Unchain the dogs of New York State!

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When I had to move from 8 wooded acres in the country into my daughter's home with no fenced in area I had no choice but to " tether " . Bubba was fine as he never left my side , but my I.B. had a brain tumor and seizures . I had to set up a ground tie with chain to back door to let her out at all hours of the night as it was winter and I couldn't just take her out . To me there's a big difference between chaining out and tethering for short periods. One of my near neighbors has a beautiful untrained Rottie . He has 2 areas of chain , but he's never out when the family is working or for long times . It's just unfortunate that they don't have a fence .
 
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I think another question that needs to be asked is: Should the owner have access to many different means to keep his/her dog confined? Is there a one-size-fits-all answer when it comes to keeping your dog responsibly contained, and if so, what is it? Is there a limit to the number of hours a dog can spend outside, and if so, does that mean that all dogs must be confined indoors during a normal work day? Is it more cruel to tether a dog when you leave for work than it is, say, to put them in a crate?

(Okay, so that was a series of questions.)
 

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LOL Lilavati.

OH! I forgot for the diggers.. 15' of solid concrete at least 8 inches thick below.

Woo, this fence may cost more than my house!
 

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LOL Lilavati.

OH! I forgot for the diggers.. 15' of solid concrete at least 8 inches thick below.

Woo, this fence may cost more than my house!
You forgot the jumpers, who will be unaffected by the hotwire as they clear the 15 foot wall in a single bound.

You need a roof on that thing.

Hey, wait a minute, now it's not outdoors anymore.
:p
 

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In all honestly if Baha hadn't talked about it so much I think I would have been able to sit around and not examine those questions more closely.
Kudos to Baha for getting you to think from another perspective and even more kudos to you for doing so.
 

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So a happy, healthy, well-fed, socialized dog is considered neglected because of a chain? :confused:

If this is what an ACO defines as neglect, it frightens me.

I guess.....




If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times. Chains, nor kennels, nor fences, nor leashes, nor collars, nor any other inanimate object have the ability to abuse an animal. ONLY humans hold that card in their hands. And those who abuse and neglect animals on a chain will do so whether that dog is running loose in a fenced in yard, confined in a kennel, or even loose in their own home. One object on it's own accord is not capable of turning a kind, repsponsible owner into a cold-hearted asshole who enjoys seeing animals suffer.
 
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In homes with multiple Pit Bulls, it would frequently be more cruel to let the dogs off the chain. In fact, it would be felony cruel, if you know what I mean. So I agree with the pseudo-BSL statement.
 

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For anyone who has followed this thread (now the MOST VIEWED thread on this forum section!!!), thank you for your support and please make sure to keep supporting humane legislative issues (anti-chaining) for our nation's dogs in 2008. A 2007 summary by the American Veterinary Medical Association can be found on another thread: http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showpost.php?p=966320&postcount=2 or off-site: http://www.avma.org/advocacy/state/issues/sr_tethering_prohibitions.asp

I've now requested this thread be closed, due to so much off-topic aggression toward individual posters.
 

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The problem Chanda is the phrase "Sensible Regulating" does not exist. It may start out sensible.........but it NEVER ends up that way.
 
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I guess.....




If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times. Chains, nor kennels, nor fences, nor leashes, nor collars, nor any other inanimate object have the ability to abuse an animal. ONLY humans hold that card in their hands. And those who abuse and neglect animals on a chain will do so whether that dog is running loose in a fenced in yard, confined in a kennel, or even loose in their own home. One object on it's own accord is not capable of turning a kind, repsponsible owner into a cold-hearted asshole who enjoys seeing animals suffer.
Got that, Mia . . . especially those of us who know you and the lengths to which you will go to ensure your dogs' health and happiness.
 
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Actually I think this thread should remain unlocked. I personally do not and nor have I ever "chained" my dogs on my property, however, I support owners who do for these reasons among others:

1. Neglectful owners will neglect animals regardless of how they are confined. At least if we can see them on a chain, any ill or injured animals can be reported. I actually had an experience where we rescued a chained Siberian from starvation. Unfortunately we missed the 20 or so cats locked in the basement until the tenant moved out. By then we were only able to recover about 8. The rest were dead and being consumed by the living animals.
2. There are many different circumstances under which a dog may be chained. For example, my late aunt used to chain her chihuahua mix on her porch for a few hours a day so that he could enjoy the outdoors. He was a biter and could not otherwise be kept in the backyard, so chaining responsibly prevented bites and his accidental death on her busy road.
3. Sled dogs on chains may actually self-exercise more than kenneled dogs and seem to interact better with their environments. Kenneled dogs have an obstructed view. In addition, some kenneled dogs can become fence fighters and may require solid barriers between kennels further reducing social interaction and visual stimulation.
4. A dog on a 5 foot chain who freely exercises himself in a circular pattern actually has an 11 foot diameter usable space (allowing for the width of the dog to be 6 inches). This is more unrestricted space than a 10 x 10 foot kennel which contains corners that a dog can't easily get his body into.
5. Unchained, unkenneled dogs are at risk of breeding, fighting, escaping, chasing livestock, harassing neighbors, disease, physical harm, theft, etc.
6. Responsible owners should have the right to determine the method of restraint that is the most appropriate and humane for their individual situation.
 

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