Unchain the dogs of New York State!

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I have a question for the people who talk about how their dogs can get out of fencing. If you take your dog outside, play some rousing games, and then bring them back in, do they have the time or inclination to get out? If a dog doesn't have a chance to get bored, they probably wouldn't have a chance to get out, would they?

Of course, I have heard of dogs that want to get out as soon as you let them outside, but they were rescue dogs who didn't yet know that they were "home".


True escape artists don't get out because they are bored, they get out because they "can". I have a working golden who is hunted, given tons of affection, and will escape out of a fence just because it's there. My old girl used to do the same thing, just to be on the other side.
 

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True escape artists don't get out because they are bored, they get out because they "can". I have a working golden who is hunted, given tons of affection, and will escape out of a fence just because it's there. My old girl used to do the same thing, just to be on the other side.
Agreed. We had one hound who was a true escape artist when I was a teenager. Admittedly, he was un-neutered, because he was one of Dad's stud dogs. But that hound could get out of ANYTHING. And he did it even if no bitches were in heat. He just liked to get out. He never went far . . . he'd just escape, trot around the kennels and then up to the house to steal cat food. And, tail wagging, let my parents catch him. Since there were 50 or so other hounds at the time not trying to escape, I think we can assume that the problem lay with good old Major. He was the cause for endless enhancements to the kennels. He should have been called Houdini. If you've ever had to deal with a true escape artist, you'd understand why some people feel they have to chain. And depending on their life situation, that may be the only option.

I've known a few other escape artists (none of them ours, thank god). Some of them WERE bored. But some of them either really, really enjoyed running loose . . . or enjoyed the challange of getting out. It didn't matter how tired they were, given the chance, they were over/under/through the fence and gone.

And once a dog becomes an escape artist, they stay one. So, if you adopt one, then however they came to be that way, you'll be dealing with it. Fortunately, Sarama is not one, and despite the fact she could dig out of our yard, she's shown no interest in doing so. <crosses fingers>

Now, most of these dogs come home . . . they are escape artists, not runaways . . . but something horrible can happen while they are out . . . and if you have leash laws, you'd been in violation if they escaped.
 
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What, Baha? You mean you disagree with the "we can fix everything if we make it all illegal" sort of fascist mentality? ;)
Only if I can have a week behind the reins. I have a few changes I'd like to make. I'd like to illegalize stupidity. Penalty is death, or at least a good thump on the head.
 

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>>>Hands Baha a Baseball Bat<<<<<

OK Baha, you go looking for the Narrow Minded and I'll seek out those with Tunnel Vision. Between the two of us we should be able to get a good start!

After we're done with those, there are always the Refuse To See Any Other Side types....and don't forget the Nanny Knows Best breed.

People who push for legislation such as this have either not thought about or don't care about what the repercussions may be for others. All they know is that it will make them feel good about themselves.

One thing I have noticed about DDB (beyond the PETA/ALF connection) is that they also want to ban the kenneling/penning of dogs as well. So, where does that leave many owners? Out of options, that's where.

Dogs will suffer if this passes, mark my words. They will be surrendered, abandoned or set free. They will be stuck in crates instead of being able to enjoy living naturally.

You will no longer be able to see the abuse as it's forced inside the home, but they will fell better because they won't have to view it.

But they know what's best for dogs eh, just ask them, they speak canine ya know!
 

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Save a dog! Boycott extremists like ALF and PETA, and those affiliated with them, like DDB!
The list of those affiliated with PETA is quite surprising.

Let's not forget that HSUS and ASPCA are virtually interchangable with PETA, with some of the same people heavily involved in all three organizations.
 

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Well lets see. We share a driveway so we cannot fence off our yard. So we have a tether run outside for when we let our dogs outside. Usually when we know our neighbors are outside. So they go outside one at time tied up and spend some time outside. When its all clear they are loose.

But "OH NO! She ties up her dogs!!! She doesent deserve them!!!" there I beat you all to it lmao.
 

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But "OH NO! She ties up her dogs!!! She doesent deserve them!!!" there I beat you all to it lmao.
^^ Hehehehehehehe!

When Phoebe first came to live with us from the Humane society, she was quite an escape artist.

We have a 6ft wood privacy fence, a small kennel (about 5x8 give or take) and she would litterally CHEW the wood on the kennel door enough for her to push & squeeze through, and then DIG under the privacy fence...........all in a matter of about 1 hour of us being gone to shop. This happened more than once...........Kevin would repair and reinforce the door, then she would work it again, LOL

We did not want to replace the wood on the kennel door with a metal one for fear she would bust out all her teeth still trying to chew it.

So we CHAINED her INSIDE her kennel INSIDE the locked privacy fence until she was trained better.

Now she won't leave the property, even if the gate is wide open unless we give permission or go with her.

The way I see it the chain was a training tool, it let her know what we expected and gave her a chance to mature.
 
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Yikes Pixie, i'm right there with ya! Someone better come take my dogs and call me irresponsible too!...doesn't this dog look so neglected! :p


[Also note...the chain she was on in this picture was only temporary..she broke through it like it was nothing so now we use a larger one...*gasp* :yikes:.. my poor neglected dog :rolleyes:]


I have a chain setup in my backyard which my girls DO spend some time on during the day..am I irresponsible? I don't think so. I'm just doing what is BEST for my dogs. I want to keep them safe. Anti-tethering laws only punish responsible owners like myself, miakoda, Pixie and the others who are only keeping their dogs safety in mind. I agree with Bahamutt, lets illegalize stupidity...
 
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Ya know . . . the thing we've all overlooked is what this is really about.

It's not about curbing "cruelty." Not at all. It's a backdoor BSL law. It's all about being able to step in and confiscate dogs.
 
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...When there is nothing actually wrong. Its all about appearances. If someone fits the stereotype, then they must be doing the crime. Kind of like driving around with a cracked windshield tips cops off that there's probably something illegal doing on, so they should pull you over.
 

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...When there is nothing actually wrong. Its all about appearances. If someone fits the stereotype, then they must be doing the crime. Kind of like driving around with a cracked windshield tips cops off that there's probably something illegal doing on, so they should pull you over.
Oh, I know what you mean. Hubby's show truck had a custom paint job and the big chrome wheels. When we went through small towns while traveling, you can't believe how many times local law enforcement followed us through town, waiting for us to do something bad. :rolleyes:
 

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...When there is nothing actually wrong. Its all about appearances. If someone fits the stereotype, then they must be doing the crime. Kind of like driving around with a cracked windshield tips cops off that there's probably something illegal doing on, so they should pull you over.
i guess i better get my windshield fixed

:cool:
 

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Ya know . . . the thing we've all overlooked is what this is really about.

It's not about curbing "cruelty." Not at all. It's a backdoor BSL law. It's all about being able to step in and confiscate dogs.
not all of us overlooked that ;)
Anti-tethering is yet another way for the AR movement to take away our dogs
 

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