I think that's definitely pushy. My vet is pro-spay/neuter as well, but he listened to me when I told him why Dance is not to be spayed and hasn't pushed the issue at all. I'd be pretty annoyed if I got a letter like that in the mail, though I do think it's good for the majority of pet owners. Obviously though you've given valid reasons as to why Blaze will not be neutered, so the clinic should be leaving you alone.
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I'm glad to hear the both descended. I never read an update about it. I thought if they had concerns they might bug you..
But if it's a general letter about it. Ugh. Smudge was 6 months when he tried to rape a bush in my yard and had his eye issue and massive vet bills. The e-vet harassed me that because I didn't neuter him THAT is why he was humping bushes (one time freak experience that hasn't ever occurred again). Told them I was showing him and he needed his parts. Then the regular vet gave me that speech repeatedly..
I dig, the harassment bugged the heck out of me. Guess it's good for the average dog owner, might help cut down on population issues.. but I think I'd be a little annoyed too.
I've never gotten anything but hm/shot postcards.
I'm glad to hear the both descended. I never read an update about it. I thought if they had concerns they might bug you..
But if it's a general letter about it. Ugh. Smudge was 6 months when he tried to rape a bush in my yard and had his eye issue and massive vet bills. The e-vet harassed me that because I didn't neuter him THAT is why he was humping bushes (one time freak experience that hasn't ever occurred again). Told them I was showing him and he needed his parts. Then the regular vet gave me that speech repeatedly..
I dig, the harassment bugged the heck out of me. Guess it's good for the average dog owner, might help cut down on population issues.. but I think I'd be a little annoyed too.
I've never gotten anything but hm/shot postcards.
Am I one of the only ones that think the letter is a good idea? I wonder if the vet ever helps/works at the humane society and has to euthanize all the unwanted dogs and cats. How many clients have brought in their pregnant dog because she escaped from the house and met up with an intact male and the pups weren't wanted?
I would just toss the letter in the trash and just remind him on your next visit that you aren't planning on neutering at this time and ask him to make a note in the dog's chart.
I would just toss the letter in the trash and just remind him on your next visit that you aren't planning on neutering at this time and ask him to make a note in the dog's chart.
Think of the average pet owner. You know, the one who later will be saying, "Just imagine, Fido got Fluffy pregnant, I never saw that coming! So I am selling the puppies as [designer dog name here.]"
I am guessing that is why he sends out letters like those. Responsible pet owners can manage unnuetered/unspayed dogs properly, but how many pet owners ARE responsible?
I am guessing that is why he sends out letters like those. Responsible pet owners can manage unnuetered/unspayed dogs properly, but how many pet owners ARE responsible?
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That would annoy the hell out of me, if they pushed the neuter issue. But no one at my vet has even mentioned neutering any of my dogs. But they deal with alot of breeders so I guess thats the "norm" for them. I have my reasons for leaving my dog intact, and I have NEVER had a pregnancy scare. I just dont understand how in the world it could be so difficult to control your dog 
I'm torn here .... I wouldn't take it personally . He's probably seen too many " whoops " litters and bad breeders . I had the opposite ...I'd get calls asking if I was planning a litter or studding my males out . They loved my Goldens ... in fact 3 of their vets bought one of my pups . Sorry if this sounds like a brag ......it is !!!:lol-sign:
i think the letter is a good idea...
HOWEVER in this case you made it very clear from early on you wernt planning on neutering and obviously again over the next few visits. i think if you give a viable reason why the vet should make a note and drop it.
ive had the same problems in the past, the vet i used to work for was so adamant about how i HAD to spay vixie and "the judges wont know" when i explained i was planning on showing her that it was a huge deciding factor in me leaving.
personally id write a very infomrative letter back including lots of information ot the pros of not neutering untill older and plans on showing ect...keep it formal and freindly and keep your points clear, at the end ask that a note be made on his chart that you have no plans to neuter at this time and would apreciate no more reminders. When you feel its time to neuter him you will make the apt on your own time.
HOWEVER in this case you made it very clear from early on you wernt planning on neutering and obviously again over the next few visits. i think if you give a viable reason why the vet should make a note and drop it.
ive had the same problems in the past, the vet i used to work for was so adamant about how i HAD to spay vixie and "the judges wont know" when i explained i was planning on showing her that it was a huge deciding factor in me leaving.
personally id write a very infomrative letter back including lots of information ot the pros of not neutering untill older and plans on showing ect...keep it formal and freindly and keep your points clear, at the end ask that a note be made on his chart that you have no plans to neuter at this time and would apreciate no more reminders. When you feel its time to neuter him you will make the apt on your own time.
Ugh... I'm sure that is beyond frustrating.
I do understand encouraging spay/neuter, but after you've talked to them, and made it clear that IF Blaze is ever bred it's going to be 100% reputably, it seems like they would take the hint! Do you know your Vet on a first-name basis? It annoys me when Vets don't really get to know you or your dog and treat every patient the same... I know my Vet wouldn't pigeon-hole me with the average "pet" owner, if I had a dog who I wanted to keep intact while proving their breeding worth and considering if I wanted to breed.
I am going through something similar with my friend and her BC puppy. I managed to persuade them to wait until Sadie was full grown to spay her (I definitely trust them to not allow her to get knocked up!)... until the Vet butted in and said 6 months is the best time. They wanted to wait, and understood the benefits of waiting, but a pushy Vet is obviously more persuasive to most people.
I do understand encouraging spay/neuter, but after you've talked to them, and made it clear that IF Blaze is ever bred it's going to be 100% reputably, it seems like they would take the hint! Do you know your Vet on a first-name basis? It annoys me when Vets don't really get to know you or your dog and treat every patient the same... I know my Vet wouldn't pigeon-hole me with the average "pet" owner, if I had a dog who I wanted to keep intact while proving their breeding worth and considering if I wanted to breed.
I am going through something similar with my friend and her BC puppy. I managed to persuade them to wait until Sadie was full grown to spay her (I definitely trust them to not allow her to get knocked up!)... until the Vet butted in and said 6 months is the best time. They wanted to wait, and understood the benefits of waiting, but a pushy Vet is obviously more persuasive to most people.
I wouldn't take it personally. I get an auto generated one from a vet I saw once with my girl when I first got her. I rushed her in on a Sunday morning because she was dehydrated and had blue gums. The vet noticed she was in tact and I explained I would be spaying when she picked up enough weight. I still get notices. My girl has been spayed for 3 years. She was done at my regular vet.
I got a spay reminder card in the mail from the vet that was holding Misty before we adopted her. I didn't mind, as I had every intention of getting it done anyways. It sounds like you've made yourself clear though so the reminders really should stop.
Have they marked on his paperwork that you intend to keep him intact? One of my previous vets apparently didn't put important remarks on their paperwork which I found out when I took my remaining ferret in for a follow up shot a few weeks after the other one died.. And they asked me if I had brought her along for the ride to keep Munky company.
Have they marked on his paperwork that you intend to keep him intact? One of my previous vets apparently didn't put important remarks on their paperwork which I found out when I took my remaining ferret in for a follow up shot a few weeks after the other one died.. And they asked me if I had brought her along for the ride to keep Munky company.
I didn't read the whole thread, but I personally would love it if my vet in the states did this with their clients. Paper is paper, easy to throw away. I would have more of a problem if they continued to discuss this with me when I go in (which you said was in his chart - so I would tell them to have it removed ASAP and call in to check).
While I understand the frustration of the OP and the fact that they ARE responsible, I think that it is the RESPONSIBILITY of every Vet. to educate and sometimes even strongly encourage spay/neuter through whatever means they find reaches the public.
A shockingly large percentage of every class that I teach (I start 48 new puppies in classes on the 26th and 28th of this month alone), happens to be 'oops' litters. Just take a look at the stats DAILY in every single rescue in your area. Most dogs who end up in shelter impound are unaltered. They DO wander. Sex to an unaltered dog/cat is such a huge drive and that it is a real problem when people (the majority of the pop.) don't understand how to deal with it. (Again, not referring to the OP, but rather the general public).
This is today's situation in our Animal Services Impound.....looks the same as every other day. Intact, roaming animals are an enormous problem everywhere. Anyone care to guess how many oops litter have occured because of just this number of dogs in this one shelter?http://www.calgary.ca/portal/server...=13974&in_hi_ObjectID=267&in_hi_OpenerMode=2&
In fact I have a segment in every class where I cover why spay/neuter is so important. While I'm not pushy about it, I'm pretty certain that it annoys some people.... Working in rescue brings you much closer to the reasons that Vets. NEED to be on the front lines..with letter/discussions with clients...whatever it takes.
A shockingly large percentage of every class that I teach (I start 48 new puppies in classes on the 26th and 28th of this month alone), happens to be 'oops' litters. Just take a look at the stats DAILY in every single rescue in your area. Most dogs who end up in shelter impound are unaltered. They DO wander. Sex to an unaltered dog/cat is such a huge drive and that it is a real problem when people (the majority of the pop.) don't understand how to deal with it. (Again, not referring to the OP, but rather the general public).
This is today's situation in our Animal Services Impound.....looks the same as every other day. Intact, roaming animals are an enormous problem everywhere. Anyone care to guess how many oops litter have occured because of just this number of dogs in this one shelter?http://www.calgary.ca/portal/server...=13974&in_hi_ObjectID=267&in_hi_OpenerMode=2&
In fact I have a segment in every class where I cover why spay/neuter is so important. While I'm not pushy about it, I'm pretty certain that it annoys some people.... Working in rescue brings you much closer to the reasons that Vets. NEED to be on the front lines..with letter/discussions with clients...whatever it takes.
Most vets offices send things like that at a certain age. We got them on all our dogs the same way we get reminders for shots. Throw it in the trash. Remember for most normal owners its a great thing for them to get.
If you feel in person your vet is pushy then get a new one-but its a letter, probably sent to everyone.
If you feel in person your vet is pushy then get a new one-but its a letter, probably sent to everyone.
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I never got any such letter from a vet ... and have lived on both sides of the country. There were only ever postcard reminders for vaccinations and wellness exams. But like others, I wouldn't take it personally either. If I didn't want to spay or neuter, or simply wanted to wait longer, then the letter would just go into the paper recycling.
Lizmo, if you want to stop getting these letters you need to tell the vet's office manager, not the vet. I would also bet it's an automatically computer-generated thing ... so talking to the vet about it isn't likely to make it stop. Medical practitioners are notorious for being personally disorganized .. the vet probably neglected to mention it to the office manager. Also, receptionists usually don't have the authority to make such system changes, which normally require a password only accessible to the office manager.
Lizmo, if you want to stop getting these letters you need to tell the vet's office manager, not the vet. I would also bet it's an automatically computer-generated thing ... so talking to the vet about it isn't likely to make it stop. Medical practitioners are notorious for being personally disorganized .. the vet probably neglected to mention it to the office manager. Also, receptionists usually don't have the authority to make such system changes, which normally require a password only accessible to the office manager.
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They are pushy for good reason. The majority of people AREN'T responsible, and they are doing their best to encourage people to do the right thing with common sense and logical reasons. As a receptionist at a veterinary clinic, when people call asking about breeding, I encourage them to spay and nueter.
Also, you have to remember it is likely the RECEPTIONISTS that send these reminders out. I doubt the vet sends every reminder out. He doesn't have the time, that's why he hires receptionists. And unless you spoke to them and told them of your reasons and they understand that you are responsible, they will send them. Heck, even if you ahd talked to them, it may be nothing more than procedure to send it to every client.
No reason to get huffy over it. The vet office is doing the right thing.
Also, you have to remember it is likely the RECEPTIONISTS that send these reminders out. I doubt the vet sends every reminder out. He doesn't have the time, that's why he hires receptionists. And unless you spoke to them and told them of your reasons and they understand that you are responsible, they will send them. Heck, even if you ahd talked to them, it may be nothing more than procedure to send it to every client.
No reason to get huffy over it. The vet office is doing the right thing.