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If that's what you think so be it ... what I posted is what I'm saying.
Im confused by your answer. Both of my dogs are soft dogs, a harsh voice is more then enough correction for them. The same goes for most of the dogs my dad has owned.

You seem to be inclined to hard dogs and defend Mr Richling's teachings, so what are you saying? You like dogs you have to smack around to submit to you? Does that make you feel better about yourself in some way?

Yes I know that was an underhanded question.
 

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Heavyjay I'd take baby steps with your dog. First getting him used to the car while it's parked and off. In and out, in and out. Lots of rewards (praise, treats... whatever). Then just short trips so he doesn't get nervous or sick. He may be afraid of the car because it makes him get sick so maybe ask your vet about giving him something before the trip to prevent that.
Sounds like a plan.
 

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My idea of firm is apparently different than you people are thinking. Sorry if you think I beat my dogs. If that's what you have to think of it all, so be it.

I do what works for the dog. Sara and Granduer are two of many past.

I've learned what works for me, so far.
 
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My idea of firm is apparently different than you people are thinking. Sorry if you think I beat my dogs. If that's what you have to think of it all, so be it.

I do what works for the dog. Sara and Granduer are two of many past.

I've learned what works for me, so far.
You havent led us to believe otherwise.

Do you still beat your child?
 

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I feel all dogs somewhere along the line wether it be house breaking, human aggression, dog aggression, beggin' at the table, growling at your best friend, about to kill the cat ... has expierenced a firm hand.
Wowza. Are you ever wrong. The only hand my dogs have experienced is one that pets them and gives them their food and treats and unconditional love and respect.

What I don't get is that some of you (general "you") are adamant that physical force is necessary to get a dog to do what you want it to. I wonder what kind of lives these very people lived in order to come to the conclusion that a firm hand, a yank on the leash, a collar that goes "bzzz" is okay and the way to go.

My beautiful Banzai came to us after going through a couple foster homes. The original people thought he was deaf and he surely had a firm hand. I'm sure they were frustrated when they said "sit" and he just sat there and stared at them. You can't expect a dog to know sit without teaching it what sit means. I'm sure they got upset and kicked and screamed and smacked him around when he peed in the house when he didn't know that is what the outside was for, because they hadn't taught him that going outside was the right thing to do.

Banzai has been here almost a year now. I can still raise my voice or make a quick movement and he slinks back to the time in which he was abused- all because the people were adamant that physical abuse was the way to make him do what they wanted.

My precious boy has NEVER, NEVER been a victim of abuse in this household. He can sit, he will come and do fancy tricks, he'll give you sniffles and he's 150% reliable off leash, even in the most dire of circumstances. He's a guard dog, he's the center of this family and he's the best all-around dog I've ever been around and all he did to get to this level of obedience was get praise and love and treats when he did what was desired.

So you tell me, in what kind of sick mind, this dog would need to be physically abused in order to be considered "obedient"? :mad:

 
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Again you havent led us to believe otherwise.
Yes I know I can be as underhanded as any liberal out there, or in this case a rupukelican.
 
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Because at a certain age a child learns why they are being spanked, it can even be explaned long after they did a misdeed. A dog dosent disern the difference.
 

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Innocent dogs... innocent children.... 2+2= 4......
Ok, I see where this is going. This isn't my kinda forum anymore. My child was subject to bash with RR and her cronies last year, I lost a cat and dog because of this BS with people like you, I'll be ****'d if my boy subject to that again. Moderator please delete my account and all photo's before my boy is wacking off a horse in the barn again.

You bastards are sick.
 

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Ok, I see where this is going. This isn't my kinda forum anymore. My child was subject to bash with RR and her cronies last year, I lost a cat and dog because of this BS with people like you, I'll be ****'d if my boy subject to that again. Moderator please delete my account and all photo's before my boy is wacking off a horse in the barn again.

You bastards are sick.
I have no idea what you are talking about, but there is no need for name calling. Feel free to enlighten me if you can do so in an appropriate manner.
 
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When talking about physical corrections I think many people are stuck on the idea that it means beating, hanging, helicoptering a dog, etc. A physical correction is also helping a dog into a sit or down in a physical way, doing handler awareness, or pushing your dog out of the way. If you touch them physically, then THAT is a physical correction. It doesn't have to be painful or evil or make the dog bleed. It is any time that you physically manipulate a dog.
 
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Good clarification, Sis :)

And gotta ask . . . MCato's talking about her kid "wacking off" a horse "AGAIN" and she thinks we're the sick ones? I can at least say that I'm one of the confused ones about that judgement ;) Or maybe she's just had a bad day at the compound . . .
 

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...because someone told a child about positive reinforcement, he went and whacked off a horse? There's so much more to this story that I don't even want to know where to begin.
 

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