Unchain the dogs of New York State!

Picklepaige

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Nothing wrong with chains, as long as used right. I would never use them again, as my husky was stolen while she was out on one. Too risky, for me.
 
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That's awesome!! :hail:

We're up to 372 petitions this morning. Let's keep spreading the word!

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Let me see if I can help with those numbers, and your right... I'm going to spread the word :lol-sign:

You see I own 11 dogs that are very well taken care of, they have water, shelter, food, and most of all LOVE daily, so you see your trying to take my right from me to own these dogs and I will never let that happen so keep your eye on the numbers.

You see I help fight laws such as this all over the world not just in my state/county :mad:

And for your info this is the way the law reads in my county...

(2) Restrained upon the owner's property by a substantial chain, cable, rope, or other device from which it cannot escape so as to not reach any adjoining property or public right-of-way; or
(3) Restrained on a leash and accompanied by the owner or other responsible person.

And this is the way it should be :rolleyes:
 

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Hey...banning plastic bags is an excellent idea...countries in Europe that have done that are having positive results..more people are using those reusable cloth bags...I see nothing wrong with that...

I'm not sure if anyone has seen this documentary on the plastic bag, but if you do, I can guarantee you'll actually stop using/asking for plastic bags at your grocery store...

http://www.cbc.ca/doczone/battleofthebag/video.html

lol a little off topic, but someone mentioned it in the post earlier...so I thought I would just comment
 

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Having worked as a cruelty investigator in the past, I can say that I have witnessed dogs being 'contained' in rooms, basements, and most of all, crates, in the most horrid conditions possible..without food, water, attention...cold basement, barely any room to move....yes, it might keep the dog away from rain and snow, but if I'm surveying a backyard and see a dog chained in bad conditions, I'm more likely to spot and take that dog away from the owner than if that dog is sitting in a crate for 10 hours a day and nobody reports it...

I agree that abuse comes in different forms...banning chaining won't solve the problem of irresponsible ownership, even though there are alot of people who abuse that priveledge...indeed

BUT....banning idiots will definately solve the problem...animal cruelty/neglect laws really need to be strengthened...this is one of the biggest problems right now..the **** laws and the enforcement of those laws...governments/enforcement officers need to get their ass into gear!
 

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Gamedogs, your babies look VERY well cared for and beautiful :)

Any person on this board with the ability to actually read and understand the written word understands that it isn't the chain causing ANY issues for dogs........it is of course the neglect involved.

This has been said repeatedly to Summitview, and she refuses to acknowledge this fact (probably due to attorney advice :rolleyes:)

It doesn't matter how many well cared for dogs are posted here (even though I like seeing them) it will NOT change her mind.

Her mind is made up...........PLEASE do not try to confuse her with facts. ;)
 

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This has been said repeatedly to Summitview, and she refuses to acknowledge this fact (probably due to attorney advice :rolleyes:)

It doesn't matter how many well cared for dogs are posted here (even though I like seeing them) it will NOT change her mind.

Her mind is made up...........PLEASE do not try to confuse her with facts. ;)
That is very typical of ARists. And it is one of the things about them that scares me the most.
 

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Well, if they have no bread...let them eat cake...


Not everyone is so lucky as to be able to afford THOUSANDS of dollars in installing a fence. Not everyone LIVES where fences are allowed. Not everyone lives where they OWN property to fence it.
So unless you are wealthy, own your own land, and live in the country where there are no restrictions, you shouldn't own a dog?
Of course, don't you know? ;)

Summit, we all have our own ideals for what a dog's life should be like, but that doesn't mean everyone sees it the same way. So while I'd love it if all dogs had acreage to run on, thousands of dollars worth of fencing, could live inside all the time, were fed the absolute best food, had a million toys, etc, it's just not realistic. Obviously before getting a dog an owner needs to be able to provide basic care both financially and time-wise, but asking everyone to spend thousands on fencing isn't fair at all. Not everyone can afford the 'best situation' and it does not mean that they shouldn't own dogs.

To me, isn't that like saying that if you can't afford to feed raw all the time, you shouldn't own dogs? Or something along those lines. People deal the best they can with their constraints and do what they feel is best for their situation.
 

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Gamedog - in those pics - is that where your dogs live 24/7?

What do you use them for? Obviously they aren't house pets...
 
