PETA is sick!
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I probably shouldn't spend any time on this, but let me get this straight-- So, it's OK for anyone to directly say that animal rights activists are hypocrites, morons, crazy, nutcases, terrorists...etc...and that's NOT being offensive or rude to anyone who may be an animal activist/vegan...BUT, if an animal activist makes a comment simply about how meat eaters may have treated them and/or spoken to them, then that's being rude and disrespectful towards all of the meat eaters of the world. Do I have that right? I am really not trying to be funny or sarcastic here (even though there might appear to be a slight tone of sarcasm), I seriously would like to know. Has anyone witnessed anyone saying anything on this thread like 'meat eaters are morons'? (besides the silly IQ thing --which, as I said in a prior post, it shouldn't have been taken so seriously in the first place) or how about 'meat eaters are hypocrites'? Well, I don't recall seeing anything like that, and I certainly didn't say a derogatory thing about any individual either, and yet I've been accused of being 'rude'. For example:
Key word here is insinuated--quite a difference in what someone may 'think' that another is implying and when someone is directly stating something (ie animal rights people are crazy terrorists). Where exactly did I imply that meat eaters are "less evolved" or are "dumbed down"? Please, show me exactly where I said either of those things. If for nothing else, maybe it will encourage me to take a writing class so I may learn how to better express myself. I'm serious.
Please, show me exactly where I made any sort of direct derogatory/negative comment about any individual (besides replying to your instigating posts).
BTW, Buddy'sParents, you made note of my 2 hour absence earlier (guess ya missed me!
I wish that I could just sit here for hours at a time, but I usually have at least 3 or 4 projects that I'm working on so I go back and forth (and try not to get stuck on here for too long at a time!)
Key word here is insinuated--quite a difference in what someone may 'think' that another is implying and when someone is directly stating something (ie animal rights people are crazy terrorists). Where exactly did I imply that meat eaters are "less evolved" or are "dumbed down"? Please, show me exactly where I said either of those things. If for nothing else, maybe it will encourage me to take a writing class so I may learn how to better express myself. I'm serious.
Please, show me exactly where I made any sort of direct derogatory/negative comment about any individual (besides replying to your instigating posts).
BTW, Buddy'sParents, you made note of my 2 hour absence earlier (guess ya missed me!
I wish that I could just sit here for hours at a time, but I usually have at least 3 or 4 projects that I'm working on so I go back and forth (and try not to get stuck on here for too long at a time!)
Its a generalization of the whackjobs that make the news... PETA, MEAT, Freinds of Animals. Not the everyday non in you face protester, but the indirect underhanded insults of those who want to be viewed as a victim.
And yet you draw attention to it for what reason?
That is where you can claim victimhood, you make indirect insults/negative/attacks. Very high and mighty of you and your ilk.
You passive agressive arguments are your direct derogatory/negative comments, you must get along quite well with Jason Els.
And yet you draw attention to it for what reason?
That is where you can claim victimhood, you make indirect insults/negative/attacks. Very high and mighty of you and your ilk.
You passive agressive arguments are your direct derogatory/negative comments, you must get along quite well with Jason Els.
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Ah, there's the little spitfire! :lol-sign:
I do believe that you are confused about the earlier discussions regarding animals rights activists. There was a discussion going regarding the difference between rights and welfare, I do believe. If I remember correctly, there are indeed, the hardcore activists, such as PETA, which go above and beyond and are doing what they claim to be fighting for. So, if you associate yourself with PETA, then, I am truly sorry. Perhaps you do not love animals as you say you do.
I think I'm just as confused as you are there.
Uh-huh, suuuuure.
Yes, dear, Madilyn'sMom, INSINUATED. You have a history of such. For the latter in the above paragraph refer back to your previous posts, I, frankly got enough of them the first time around.
Anyone else feel like they are watching an episode of Jerry? Jer-ry! Jer-ry!
I did miss you! I'm glad you decided to come back.
