It's the amazing non shedding ipod. 
And I think those treeing woodles should be renamed treeing coondles in order to avoid confusion with the whoodle.
And I think those treeing woodles should be renamed treeing coondles in order to avoid confusion with the whoodle.
I think the Whoodle should be renamed the Peaten Terrier or Pooten Terrier to avoid confusion with the Treeing Woodle.
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NOW im getting some good response thanks for the info LETS pretend get your heads out of the sand IF there is trouble brewing in this county and their comes a time you need protection for you and your personal belongings a large intelligent dog with the ability to
protect you may save your life most large mastiff type breeds are not the brightest or easy to train and many are not that loyal or trustworthy many dogs like shepherds ,
collies,dobermans may be willing to protect you but could do little against an intruder with a pit bull in terms of survival a dogo can run all day tracking a wild boar and actually kill it, this could be used to feed many in a survival situation but they are not loyal enough ,like a shepherd to stay by your side as they roam like many hunting dogs
I know of no large breed that has the loyalty and intelligence ,trainability of a shepherd and the endurance ,protection and hunting ability of the dogo and both dogs have many simialar traits f1 is a beginning and selective breeding should not be that difficult I am starting with top quality dogs my biggest problem will be outcrossing and inbreeding
protect you may save your life most large mastiff type breeds are not the brightest or easy to train and many are not that loyal or trustworthy many dogs like shepherds ,
collies,dobermans may be willing to protect you but could do little against an intruder with a pit bull in terms of survival a dogo can run all day tracking a wild boar and actually kill it, this could be used to feed many in a survival situation but they are not loyal enough ,like a shepherd to stay by your side as they roam like many hunting dogs
I know of no large breed that has the loyalty and intelligence ,trainability of a shepherd and the endurance ,protection and hunting ability of the dogo and both dogs have many simialar traits f1 is a beginning and selective breeding should not be that difficult I am starting with top quality dogs my biggest problem will be outcrossing and inbreeding
i did ask a serious question that has yet to be adressed...
if your trying to be a responsible respecatable breeder...
and your planing on being SERIOUS about "developing" a new breed...
what makes your dogs worthy of being the start for a new breed...
i would like to know what titles the parents have, given the "purposes" for the breed you propose, schutzhund, SAR, agility, police dogs, obedience, Therapy?!
i would also like to know what health testing will be done on the parents.
it would also be interesting to knwo how you go about "developing" this breed as only one person.
developing a new breed takes a group of highly dedicated people with a set list of temperment and physical characteristics their looking for in their "breed"
i would like to know how you plan on developing this breed.
what are the goals in terms of physical characteristics.
to be a "breed" you have to have a number of things:
1: a goal, purpose and plan
2: a standard to adhere to
3: healthy breeding stock
4: multiple generations breeding true to said set standard.
id also like to know why your developing this breed considering all the things your planning on breedeing for are all done absolutly wonderfully by existing breeds...
why develop a new one when theres more than enough breeds out their suited to this "multi use" kind of home your "breed" is going to be aimed at.
i also feel mixing a breed like the dogo with a shepard (german belgian or other) is a terrible desicion. both breeds are perfectly fine without unessicary tampering, and both breeds have very specific home/training needs that would NOT compliment eachother well.
so if your serious about having this discussion then as i said, some tough questions to answer here.
if your trying to be a responsible respecatable breeder...
and your planing on being SERIOUS about "developing" a new breed...
what makes your dogs worthy of being the start for a new breed...
i would like to know what titles the parents have, given the "purposes" for the breed you propose, schutzhund, SAR, agility, police dogs, obedience, Therapy?!
i would also like to know what health testing will be done on the parents.
it would also be interesting to knwo how you go about "developing" this breed as only one person.
developing a new breed takes a group of highly dedicated people with a set list of temperment and physical characteristics their looking for in their "breed"
i would like to know how you plan on developing this breed.
what are the goals in terms of physical characteristics.
to be a "breed" you have to have a number of things:
1: a goal, purpose and plan
2: a standard to adhere to
3: healthy breeding stock
4: multiple generations breeding true to said set standard.
id also like to know why your developing this breed considering all the things your planning on breedeing for are all done absolutly wonderfully by existing breeds...
why develop a new one when theres more than enough breeds out their suited to this "multi use" kind of home your "breed" is going to be aimed at.
i also feel mixing a breed like the dogo with a shepard (german belgian or other) is a terrible desicion. both breeds are perfectly fine without unessicary tampering, and both breeds have very specific home/training needs that would NOT compliment eachother well.
so if your serious about having this discussion then as i said, some tough questions to answer here.
No living being is of any use against an intruder's gun. You're better off with a electronic security system and a big gun. And you're wrong that there isn't any big mastiff type dog that isn't a good protection dog. Ask Renee. They're perfectly intelligent enough. It doesn't take a lot of intelligence anyhow to do something that is instinctive.
youve never met a Fila, pressa, cane corso or boerboel have you!?
all breeds do all of what your "goaling" towards and more.
the labradoodle is NOT a breed, the Australian labradoodle started as a development to breed a hypoalergenic service dog...
but after multiple generations and a huge effort by a large group of people the breed still doesnt breed true.
while some in AUSTRALIA are still working towards "fixing type" in the labradoodle, the american labradoodle is nowhere neer a breed nor a good example.
in a litter, even with multi gen, you still get some pups with a poodle coat, some pups with a labs coat, and most pups with a coat somewhere in between.
