just plain messy

[Island dog]

What bothers me about this entire situation is how do you separate the lies from the truth? After what's been posted proving many false statements made by FW, can you believe anything about her character or claims? My overall impression is that she has major problems and creates 'facts' about her experience, past and present situations to impress those who will listen. I doubt she lasts long around people who pay attention to her statements.

She stated she had an emergency vet fund and yet also stated she had no income/savings and has been unemployed for months. She seems to believe she can get land to homestead without any money, relying on her father to front the required funds. Everything about her future plans don't involve her earning what is required like the rest of us - she expects to be set up. I guess what I'm trying to say is she is not realistic about anything, and to me her actions/statements/lies make her untrustworthy. I wish she would seek some help from a professional to help her turn her life around and get out of the dependency on her parents. The longer she's there, the harder it is to leave and stand on her own two feet. I hope her future is brighter.

 

[Crowsfeet]

I wish she would seek some help from a professional to help her turn her life around... ..I hope her future is brighter.

Ditto, Island Dog


When a person clearly knows that what their actions convey is against all they have learned, even after basically prescribing all the knowledge they've accumulated as mantras for the ignorant(via the Chaz forum), something is wrong.

At this time, I don't necessarily see what Foxy is doing as deceptive behavior.. it comes across to me, a little closer to maintaing very strong dualities in her daily life. More as though like she's fighting between two sides, as opposed to straightening her priorities to be stable with one. Really, who spends so much of their time and effort researching animal rehabilitation and behavior, hashing out calm, collected advice, and then entirely compromising all they've collected as knowledge and experience.


It's obvious that not all is right in Foxy's world, she clearly needs help. I hope she can find the awareness to slow down and discover what needs to be done.

 

[puppydog]

i hope you can care for it with all that is going on in your life.

This is quite possibly THE rudest thing I have ever heard in my life! How dare you insinuate that just because Pam is ill that she does not have a plan in place to care for her pup?
What about people who have service dogs, they shouldn't have them because they are ill or disables?

Seriously, you need to get off your high horse.

 

[~Jessie~]

You are absolutely right Fran, no doubt about it..........and that doesn't count all the stories (plural) we've heard from Foxy about her dogs as well. Rescues, not rescues, health problems, no health problems, oops litter, planned breeding for the future.......it's all enough to rule that breeder out WITHOUT seeing that website. The website is just frosting on the cake.

I am very disheartened to see her advertising 'breeding rights' for these pups.......it makes me sad beyond belief because SHE DOES KNOW BETTER. She is not an uneducated 'joe shmo' off the street

She fooled all of us, Mods too. We bought her stories hook line and sinker. I'm going to be completely forth coming and say when this first came to light I was confused and thought SURELY there was an explanation. Then I was hurt she could behave that way and walk out. Now, after seeing that website for myself, I am angry. Angry that she fooled me so thoroughly, angry that it was completely intentional, and angry she doesn't have the spine to show her face back here. I completely agree with those who say it was no oops..........no accident litter, and that makes me even angrier!

But that anger will not be directed at Pam or the puppy. Yes, Pam might be acquiring from a BYB, but I know in my heart that Pam will not breed this little girl..........she will be a great home, and this pup will be spayed and removed from the cycle. For that I can be happy.

This sums up exactly how I feel about the situation.

 

[Blue_Dog]

This whole this just sucks. :/

 

[4dogs3cats]

Clearly Foxy isn't undereducated. Clearly she's not just going to take the puppies to a shelter. Even if nobody bought them, it's not like she's gonna stop doing what she's doing.

Pam not buying this puppy isn't going to change Foxy's future actions. Not if Chaz didn't.

I'm happy for Pam, she deserves to be happy and get something she wants. She knows that the puppy is essentially the same as a byb puppy, yet NONE of us regret getting the byb puppies we did. I got Chance from a filthy backyard and spend 5 grand on him in the next week. But I did it because I love dogs and I love him.

Pam, I hope you enjoy her, she's a doll.

 

[-bogart-]

okay , only reason i am back in this thread is to point out the addition of the blog to foxy site. i have not posted there yet as i am at work and will post there when i get home.

/leaving this to die here.

 

[Island dog]

I just read the 2 nasty comments left on her blog. People who leave anonymous comments are cowards in my opinion. This has nothing to do with FW, it's how I feel about these actions in general.

 

[AGonzalez]

I went and read them too. I think the "asshole" comment was a bit uncalled for, but the other one was pretty well right on. I'm not posting anything there, I'm sure she's still reading this since her page changed so quickly after it got posted here, so she already knows what I think about it.

 

[-bogart-]

I just read the 2 nasty comments left on her blog. People who leave anonymous comments are cowards in my opinion. This has nothing to do with FW, it's how I feel about these actions in general.

i agree with the anonymous comment , i will leave my name when i post there. i get off work at 1800, then will be dealing with home stuff till later.

 

[~Tucker&Me~]

I would like to see the blog... Has the link been posted?

 

[AGonzalez]

Her website was posted on like page 16 by me and 17 by Fran...it's on there.

 

[Beanie]

I would like to see the blog... Has the link been posted?

Seven Seas - home
There you go.

 

[crazy_paws]

I went and read them too. I think the "asshole" comment was a bit uncalled for, but the other one was pretty well right on. I'm not posting anything there, I'm sure she's still reading this since her page changed so quickly after it got posted here, so she already knows what I think about it.

I agree. I don't see much point in posting there.

 

[sparks19]

Oy this has gotten SO out of control... now people are stalking her website and blog just to spout off? I think this is bordering on obsession for some people.

 

[Fran101]

Oy is right.. people are posting on her blog now?

She doesn't need our opinions thrown at her on her blog to know what we think... shes been on this forum a LONG time, I know she probably knows what we think of what she is doing.
and she is probably reading this thread.

and I think name calling and profanity is way over the line. its her life, she has made her choices and she knows what we think.. theres no need to sink to that 3rd grade level of calling the person you don't agree with a poopooface.

 

[Renee750il]

I am sincerely hoping that those posts are NOT from Chazzers, but are from some of the other forums. I would hope those here are capable of expressing themselves in a far more mature fashion.

 

[sparks19]

unfortunately it seems that's not the case. one chazzer has already planned her evening to go and post on the blog so I wouldn't be surprised if the other comments are also from here

 

[4dogs3cats]

Seriously. Obviously shes not gonna get a light bulb and apologize. She knows what she did and shes CLEARLY okay with it. Why torture yourselves?

Yeah she was a respected member, but she was also a face behind a computer screen that could say whatever she wanted to make people happy.

How is obsessing over her daily life going to make ANYONE feel better about themselves?

 

[Island dog]

This is just wrong. It's one thing to have an opinion and be able to state it on this forum, but that's where it should end. What good could possibly come from attacking her on her personal blog. The pups have homes and she doesn't appear to be returning to this forum. How much punishment should she be expected to take?

As someone who has struggled with depression, I know how difficult it can be to simply get up in the morning, to hate waking up, wishing I was dead. I do not want to inflict misery on another human who I have no idea what they are struggling with. FW has admitted to problems. She obviously is aware of the feelings members have towards her and has been punished by being removed as a mod. She might be hanging on by bare threads. Does anyone here want to be the one that pushes her over the edge? Let's let her live her life and deal with her baggage. She no doubt has enough to deal with.