Who says you can't protest a puppy store.

[Lolas Dad]

The link below has all the pet store protests listed. View the monthly calendar.

Peaceful Protests... Protesting Stores That Sell Puppies...

Puppy Mill Store Protest 11/28


Hope it goes well and gets a lot of media attention. Great time of the year also

Puppy Mill Store Protest 11/28 (Upper West Side)
Date: 2009-11-22, 7:23PM EST
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Protest the sale of puppies that come from puppy mills at Pet Fashions located on 565 Columbus Avenue (between 87th and 88th on the East side of Columbus) on Saturday, November 28 from 1-3 PM. Make your feelings known along with many people who live on the Upper West Side. There will be media attention at the protest and the more people that turn out to help protest, the more likely we will be to accomplish something.

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[Crush]

Puppy Mill Store Protest 11/28

Hope it goes well and gets a lot of media attention. Great time of the year also

Thanks for underlining my point of mainstream dog owners vs. extreme viewpoints.

Protesting a pet store selling puppies is an extremist viewpoint and shame on you for disrupting someones business and someones employment.

 

[jess2416]

Thanks for underlining my point of mainstream dog owners vs. extreme viewpoints.

Protesting a pet store selling puppies is an extremist viewpoint and shame on you for disrupting someones business and someones employment.

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[Amber]

Um..

Anyway
Regarding the main topic, I have seen lots of protests at the local Petland. I wish I could go to this one..but I'll just prayers for positive results defeating puppy mills.

 

[corgipower]

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[MandyPug]

There aren't very many protests in my area against pet stores selling animals, but there are ALOT of people that boycott places like petland. They shop at my store. I have also steered alot of people away from a new pet store that opened up right across the street from us simply by mentioning they sell puppies. People are thankfully starting to see the reality of puppy mills and bybs and pet stores that sell these dogs, it's a real breath of fresh air.

Then i get calls from people asking me if we have Chihuahuas in stock and then asking when our next shipment would be coming in. I gave her some education on the phone, but it likely fell on deaf ears...

 

[jess2416]

 

[Lolas Dad]

Thanks for underlining my point of mainstream dog owners vs. extreme viewpoints.

Protesting a pet store selling puppies is an extremist viewpoint and shame on you for disrupting someones business and someones employment.

I did not say I was going. If I lived in NYC I would. I would not say voicing your opinion in a peaceful manner is extremist. But we are entitled to our different points of view.

As I said in an earlier post there are people that get involved and their are people that don't want to get involved and sit on the side lines and do nothing but wish those that protest would just shut up and go home.

As for employment people choose where they want to work. They do not have to choose to work at a puppy store if they do not want to.

As for the person who is in the business of selling puppy mill puppies they chose to go into that business also so if their business is disrupted for a few hours that's their own fault for being in the business they are in.

If it educates people about puppy mills I see nothing wrong with that. Education never hurts anyone.

 

[PoodleMommy]

this is very close to where I live and let me tell you these things accomplish nothing around here.

I just had to wade through a huge protest like this to get into Amish Market (a grocery store) the other day...

it is much better if people are educated and dont frequent these places in order to try and affect change.

 

[Lolas Dad]

The only way some people get educated about puppy mills is when they are looking to buy a puppy from a pet store. Then you have some of those that think by buying at a pet store is rescuing the dog. Those people will hopefully get educated that day also.

 

[elegy]

huh. i never really considered objecting to the mass production of pups for bucks with little to no care or concern for their health or future wellbeing beyond point of sale to be all that edgy, but hey what do i know? i own two pit bulls and a border collie. i probably couldn't even locate "mainstream" with a telescope.

as for protests accomplishing nothing, imo if they raise the awareness of one person or change the mind of a single potential puppy-buyer, they're worthwhile.

 

[Crush]

My puppy is from a backyard breeder.

The horrible, horrible conditions of being with his two dog parents and dog brothers and sisters. As well as two human children.

Awful conditions.

All the maltese, poodles in my cross are CKC registered. But the CKC (ACK in USA) will not recognise my dog. :doh:

I mean.. they shouldn't recognize my dog. The point is, the HEALTH LINES are from ACK CKC so where does it matter where he was born. These are genetics.

Ah yes.. so again we have the enthusiest 'elitism' problem where they don't want anyone selling dogs except a few important people.

I got my dog for a great price at $375. He's not a show dog by any means, but hey, he has CKC lines and didn't cost 3 times as much. So the issues is the fact that you don't want mainstream people to buy puppies. It's not really about the health of a dog, is it.

And how can a puppy mill be cruel, and a rescue not be cruel. I just don't get it. It's illogical.

What's cruel is having a dog chained in the backyard because he barks indoors all day due to the fact that the owner decided to get a Husky becuase he was led down the wrong path by certain dog enthusiests regarding the energy requirements for the dog (true story).

 

[Laurelin]

I had you on block as soon as I saw you were on chaz but I got curious... big mistake. I was going to type out something but I'll just say... here we go again and join those with the popcorn.

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[corgipower]

Ah yes.. so again we have the enthusiest 'elitism' problem where they don't want anyone selling dogs except a few important people.