In fact, I wonder why you're not around for all controversial conversations. You bring so much to the vegan/vegetarian/let's hate all meat eaters/meat eaters have no compassion for animals conversations that I think you should be around for ALL controversial topics. I mean, really, I can't remember the last time I felt so educated, you bring so much to the conversations.
I do believe that you are confused about the earlier discussions regarding animals rights activists. There was a discussion going regarding the difference between rights and welfare, I do believe. If I remember correctly, there are indeed, the hardcore activists, such as PETA, which go above and beyond and are doing what they claim to be fighting for. So, if you associate yourself with PETA, then, I am truly sorry. Perhaps you do not love animals as you say you do.
I think I'm just as confused as you are there.
Uh-huh, suuuuure.
Yes, dear, Madilyn'sMom, INSINUATED. You have a history of such. For the latter in the above paragraph refer back to your previous posts, I, frankly got enough of them the first time around.
Anyone else feel like they are watching an episode of Jerry? Jer-ry! Jer-ry!
BTW, Buddy'sParents, you made note of my 2 hour absence earlier (guess ya missed me! I wish that I could just sit here for hours at a time, but I usually have at least 3 or 4 projects that I'm working on so I go back and forth (and try not to get stuck on here for too long at a time!)[/COLOR]
I wish that I could just sit here for hours at a time, but I usually have at least 3 or 4 projects that I'm working on so I go back and forth (and try not to get stuck on here for too long at a time!)[/COLOR]
In fact, I wonder why you're not around for all controversial conversations. You bring so much to the vegan/vegetarian/let's hate all meat eaters/meat eaters have no compassion for animals conversations that I think you should be around for ALL controversial topics. I mean, really, I can't remember the last time I felt so educated, you bring so much to the conversations.
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Yep .. I'se a dummie!
Mad'sMom - It makes perfect sense that people will take offense to insinuations that they don't have compassion for animals, that hunting equals cruelty, that hunting to keep prey animals from starving is a myth, that those who choose to not eat meat are more intelligent, etc. While you may not have said directly that people who eat meat are terrible, you certainly hinted that they are and that those who don't eat meat are more kind and considerate.
The thought that vegetarians have a higher IQ is mildly amusing to me. First, I am not sure that is even accurate (certainly doesn't appear to be that way where I live). And - as someone else mentioned - I doubt that most of those people were RAISED as vegetarians. Their intelligence level had nothing to do with what they ate - becoming a vegetarian was most likely a choice they made as an adult. And who are we to say WHY they made that choice? It may be something as simple as not fitting into normal society (possibly because of their IQ's) and finding that being a vegetarian put them in a group where they could co-exist without having their IQ's be a factor. We have no way of knowing.
The terms "animal rights" and "animal welfare" have gained a certain definition in today's world, and "animal rights" is linked strongly with groups such as PETA. To choose to call yourself an animal rights activist will, logically, make people think you are a PETA type person. That's YOUR choice, of course. It may make a lot more sense to choose a different terminology in order to describe what you believe in, since you do think it's okay to own and use an animal. In all honesty, if we're going to look at the "rights" of animals, how can any animal rights activist say it's okay to own an animal (regardless of whether you want to think the animal is a member of your family or not, you DO own it)? Doesn't the animal have a right to choose where it wants to live and where it wants to go and what it wants to do? Isn't it wrong to tie/confine an animal, if you believe in animal rights? Isn't it wrong to spay or neuter or give vaccinations or feed pre-packaged foods? After all, an animal has a RIGHT to search for its own food.
So as you can see, the very term "animal rights" leads to all sorts of questions. It seems to me that if a person believes in animal rights *only to the point where it suits their interactions with their animals* then they're not an animal rights activist at all. They're simply someone who thinks that eating meat is wrong and hunting is wrong and using leather is wrong, but it's okay for THEM to own an animal and put a collar and leash on it. And, in the eyes of those who do eat meat, hunt, etc., that appears hypocritical.
