What color would this be?

[AdrianneIsabel]

Pardon the lack of clarity, these are phone photos taken during an overcast sunrise.

This is Kona. Kona is a "whoops" breeding between a brother and a sister. The brother and sister were litter mates from a purposeful breeding of Dutch Shepherd and American bulldog. Kona is about 1 year now I believe. The entire oops litter plus mom and dad have since been neutered. The other pups I have seen from this litter are solid brindle and brindle with flashing on the chest and toes.

My question is is it possible for brindle to have a white overlay? I see some distinctive striping under the white which it is hard for my camera to detect. He also isn't exactly environmentally sound and keeps looking for his momma so I couldn't easily pose him and move around him taking photos. LOL

Just because he's cute

Would you still consider this a roan or ticked coat, could you get that from this type of cross?

Thanks for your input.

 

[ravennr]

That is crazy looking! i'm interested to know what you'd call this as well.

He is very very cute though. What a sweet face.

 

[Linds]

You know, Kaylee is colored like him to a point. His is more distinct but she has the same....like you put it, brindle with a white overlay. Kaylee's eyeliner is brindle, along with her ears and butt patch.

I've always said Kaylee is a white dirty brindle.

 

[MicksMom]

It may not be an "official" color, but I'd call it a brindle headed blue ticked.

 

[HayleyMarie]

No idea what color he is, but what a cool mix even if he is inbred.

 

[Kat09Tails]

IMO he's a ticked brindle dog.

He's not a bad looking dog though I'm not sure why anyone would mix an ambull and a dutch on purpose.

 

[Saeleofu]

I say ticked brindle, and shave him to see what he looks like underneath :rofl1:

 

[Shai]

Yeah from my limited understanding of color genetics I'd say he's a black brindle dog who's a color-headed white with ticking (essentially the coloration of an ACD but with brindle). Ticking's supposed to show up in the color the coat would have been if the white wasn't overlaid, so if you see striping that would make sense.

 

[pitbullpony]

Brindle piebald with ticking.

Ambull X Dutch shepherd is becoming a pretty popular cross for working dogs.

 

[Laurelin]

Yep . Extreme parti (CHW) colored dog that is brindle and ticked. I would think that would be totally possible from that cross. Roaning is just heavy ticking so I think you call it either way.

Summer in real life tends to look white with a weird brown undertone. It totally doesn't pick up in pictures but when you get her wet she's all spotty.

 

[~WelshStump~]

I had a dog like that, parents were a Border collie of traditional color (Black with white markings), and sire was a GSD also of traditional color (saddle patterned black/tan), and she came out a Color-headed-white of Tri color, with ticking. Here's a pic (although you can't really see the ticking in this photo):

I'd say the same thing happened here, this pup inherited the factor for CHW, and ticking (actually looks like the roan on spaniels to me), with the base color being brindle. The white factor overlays almost everything, except the ticking which only shows through white.

 

[AdrianneIsabel]

Thanks all, this has been very interesting!

 

[CharlieDog]

Crazy how a BC/GSD cross produced a CHW Collie, lol. That's exactly what that dog looks like though!

 

[Saeleofu]

Crazy how a BC/GSD cross produced a CHW Collie, lol. That's exactly what that dog looks like though!

I was thinking the same thing! :rofl1: If I had seen that dog in a rescue with no knowledge of where it came from I'd call it a rough collie mix or a BYB rough collie. Gorgeous dog, I really like the CHWs.

 

[Paige]

Funky colouring!

 

[~WelshStump~]

Crazy how a BC/GSD cross produced a CHW Collie, lol. That's exactly what that dog looks like though!

I was thinking the same thing! :rofl1: If I had seen that dog in a rescue with no knowledge of where it came from I'd call it a rough collie mix or a BYB rough collie. Gorgeous dog, I really like the CHWs.

Yeah, I have a friend who has had Collies for years that I can not convince her Maddy was a Mix.

She came from a local family, my parents found an add in the paper for "Free 6 month old Collie Shepherd mix puppies" (my father had a Rough Collie German Shepherd mix as a child), the family that had them always buys their animals in twos, so they had gotten a Border collie bitch and a GSD male, their names where... Jack & Jill.

Anyway, I don't remember much about the Dam or other puppies, other than the one I wanted was a CHW sable, but it was a male and my parents insisted on a female. Probably the oldest thing I can remember ever, was looking out the car window and driving away as the family waved good-bye with "dad" standing proudly in the middle. Maddy made it to 16 1/2, her dam lived to 15 I believe it was, and they said died of a heart attack while swimming in her favorite pond. Some days, I just have to wonder if her siblings were as much loved family companions as she was.

ETA: Most all the pictures I have of her are prints or on another computer, but here are a few I scanned and posted elsewhere some time ago: