Are PCs cooler than Macs?

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I don't know if all of them are refurbs or not. They're really good about answering questions, though. Definitely where my next one is coming from! I initially got the link from Mit. I've seen desktop Macs for less than $200.
 
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They are always the ones bashing PC's and we generally leave them alone.
This. I have members of my family, and friends, that think using a Mac makes them more intelligent. In reality they use Macs because they cant keep viruses off of their PCs and they have never even visited the really disgusting places on the intardnets. I used Windows for years visiting some of the nastiest interwebs, using a free antivirus and kept my machines "clean".

I dont think people who think they are superior for using Macs are the typical Mac user, they are the more vocal Mac user who buy into the hype. Like I said, I believe the typical Mac user are the ones that just want it to work.

Now if you are heavy into photo, video or music editing, run dont walk to the Mac Store. My friends who do any or all of those use Macs and I have to believe there is a reason. I dont know what it is but there has to be a reason for it, and if I needed to do any sort of heavy multi media editing that I couldnt find a FOSS solution for I would go Mac for that and use linux for everything else.

I prefer Windows over Mac OS, but I prefer Ubuntu Linux over Windows for the price and usability. I find Linux far easier to use then Windows, I can get farther into a Windows Domain with Linux then I could with any Windows Home Premium. 3 Windows Admins didnt like me tromping through their domains with Linux, but they wouldnt upgrade me to 7 Pro so they dealt with it because it was faster to let me use my laptop when I couldnt directly access the servers. By time I did get 7 Pro on my laptop my contract ended with the company I was helping support.

My desktops, laptop and server are far more customizable then ever since I stopped using Windows, and even more so then if I used OSX.

I even own an eMac. I just need to get it from my parents house and do a wipe and reload with Leopard, it wont support Snow Leopard. I need to play with it, break it, and fix it because I have to support it. I wont switch to Mac because of how locked down it is for customizing and (main reason) I dont know how to make it secure. Macs are very unsecure, the fact that they are 4% of the marketplace gives them relative security.

Even Puck, a Microsoft Guru, is a Mac user. I can only guess as to why, it just works and he knows how to secure it.

ETA: Puck may not be doing anything on the Mac that needs to be secured and has it isolated on his network. Thats what I plan on doing when I get my eMac home and online.
 

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People keep saying that my iMac is unsecure. How can I make it secure? (Bear in mind that I operate on the "Push this button" level.) I'm really open to, nay EAGER FOR suggestions!

Oh, and if someone could suggest a way to get rid of that stupid color wheel that keeps freezing my machine, I'd be eternally grateful. I'm out of warranty and cannot extend my (now expired) warranty. It's a real pain to lug the blasted thing into the Apple store for one of their 14 year old "geniuses" to diagnose and fix. Especially when they don't.
 

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I think its a case of "a few bad apples ruin the batch"

There are a few macbook owners who are DOUCHEBAGS (pardon my french) who think that Macs are the only thing in the world and PCers are stupid.

There are PC owners who are DOUCHEBAGS who think that mac owners are "stupid people who spend all that money blablablabla"

IMO a douche is a douche regardless of what he is surfing the internet with.
To be fair that is how apple marked their products for the longest time. That apple products were cooler and better and that PCs were out dated and uncool. Just think back to the 'Hi I'm a PC and I'm a Mac' commercials and what they were trying to get people to buy into......
 
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People keep saying that my iMac is unsecure. How can I make it secure? (Bear in mind that I operate on the "Push this button" level.) I'm really open to, nay EAGER FOR suggestions!
Im honestly hoping Mit or BP will see this thread and tell us. What I do know is that Macs 4% market share makes them relatively safe compared to Windows machines. BP and I didnt get along but I would put the animosity aside for that knowledge willingly.

I have to support Macs and would like to know when the need arises.

Im not sure if my eMac is using OS9 or X but it took 4 steps to add an admin account and get into it.

I dont know what exploits the Pwn2own competitors used to hack the Macs but I would love too know.
 
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That's all good to know. If/when anybody finds stuff out please post it here. If I use that Macbook Pro as a business computer, I'd feel a lot better knowing it's as secure as possible.

Doing a quick google search, some folks suggested making a user account with no admin privileges that you use exclusively, except for admin stuff. That way if someone hacks into the account you're using they shouldn't be able to screw with too much. Way more basic than what you're looking for Blue, but maybe helpful to someone like MPP???
 
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Since nobody at the shop I used to work at knew Macs, we didnt know there was a easier way to do it.

A client wanted his iTunes transferred from his eMac to his new Windows box. So we copied his iTunes to an external HD and used my Linux laptop to convert it to NTFS and put it on the new Windows box. Im pretty sure thats how we did it, I only know for sure we used my laptop to make the transfer.

According to my Mac literate friend a simple ethernet cable would have done the trick for the transfer .

