and see my initial response, and after reading all these comments, I still agree with what I wrote.

The gist: The parents were completely WRONG to send their kid her way, no excuse. Fran handled it badly (which I think she admitted when she said she wasn't proud) A bad situation that I hope BOTH parties have learned something from.

1. Yes, not the best job for me.. I am clumsy. but this job kinda helps me work on that.. its carrying plates, not really a tray. and drinks and I practice a lot and its kinda helped me work on the whole..dropping everything placed in my hands..thing. and again, the restaurant is way to small for me to sidestep or run away. it would've been me jumping on another persons table or someone's lap

I didn't really have all the choices in the world, my mom knows the woman who owns the restaurant so this is where I got a job.

2. Yes, I wear pretty dresses to work in because frankly, I like to lol. Theres no real reason why I do, but for the last couple of days I have been accident free so I decided to wear it. It looks cute and I thought, why not? We have to wear dresses anyway
Some of the waitresses wear the same black dresses everyday, and that would be easier for me to do.. but I like wearing different outfits to work

and if I do spill something on my dresses, well then, its my fault and i accept that, thats what dry cleaners are for. but I don't think I should have to grin and bear it and hug the child KNOWING my dress is gonna need dry cleaning. those parents for sure weren't gonna pay for it.

Honestly, I'd be down right pissed off but then again maybe I'm weird. Perhaps the parents shouldn't have their children hugging random stranger but you work in a place where children are present and the way you handled things IMO was unprofessional. Honestly, if you can't handle children, find a job without them or cease wearing "cute white dresses" I'm sorry but the whole original post sounded like something straight out of a rich snobby brats mouth. No offense.
No offense lol thats so funny

maybe people would be a little more sensitive to your "situation" if you didn't start with name calling and insults.

but for arguments sake..lemme try and break it down

Rich?
My parents? ya maybe
me? ..certainly NOT! lol because waitressing is totally what people do when they've got money to BURN

Snobby?
I fail to see where this came from..
or did I miss the part where I called the child a filthy peasant lol :rofl1:

maybe its because I wear nice dresses to work.. so lets try and go down that road. I wear pretty dresses to work because I like looking nice. This is a free country, and im pretty sure people are allowed to wear whatever they want
wearing "cute white dresses" is my decision and my right. some people like wearing their pajamas in public, some like dresses, some like jeans..
hugging kids? again, I don't have to hug anybody I don't want to.

Who is more of a brat?
the girl who wants to look her best at work and just doesn't want to hug dirty children so put something between her and the child
or the women who will disturb an ENTIRE restaurant full of people with her screaming misbehaved child instead of packing him a lunch or ordering to-go ?


Oh and ya, restaurant food is TOTALLY healthy :rofl1:
forget that crap parenting books tell you about home cooked meals, restaurants are the way to go! lol
even "healthy" restaurants are less healthy than something that could be made at home, like it or not, that food is being made fast when you order, the chefs are busy, and its made to taste good. and usually this involves a couple of things..
SALT, SAUCE & BUTTER.






I think that pretty much covered everybodys questions lol but ill go back again and check
 
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If the grubby kid was heading full tilt towards you and you stepped out of the way, things could have been much worse. What would the rug rat hit? Chair, table, dishes, other customers? There was no way this was going to end well because of the decision of the idiot parents. You would have been blamed for whatever happened. What you did was probably the best outcome.
 

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Hey Fran, if you sat on someone's lap you would have at least gotten an amazing tip there, so this was an option to consider.
 

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Hey Fran, if you sat on someone's lap you would have at least gotten an amazing tip there, so this was an option to consider.
Only if she was covered in food at the same time, because that's the best kind of physical contact.

:rofl1:

Actually, I'm fairly sure there's a Japanese fetish for that. They have one for everything else. o_O
 

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1. Yes, not the best job for me.. I am clumsy. but this job kinda helps me work on that.. its carrying plates, not really a tray. and drinks and I practice a lot and its kinda helped me work on the whole..dropping everything placed in my hands..thing. and again, the restaurant is way to small for me to sidestep or run away. it would've been me jumping on another persons table or someone's lap

I didn't really have all the choices in the world, my mom knows the woman who owns the restaurant so this is where I got a job.

2. Yes, I wear pretty dresses to work in because frankly, I like to lol. Theres no real reason why I do, but for the last couple of days I have been accident free so I decided to wear it. It looks cute and I thought, why not? We have to wear dresses anyway
Some of the waitresses wear the same black dresses everyday, and that would be easier for me to do.. but I like wearing different outfits to work

and if I do spill something on my dresses, well then, its my fault and i accept that, thats what dry cleaners are for. but I don't think I should have to grin and bear it and hug the child KNOWING my dress is gonna need dry cleaning. those parents for sure weren't gonna pay for it.
Oh I think you misunderstood the point of my post, LOL

I don't care if you are clumsy (I am too) and are a waitress. That is your's (and your customer's) to deal with. I also don't care if you wear a perfect new white dress to work in. I like to look my best as well because when I look good, I generally feel good.

The point I was attempting to make (obviously not well, LOL) was there were a few claiming you weren't able to move out of the child's way due to your clumsiness. (or to that affect) So I am saying if you are a waitress, you carry trays laden with food and drink while dodging obstacles and people, felt comfortable enough in your abilities to do this while wearing an outfit you didn't want ruined, then in MY mind you were fully capable to dodge the child if you had wanted to :) That's all.

Definitely not making any judgment calls on your choice of attire or choice in jobs. I figure if you didn't do a good job, was constantly dropping, breaking, or dumping things on customers, your boss would handle that right? LOL
 

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To me all servers should wear aprons ~ accidents happen .
We dont wear aprons our boss thinks they are "tacky" and "ugly" lol
we all have to wear dresses or neutral colors (black, white, navy blue, grey, beige) that are "family appropriate" lol

Hey Fran, if you sat on someone's lap you would have at least gotten an amazing tip there, so this was an option to consider.
lol We had the CUTEST guy walk in to eat ALONE once, I was there to take his order.. OMG, took all my strength to not sit on his lap and tell him EXACTLY what I want for christmas :rofl1:


Oh I think you misunderstood the point of my post, LOL

I don't care if you are clumsy (I am too) and are a waitress. That is your's (and your customer's) to deal with. I also don't care if you wear a perfect new white dress to work in. I like to look my best as well because when I look good, I generally feel good.

The point I was attempting to make (obviously not well, LOL) was there were a few claiming you weren't able to move out of the child's way due to your clumsiness. (or to that affect) So I am saying if you are a waitress, you carry trays laden with food and drink while dodging obstacles and people, felt comfortable enough in your abilities to do this while wearing an outfit you didn't want ruined, then in MY mind you were fully capable to dodge the child if you had wanted to :) That's all.

Definitely not making any judgment calls on your choice of attire or choice in jobs. I figure if you didn't do a good job, was constantly dropping, breaking, or dumping things on customers, your boss would handle that right? LOL
Ohhh I gotcha! lol

lol my boss had to deal with me falling over the place for a WHILE, but he made me practice before opening/closing.. carrying around empty plates and cups full of water.
Now, when I do fall, its always on the way back to the kitchen to tell them the order, and not when I have food in my hand! lol baby steps! thats progress!
 

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