It's a good thing to believe in treating animals humanely. It's a good thing to acknowledge what we're doing in the name of owning and training and using animals for our companions or as working animals. If not eating meat works for someone, then that's right for THEM. But to insinuate that others are not compassionate simply because they make other choices is always going to encourage some rancor - especially on a forum where the majority of people love their animals but do believe in eating meat.
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Mad'sMom - It makes perfect sense that people will take offense to insinuations that they don't have compassion for animals, that hunting equals cruelty, that hunting to keep prey animals from starving is a myth, that those who choose to not eat meat are more intelligent, etc. While you may not have said directly that people who eat meat are terrible, you certainly hinted that they are and that those who don't eat meat are more kind and considerate.
The thought that vegetarians have a higher IQ is mildly amusing to me. First, I am not sure that is even accurate (certainly doesn't appear to be that way where I live). And - as someone else mentioned - I doubt that most of those people were RAISED as vegetarians. Their intelligence level had nothing to do with what they ate - becoming a vegetarian was most likely a choice they made as an adult. And who are we to say WHY they made that choice? It may be something as simple as not fitting into normal society (possibly because of their IQ's) and finding that being a vegetarian put them in a group where they could co-exist without having their IQ's be a factor. We have no way of knowing.
The terms "animal rights" and "animal welfare" have gained a certain definition in today's world, and "animal rights" is linked strongly with groups such as PETA. To choose to call yourself an animal rights activist will, logically, make people think you are a PETA type person. That's YOUR choice, of course. It may make a lot more sense to choose a different terminology in order to describe what you believe in, since you do think it's okay to own and use an animal. In all honesty, if we're going to look at the "rights" of animals, how can any animal rights activist say it's okay to own an animal (regardless of whether you want to think the animal is a member of your family or not, you DO own it)? Doesn't the animal have a right to choose where it wants to live and where it wants to go and what it wants to do? Isn't it wrong to tie/confine an animal, if you believe in animal rights? Isn't it wrong to spay or neuter or give vaccinations or feed pre-packaged foods? After all, an animal has a RIGHT to search for its own food.
So as you can see, the very term "animal rights" leads to all sorts of questions. It seems to me that if a person believes in animal rights *only to the point where it suits their interactions with their animals* then they're not an animal rights activist at all. They're simply someone who thinks that eating meat is wrong and hunting is wrong and using leather is wrong, but it's okay for THEM to own an animal and put a collar and leash on it. And, in the eyes of those who do eat meat, hunt, etc., that appears hypocritical.
It's a good thing to believe in treating animals humanely. It's a good thing to acknowledge what we're doing in the name of owning and training and using animals for our companions or as working animals. If not eating meat works for someone, then that's right for THEM. But to insinuate that others are not compassionate simply because they make other choices is always going to encourage some rancor - especially on a forum where the majority of people love their animals but do believe in eating meat.
Melanie and the gang in Alaska
that sounds very closed minded. there are a LOT of people involved with PETA that DO love animals. a lot of people DON'T think of the animals best interests but that in no way says they don't love them. also, i have seen NO written or verbal articles from PETA saying that they believe that all pets should be "set free". but, if there is, show me. i would like to see them.
ofcourse it does, as soon as you say "animal rights", the whole point of your opinion is lost as all people want to do is argue about the meaning of the term.
i have experience with this sort of political correctness. where i used to livei'm just saying, honestly, call it whatever you want but the idea behind, the basic understanding is that of stopping animal suffering. no matter what way you talk about it. its the same thing. sure some people may go about it the wrong way, but why not go on and educate those people instead of arguing about the politically correct way to say things?
ofcourse it does, as soon as you say "animal rights", the whole point of your opinion is lost as all people want to do is argue about the meaning of the term.
i have experience with this sort of political correctness. where i used to livei'm just saying, honestly, call it whatever you want but the idea behind, the basic understanding is that of stopping animal suffering. no matter what way you talk about it. its the same thing. sure some people may go about it the wrong way, but why not go on and educate those people instead of arguing about the politically correct way to say things?
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A good post IliamnasQuest... Civil but informative!
I have noticed that whenever the issue of vegetarianism crops up Madilyn's Mom, is the first to jump on the band wagon. This is just a curiosity question, that I may regret.. Do you just lurk on the off chance that someone is going to be talking about meat eating? We don't see you around much otherwise. Maybe if you stuck around and let us know more about yourself, we wouldn't be so quick to get on the defensive all the time..
It is fine to have views and opinions, in fact I applaud people who have the conviction to stand up for what they believe in... But when it is at the cost of others, it's not so good. To be insulting is easy, but to talk to people respectfully and intelligently is not so easily done.
Is there a double standard, pet owners who eat meat? No, I don't think so.. After all I am sure that you have stated before that you feed your dogs meat... Would I call you up on that as a double standard? Nope, I'm not that way inclined. They need it to be healthy, as many humans do. Is it ok therefore to feed your dogs meat because they don't have the same moralistic attitude as we do?
I have noticed that whenever the issue of vegetarianism crops up Madilyn's Mom, is the first to jump on the band wagon. This is just a curiosity question, that I may regret.. Do you just lurk on the off chance that someone is going to be talking about meat eating? We don't see you around much otherwise. Maybe if you stuck around and let us know more about yourself, we wouldn't be so quick to get on the defensive all the time..
It is fine to have views and opinions, in fact I applaud people who have the conviction to stand up for what they believe in... But when it is at the cost of others, it's not so good. To be insulting is easy, but to talk to people respectfully and intelligently is not so easily done.
Is there a double standard, pet owners who eat meat? No, I don't think so.. After all I am sure that you have stated before that you feed your dogs meat... Would I call you up on that as a double standard? Nope, I'm not that way inclined. They need it to be healthy, as many humans do. Is it ok therefore to feed your dogs meat because they don't have the same moralistic attitude as we do?
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Nice post Melanie--I totally respect your views and your polite nature You're right about the association of the term "animal rights activist", but quite frankly, if I'm actually going to label myself at all, I really prefer to simply say that I'm 'vegan', but that also seems to get people ruffled up sometimes---just can't win sometimes! The IQ thing was rather silly in my opinion, and I really think that some people took it far too seriously.
Buddy'sParents-If you had actually read my prior posts here that explain why I'd rather not 'label' myself at all, BUT would consider myself an animal rights activist rather than an animal welfare activist, you would have also read that I am not part of any organization, PETA or otherwise, and for you to make such a judgement of me even if I were, is being, just as mrose said "closed minded"---that's ridculous to judge an individual by a whole group/religion/race...etc...
And as for mentioning any of my previous posts---I hardly think you of all people ought to be bringing that up. Sure lots of us have probably posted some things that we wish we'd said differently, but I assure you that I've never said anything that I would ever completely delete--and of course I don't have that luxury -as you apparently do. Quite frankly, based on such incidents as that horribly inconsiderate and rude response to a thread started by mrose's that obviously was so inappropriate you removed it, I seriously wonder how it is that you are allowed to be a moderator. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't a mod supposed to mediate and keep things civil? It's kind of odd how it seems that you seem to do the opposite and try to agitate some people. It's also odd how I get PM's from people who feel the same way---if only some of those people would post publicly, but then they too would risk attack now wouldn't they. Odd, this isn't the first time that's happened here..
As for your Jerry Springer reference.....again, are you actually a mod? Please, that is absolutely uncalled for, immature and rude behaviour--YOU are the one who is insulting. So please spare me, and the respectful people of this forum, your silly, inconsiderate, snide, agitating remarks---I truly don't see where anyone is finding you amusing---besides your own self. Seriously, your actions are way out of line for a moderator, and if anyone here truly feels that your conduct has been proper I'd be very surprised.