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As renee said several of his dogs are shown..he owns 11 dogs...so they may not all be "house dogs" ... but he does give every single dog the love and care he and she needs..if not more. I think it's very clear from the photos how much he loves his dogs and how much they adore him :)
 
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Gamedog - in those pics - is that where your dogs live 24/7?

What do you use them for? Obviously they aren't house pets...
"Obviously?" Ah, the eye of the beholder. ;)

At least two of Marty's dogs (Lil Bit and Rufus) are house dogs, and I think I've heard him say that he rotates them so they can have time in the house. And he does show his dogs, too, and does quite well with them. A recent brag included a BIS and Best Opposite for two of his dogs, on two seperate occasions.

Unfortunately, when you keep multiple Pit Bulls with any amount of drive, it is very risky (sometimes felony risky) to simply turn them loose in the yard together. Kennels frequently can't hold them, and the only way to safely secure them is with a chain. Which is why these anti-tether bills are little better than closet BSL, as was mentioned earlier. I spoke with an official who was supporting the anti-tether bill in one Texas town a year or two ago, and she told me that she liked it because it was a great way to get at "people breeding fighting dogs," in other words, people who own Pit Bulls.
 
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"Obviously?" Ah, the eye of the beholder. ;)
At least two of Marty's dogs (Lil Bit and Rufus) are house dogs, and I think I've heard him say that he rotates them so they can have time in the house. And he does show his dogs, too, and does quite well with them. A recent brag included a BIS and Best Opposite for two of his dogs, on two seperate occasions.
Unfortunately, when you keep multiple Pit Bulls with any amount of drive, it is very risky (sometimes felony risky) to simply turn them loose in the yard together. Kennels frequently can't hold them, and the only way to safely secure them is with a chain. Which is why these anti-tether bills are little better than closet BSL, as was mentioned earlier. I spoke with an official who was supporting the anti-tether bill in one Texas town a year or two ago, and she told me that she liked it because it was a great way to get at "people breeding fighting dogs," in other words, people who own Pit Bulls.
Thank you for this explanation. Not being a pitbull owner, it's helpful to hear this this and it would be great to see more posted. Unfortunately, anti-tethering is also a way to get back at people who own sled dogs, many of which are kept in similar housing set-ups with the dogs in closer proximity due to them being dog-social.

The pitbulls in the pics look clean, robust and the tether areas appear larger than most kennels and graveled to keep the dogs out of the mud. I also see what appears to be a solid perimeter fence meaning any arguments about these tethered dogs being a risk to the public would be baseless.

I know the fact that they're kept outdoors may be hard to see for some readers, but keep in mind that many housepets prefer being in the house because they have been socialized in this environment. Well cared for dogs socialized to outdoor living are equally at home in that environment as long as their basic needs are met, not the least being social interaction. One of my friends has an adopted Iditarod leader in his senior years who lives in the house. Her exasperated comment has been that the only time he seems happy is when he boards in my outdoor kennels even though she takes excellent care of this dog. It's not just the fact that he's outdoors...it's the dog yard culture and communication with other huskies that he's seeking because that's the environment in which he grew up. He likes people and likes attention, but prefers living, sleeping and eating among his kind. Since they live, eat, play, work and sleep together, this is a socially enriched environment from the dog's perspective. What I don't want to see is a kenneled, chained, crated, or loose dog with little exercise or social contact for long periods every single day.

Debbie
 

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"Obviously?" Ah, the eye of the beholder. ;)

At least two of Marty's dogs (Lil Bit and Rufus) are house dogs, and I think I've heard him say that he rotates them so they can have time in the house. And he does show his dogs, too, and does quite well with them. A recent brag included a BIS and Best Opposite for two of his dogs, on two seperate occasions.

Unfortunately, when you keep multiple Pit Bulls with any amount of drive, it is very risky (sometimes felony risky) to simply turn them loose in the yard together. Kennels frequently can't hold them, and the only way to safely secure them is with a chain. Which is why these anti-tether bills are little better than closet BSL, as was mentioned earlier. I spoke with an official who was supporting the anti-tether bill in one Texas town a year or two ago, and she told me that she liked it because it was a great way to get at "people breeding fighting dogs," in other words, people who own Pit Bulls.
Thank you, Baha!

What is it with assumptions these days? :rolleyes:
 

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