I got my dog for a great price at $375. He's not a show dog by any means, but hey, he has CKC lines and didn't cost 3 times as much. So the issues is the fact that you don't want mainstream people to buy puppies. It's not really about the health of a dog, is it.

No. It is about the health of the dog. If it's elitist to want breeders to health test and temperament test and only breed dogs that are physically and mentally healthy, if it's elitist to want breeders to remain part of a lifelong support system for the owner of what they produced, if it's elitist to believe that dog's shouldn't be bred just to make money or simply for the fun of watching puppies be born, then I'm happy to be an elitist.

And how can a puppy mill be cruel, and a rescue not be cruel. I just don't get it. It's illogical.

A rescue isn't mass producing dogs. A rescue isn't housing dogs in horrid conditions and then throwing them away when they cease to make money.

 

[Snark]

Puppy mills are a bit different from a backyard breeder - unless your backyard breeder has crates stacked on crates stacked on crates of dogs who do nothing but make more dogs...
No one ever said 'mainstream' people (so I'm a creek branch??) couldn't buy puppies - just that they should:
a) educate themselves on the breed they're thinking about (something the guy with the husky obviously didn't do - and if he blames the breed enthusiasts for misleading him, I'd hate to see what he pays for a new car... most websites are pretty up front about the breed's characteristics) and...
b) educate themselves about dogs who are mass-produced with no regard for health, mental or physical. (A neighbor bought a pet store puppy - he died from genetic health problems two years later...)
Don't quite follow your thinking on rescues and puppy mills both being cruel - where do you think the dogs are being rescued from?

Edited to add: Dang, is this a troll? Only been checking in, rather than posting lately - now I know why... Pass the popcorn, please...

 

[Crush]

b) educate themselves about dogs who are mass-produced with no regard for health, mental or physical. (A neighbor bought a pet store puppy - he died from genetic health problems two years later...)...

Are you trying to suggest that AKC registered breeders will breed dogs without those defects??

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And lets not forget....

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[Lolas Dad]

My puppy is from a backyard breeder.

You seem proud of that fact. I just hope for your dog's sake he doesn't show up with any genetic health issues in the years to come.

I mean.. they shouldn't recognize my dog. The point is, the HEALTH LINES are from ACK CKC so where does it matter where he was born. These are genetics.

A puppy mill dog can be AKC registered. AKC (USA) does not require a breeding pair to be tested to be registered. An AKC registration just means the dog is a pure breed. So that's a little education for you.

I got my dog for a great price at $375. He's not a show dog by any means, but hey, he has CKC lines and didn't cost 3 times as much. So the issues is the fact that you don't want mainstream people to buy puppies. It's not really about the health of a dog, is it.

Good for you, you saved some money. Now if the dog winds up with health issues because of genetics then you will be paying a lot more. I got my dog for free. Not show quality either in her looks but her personality is show quality.

And how can a puppy mill be cruel, and a rescue not be cruel. I just don't get it. It's illogical.

My guess is you have never even seen what a puppy mill is. Now that to me is illogical.

What's cruel is having a dog chained in the backyard because he barks indoors all day due to the fact that the owner decided to get a Husky becuase he was led down the wrong path by certain dog enthusiests regarding the energy requirements for the dog (true story).

Apparently he doesn't know how to train his dog. Since your full of information how come you haven't helped him out?.

My dog used to bark a lot inside when I first got her also but I trained her not to bark inside. She doesn't even bark when someone is knocking at the door. I did the training and she is now an AKC CGC dog as well as a therapy dog.

 

[corgipower]

Edited to add: Dang, is this a troll? Only been checking in, rather than posting lately - now I know why... Pass the popcorn, please...

Are you trying to suggest that AKC registered breeders will breed dogs without those defects??

Nowhere did Snark say anything about "AKC registered breeders". Most of us here believe that AKC does not = healthy. Nor does it = unhealthy. AKC, CKC, UKC, and the whole plethora of other registries are just that -- a registry and their papers signify nothing more than an official stamp telling you who the dog's parents are. (With the exception of a few breed specific registries.)

 

[Dekka]

Thanks for underlining my point of mainstream dog owners vs. extreme viewpoints.

Protesting a pet store selling puppies is an extremist viewpoint and shame on you for disrupting someones business and someones employment.

So you are fine with puppymill dogs? You are ok with what goes on in pet stores?

See most people are merely ignorant. When they learn what goes on they are shocked and horrified and never shop in a PJ's again.

You sir, are the first person I have met who says "ya so puppies die, don't get vet care, parents live in tiny cages and suffer horribly... so what?"

And you think WE are the ones with the unusual and extreme view? I think perhaps you need to get out more.

 

[Dekka]

Are you trying to suggest that AKC registered breeders will breed dogs without those defects??

:lol-sign:

And lets not forget....

:rofl1:

Ok you really are funny. YOu think buying a skeezily bred dog with no health testing is a thing to be proud of (well there are people who are proud of ignorance in other things..) But by this post show you really have missed the boat on what makes an ethical breeder.