The client was going to throw the eMac in the nearest dumpster so I decided to give it a good home, or give it away. I hate wasting working computers.
 

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Yeah, we're still trying to figure out the whole PC/Mac compatibility thing, since I use a desktop at home.

So far we haven't had a problem transferring image and sound files from one to the other with a regular USB flash drive. He bought an external hard drive though, and it has to be reformatted to work with the Mac because its default is NTFS. So, I'm guessing it won't work with the PC after that. Which is a shame, cause the friggin thing is a whole terabyte.
 
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Doing a quick google search, some folks suggested making a user account with no admin privileges that you use exclusively, except for admin stuff. That way if someone hacks into the account you're using they shouldn't be able to screw with too much. Way more basic than what you're looking for Blue, but maybe helpful to someone like MPP???
Thats good advice regardless of the OS, even Linux. If someone has the UN and PW of a Admin or Root account the system is compromised. If somebody with enough knowledge has physical access of your machine they can have all of your data unless its encrypted. In Romy's case I would consider everything on that laptop as public knowledge unless it was encrypted.
 
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Yeah, we're still trying to figure out the whole PC/Mac compatibility thing, since I use a desktop at home.

So far we haven't had a problem transferring image and sound files from one to the other with a regular USB flash drive. He bought an external hard drive though, and it has to be reformatted to work with the Mac because its default is NTFS. So, I'm guessing it won't work with the PC after that. Which is a shame, cause the friggin thing is a whole terabyte.
My Mac buddy expert tells me all you need to do is connect the Mac to a Windows box to transfer the files using an ethernet cable. I can do it PC to Linux, but Linux is easier for me then Windows and Mac OS. I may be missing something super simple with the Mac OSX.

ETA: I believe there is a NTFS (sorry for the dyslexia) software for Macs. So if the data is on a NFTS drive the Mac will be able to read it.
 

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I looooooove my Macbook. I have an aluminum one from about 2 years ago. I'm a graphic designer so Macs are popular in my field. When I was interviewing for a job last year, I brought in the Macbook to show my portfolio on (I do mainly web and multimedia...so it doesn't really make sense for me to have a physical portfolio). Corny as it sounds, the computer made a good impression in interviews for my particular field.

I am planning on buying an inexpensive PC with a massive hard drive soon though. I want to store all my music and videos on it and then stream them to the TV (through our Playstation 3), laptop, etc. I was thinking about doing a network attached server instead of a PC, but I feel like the PC would be easier to set up. Plus I'd be able to play Lord of the Rings Online on it. :D
 

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Wow. We have a Mac and several PC's in our house. I don't notice much difference in them at all. In fact, right now the Mac can be a little slower then my huge old pc.

I don't get the controversy
 
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I had to deal with an Airport today that would not configure to a PPPoE connection. The guy had a PC so I have no idea why he had a Mac Airport. Bypassed the Airport and BAM he was on the internet.

Mac dumbs down everything to the point it isnt even remotely intuitive. Even Mac Geniuses have a hard time configuring their own gear.

Mac is a status symbol to many, my family included. For many more Macs just work.

Ild like to kick Steve Jobs in the junk.
 

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I had to deal with an Airport today that would not configure to a PPPoE connection. The guy had a PC so I have no idea why he had a Mac Airport. Bypassed the Airport and BAM he was on the internet.

Mac dumbs down everything to the point it isnt even remotely intuitive. Even Mac Geniuses have a hard time configuring their own gear.Mac is a status symbol to many, my family included. For many more Macs just work.

Ild like to kick Steve Jobs in the junk.
Since I'm so computer challenged anyhow, no matter how smart a computer is, what do you mean by Macs dumbing down? Can you give some examples in the most simplistic way? I always heard they were so great and user friendly. My sister LOVES hers. But she's definitely one of those status symbol types...in the biggest way. She and I are 180 degrees opposite that way. Maybe she doesn't even know why she loves hers really. :rolleyes:
 

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You DO all know what PC stands for right?

Personal Computer.

Ergo, all computers that you own are PC's. Computers in a computer lab in the library or in a school are, by definition, not PC's, regardless of what they run.

Macs are PC's. Computers that run Windows are PC's. Computers that run Linux are PC's. Or they could all not be PC's, depending on their usage.
THANK YOU, I was scrolling through this thread to see if anyone said it before me. :rofl1:

I would love a Macintosh PC if it weren't $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

As a graphics professional, Mac is the standard I was educated on, and while theoretically it's not better for graphics anymore, I prefer the interface for working with, say, multiple Adobe programs. But SAI also runs weird on Mac, so I guess it's out.

I currently run a combo of Windows 7 and Linux on my PCs and I like both for different reasons. Honestly, a lot of the times a computer gets viruses and such can be avoided by thinking for a moment before clicking links and downloading software. (and yes, I'm guilty of this too.)

Plus, Mac needs to stop being so inclusive. Open source is the future.
 

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