the "hypoalergenic" service dog goal was not met, its not a breed and theres no SERIOUS efforts in the us that i know of that are breeding for a true labradoodle.
there are again though still efforts in the australian labradoodle...
however the majority of labradoodle breeders in the us are NOT considered resposible, repuatable breeders.
im not quite sure how one person is going to have sucess where a large educated and very dedicated group failed.
and youve yet to adress my questions on the parent/foundation stock titles and health testing.
all breeds do all of what your "goaling" towards and more.
the labradoodle is NOT a breed, the Australian labradoodle started as a development to breed a hypoalergenic service dog...
but after multiple generations and a huge effort by a large group of people the breed still doesnt breed true.
while some in AUSTRALIA are still working towards "fixing type" in the labradoodle, the american labradoodle is nowhere neer a breed nor a good example.
in a litter, even with multi gen, you still get some pups with a poodle coat, some pups with a labs coat, and most pups with a coat somewhere in between.
the "hypoalergenic" service dog goal was not met, its not a breed and theres no SERIOUS efforts in the us that i know of that are breeding for a true labradoodle.
there are again though still efforts in the australian labradoodle...
however the majority of labradoodle breeders in the us are NOT considered resposible, repuatable breeders.
im not quite sure how one person is going to have sucess where a large educated and very dedicated group failed.
and youve yet to adress my questions on the parent/foundation stock titles and health testing.
The intruders here don't use pit bulls, they use guns. Maybe you're thinking of The Doberman Gang?
And I don't have wild boars here. Deer, geese, herons, foxes and quite the little family of blue jays. But no boar. I also have a supermarket and running water, so I'm not really doing the survivalist thing.
And I don't have wild boars here. Deer, geese, herons, foxes and quite the little family of blue jays. But no boar. I also have a supermarket and running water, so I'm not really doing the survivalist thing.
it was originally. It was given up as a serious project when the cross just wouldn't breed true. And that many labradoodles aren't in anyway shape or form hypoallergenic.
Thats the thing, if you want to create a new breed you have to really plan for the future. You need to think about what this dog's niche is.
Personally I don't care how many breeds out there are almost the same. (my main love is JRTs and at the tiem there were a few other small hunting terriers) But what are you trying to create that will set your dog's apart from other breeds? How do you plan to achieve it? What happens if what you want is not possible genetically? Do you have a plan with what to do with pups who aren't what you want? Do you have the space to take back potentially dozens of dogs who don't work out over the years? Most breeders have to take back a few.. but at the numbers you are looking at you should be prepared to take back many.
Are you equipped to train and show these dogs? If not do you have the funds to pay someone to do so for you?
How are you going to get people who own top dogs to allow their dog's to be used in your breeding program?
Thats the thing, if you want to create a new breed you have to really plan for the future. You need to think about what this dog's niche is.
Personally I don't care how many breeds out there are almost the same. (my main love is JRTs and at the tiem there were a few other small hunting terriers) But what are you trying to create that will set your dog's apart from other breeds? How do you plan to achieve it? What happens if what you want is not possible genetically? Do you have a plan with what to do with pups who aren't what you want? Do you have the space to take back potentially dozens of dogs who don't work out over the years? Most breeders have to take back a few.. but at the numbers you are looking at you should be prepared to take back many.
Are you equipped to train and show these dogs? If not do you have the funds to pay someone to do so for you?
How are you going to get people who own top dogs to allow their dog's to be used in your breeding program?
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IVE already answered most of your question,but maybe ytou didnt understand.
my female german shepherd is the granddaughter of 3 usa world sieger champions and two time usa champions she is a1 and ofa tedted my male dogo is son of ukc european champion and is ofa and baer tested and i understand genetics and plan to select trait breed and dont you know that the dogo was created by one man and the sheherd was also the brain child of one man i will set breed standards as they progress and name me one breed with the loyalty and trainability of a gsd and the hunting and protection ability of the dogo combined and ill get one
my female german shepherd is the granddaughter of 3 usa world sieger champions and two time usa champions she is a1 and ofa tedted my male dogo is son of ukc european champion and is ofa and baer tested and i understand genetics and plan to select trait breed and dont you know that the dogo was created by one man and the sheherd was also the brain child of one man i will set breed standards as they progress and name me one breed with the loyalty and trainability of a gsd and the hunting and protection ability of the dogo combined and ill get one
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You are correct, an F1 IS a beginning . . . but why the heck are you bragging about a beginning?! You have so many years of inbreeding and outcrossing and linebreeding and inbreeding to do before you even have the slightest bit of consistency, which is what creating a breed is all about. Though dog A may have perfect temperament for it's breed and dog B may have perfect temperament for it's breed, it doesn't mean that the marriage of these dogs is going to equal a nice medium when it comes to temperament. In fact it could very easily go the opposite way.
IF for some reason you feel that you need to develop a new breed for the situations that you described (personally I feel very safe with my PP bred dogs . . . and also PP trained of course), then you also need to be serious about the development and not focus on pimping your dogs until you have your desired consistency. People who start at the infancy of a breed do so with HUGE yards of dogs, loads of culling, and the ability to not be kennel blind. Can you do that?
IF for some reason you feel that you need to develop a new breed for the situations that you described (personally I feel very safe with my PP bred dogs . . . and also PP trained of course), then you also need to be serious about the development and not focus on pimping your dogs until you have your desired consistency. People who start at the infancy of a breed do so with HUGE yards of dogs, loads of culling, and the ability to not be kennel blind. Can you do that?