Soldiers throw a puppy off a cliff. *Video showing it*

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Hummm so you think our soldiers should have called 911 to the ASPCA or on-call Emerg. Vet in War to "liberate" a government not only from female slavery but the dogs too ? Or save a bullet ? I hope it's fake too. But I understand if it isn't.
Does anyone one know that this means?.. I need a translation. This seems to me you say you understand men having a joke and laughing about torturing a puppy????

(and yes I did think of the fact they may be killing off orphaned puppies or something, but tossing them off a cliff is one of the least humane ways possible)
 

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But this is sadism, and for that there is no excuse, in peace or in war.
Ohhh but survival isn't virtual. Maybe you'll never understand that, but it's true. If the pup was ill or cripple and anyone found it .. anyone would have choices to make in an environment like that to do what's best for the situation. Would anyone waste anyones water supply, a bullet, use anyones bare hands or just leave it behind to suffer. You have choices. The Soldier clearly said at the end he had to do what he had to do. Basically they couldn't leave it behind to suffer. That's how I understood the video in all honesty. The dude with the video camara is the joker not the one willing to save water and a bullet for his life. Another sad thing, I wonder how many people were with him who did have ammo. War is survival.
 

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Survival isn't virtual..... ummm errrr.

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Melissa I really want to understand your posts some times, but you make it so difficult.

Did you read Lilivati's post about humanely killing the pup? Cause I don't care how sickly it was throwing it off a cliff is not acceptable. What if the fall hadn't killed it. Do you think that man would have trekked down there to finish the job? Or would he have laughed and left?
 

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So survival is a simulation?
Survival is a computer game?
Survival is informally recognized?
Survival is not real?

Please tell me in which way you meant it.. and then how it applies.
 

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The Soldier clearly said at the end he had to do what he had to do. Basically they couldn't leave it behind to suffer. That's how I understood the video in all honesty. The dude with the video camera is the joker not the one willing to save water and a bullet for his life. Another sad thing, I wonder how many people were with him who did have ammo. War is survival.
Yes. The man who threw the puppy is a hero. Shame on the camera man for not putting he camera down to help. :rolleyes:

I work with a guy who is ex-military. He said they had to shoot dogs on occasion, because they were sick or scavenging human corpses. He won't talk about it, let alone post it on the internet and laugh. See the difference??

The @$$ wipe in that video hold it up and says' Aww, isn't it cute' or something to that effect before he tosses it. He's a sick piece or crap, a waste of life.
 
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I hope its a fake, I really do. But I'm not going to justify it if its not because the people in it are our soldiers. On the contary, I condemn it more strongly, because those young men reprisent my nation, its ideals, and by extension, they reprisent me. War is a war, and awful things happen, and I accept that. But this is sadism, and for that there is no excuse, in peace or in war.
Very well said, Lilavati! (Has the makings of a great closing for a closing argument, too ;) )
 

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Melissa, I'm not honestly the kind of person that likes debate or likes to argue with people, especially over the internet... but I seriously have to echo what others have said prior. Now's a really ideal time for you to take advantage of that little siggy of yours. Here's your chance to shut up. If you want to bring politics into this then you need to take it to a different thread. We can all debate politics in a seperate thread till we're blue in the face. But this thread right here... is not the place for your politic bullcrap.


*steps off pedestal*
 

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I work with a guy who is ex-military. He said they had to shoot dogs on occasion, because they were sick or scavenging human corpses. He won't talk about it, let alone post it on the internet and laugh. See the difference??
Yes I do clearly. That's why I hope it's a fake.
 

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This is horrible. I can only hope that this dipstick will get his @ss handed to him.
 

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And just would the point be if it was fake??????? I didn't watch it, no need, I am fully aware of how cruel people can be.
If that pup needed to be put out of its misery, there were much better ways to do it. Being a soldier they are trained in hand to hand combat, hell they are trained to mortally protect themselves and it should have been to easy to break that pups neck. Hell even I know how to do that.
I agree (regardless of whether its a fake or not), they are a disgrace to themselves, the Marines, their Country and to the rest of free world. Hopefully they will be held accountable for their actions, real or not.
 

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First...I love our troops and hold them in the highest regard. They are some of the very best the USA has to offer.

With that said...these two puke bags are fecal mounds. They are sadistic and evil and make our country (including their fellow soldiers) look bad.

Even if you hate dogs you should still be outraged by this. This will be used to make our country and our soldiers look like evil and cruel bullies. It is a Huge PR blunder. These soldiers should be court marshaled for Treason because they have given our enemy help in the Public Opinion war they we are fighting.

Side note: Dogs and Muslims: Dogs are not viewed as evil, just unclean.
 

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The sound was unbearable. I can't believe people could do that.

When will we realize that war is not the answer? That poor puppy--and think of the number of PEOPLE that have faced similar fates.
 

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Ohh wait here's another dog the Soldiers found. The title reads "torturing" .. these Soldiers found the dog like this over two years ago and someone is only clipin 1:01 instance on youtube. The full IED video back 2 years ago would have been the full video seeing the dog as they drove up on it close range and the land and goats around that was polverized. They expected the situation was like this for days. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=29ubFeESQbU

I just find it hard to believe our Military kills uninjured animals for no reason. But that's just me.
 

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Melissa... I find it hard to believe that some grown man could rape an innocent little girl... the thought of it is disgusting and twisted but it still happens and is extremely unfortunate and absolutely terrible. You have a hard time believing that our armed forces would do something like this. You'd like to think that all of our military is great and wouldn't kill uninjured animals... but as it stands in every group; there are always a few selected that have a few wires loose. It's not the military that's doing it to these pups... it's certain individuals... individuals that need to be heavily punished for their sick and twisted actions.

I don't know that this video is fake or not. That's besides the point. Even if it's fake, the individuals who thought to even make the video are still sick and twisted in my mind.
 
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I can't watch it, I would feel so bad and keep thinking about it. I can't believe someone would do that how horrible. I hope these idiots get into trouble.
 

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Ohh wait here's another dog the Soldiers found. The title reads "torturing" .. these Soldiers found the dog like this over two years ago and someone is only clipin 1:01 instance on youtube. The full IED video back 2 years ago would have been the full video seeing the dog as they drove up on it close range and the land and goats around that was polverized. They expected the situation was like this for days. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=29ubFeESQbU

I just find it hard to believe our Military kills uninjured animals for no reason. But that's just me.
What are you talking about? The link that you posted is just as terrible, IMO. I can not understand how a human could torture a hurt dog by throwing stones at it. If they wanted to help, they'd put it out of its misery.. not torture it by throwing stones at it and getting a riot out of it.

Same with the video from the puppy that was thrown over the cliff. HOW is that fake? I can only hope- and I am sure it will happen- that someone up the chain of command from that Marine will bust his @ss into shape. Just because someone is in the military does not mean that they automatically are not sh!tbags. And every so often stuff like this will come up and it hurts the image of all service members.
 

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someone should make sure that these soliders that are serving are country are punished for doing such a horriable thing i wish i knew how to get a hold of there commanding officer and have these guys throwen off a cliff they are horriable people
 

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MilissaCato, please just stop. Even people in the military are capable of just plain WRONG actions. This is one. No matter who had thrown the dog- military or not, it would be a cruel action.

They deserve to be punished.
 

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