Hello Gustav-nice to see you too! :lol-sign: Gosh, it's funny how you and Buddy'sParents seem so concerned about when/how often I show up here--I didn't realize that there was a quota to meet. Seriously, what does it really matter? I'm a very busy person and I peek in when I get a moment. I'll never have time to go through all of the threads in every catagory, and I don't always have something to say.....but, sometimes there's a topic that catches my attention and I join in. Period. If I were a dancer and mostly joined in on posts about dancing, would that be a big deal? Veganism/animal issues are a few of my passions, yes they can be very controversial, but that is not why they are my interests. Anyway, I've certainly spent far too much time here lately --thus, a reason for my thought/post the other night when I said "OK, sorry, I think maybe that this thread probably ought to go to rest soon" I was mainly speaking for myself, as we all know that one can spend far too much time on forums.
ToscasMom--NOW what on earth are you trying to do? Isn't it funny how it is the same few people who seem to keep on trying to start something? Really, you've been trying to get at me a few times in this thread---what are you doing, sitting there picking through every word and phrase that I've written and then split them apart and try to prove some delusional vision that YOU have?!! PLEASE, it's obvious that most people here can have civil discussions, so just stop trying to agitate something that's not even there. This is completely ridiculous already.
Nice post Melanie--I totally respect your views and your polite nature
You're right about the association of the term "animal rights activist", but quite frankly, if I'm actually going to label myself at all, I really prefer to simply say that I'm 'vegan', but that also seems to get people ruffled up sometimes---just can't win sometimes! The IQ thing was rather silly in my opinion, and I really think that some people took it far too seriously.Buddy'sParents-If you had actually read my prior posts here that explain why I'd rather not 'label' myself at all, BUT would consider myself an animal rights activist rather than an animal welfare activist, you would have also read that I am not part of any organization, PETA or otherwise, and for you to make such a judgement of me even if I were, is being, just as mrose said "closed minded"---that's ridculous to judge an individual by a whole group/religion/race...etc...
And as for mentioning any of my previous posts---I hardly think you of all people ought to be bringing that up. Sure lots of us have probably posted some things that we wish we'd said differently, but I assure you that I've never said anything that I would ever completely delete--and of course I don't have that luxury -as you apparently do. Quite frankly, based on such incidents as that horribly inconsiderate and rude response to a thread started by mrose's that obviously was so inappropriate you removed it, I seriously wonder how it is that you are allowed to be a moderator. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't a mod supposed to mediate and keep things civil? It's kind of odd how it seems that you seem to do the opposite and try to agitate some people. It's also odd how I get PM's from people who feel the same way---if only some of those people would post publicly, but then they too would risk attack now wouldn't they. Odd, this isn't the first time that's happened here..
As for your Jerry Springer reference.....again, are you actually a mod? Please, that is absolutely uncalled for, immature and rude behaviour--YOU are the one who is insulting. So please spare me, and the respectful people of this forum, your silly, inconsiderate, snide, agitating remarks---I truly don't see where anyone is finding you amusing---besides your own self. Seriously, your actions are way out of line for a moderator, and if anyone here truly feels that your conduct has been proper I'd be very surprised.
Hello Gustav-nice to see you too! :lol-sign: Gosh, it's funny how you and Buddy'sParents seem so concerned about when/how often I show up here--I didn't realize that there was a quota to meet. Seriously, what does it really matter? I'm a very busy person and I peek in when I get a moment. I'll never have time to go through all of the threads in every catagory, and I don't always have something to say.....but, sometimes there's a topic that catches my attention and I join in. Period. If I were a dancer and mostly joined in on posts about dancing, would that be a big deal? Veganism/animal issues are a few of my passions, yes they can be very controversial, but that is not why they are my interests. Anyway, I've certainly spent far too much time here lately --thus, a reason for my thought/post the other night when I said "OK, sorry, I think maybe that this thread probably ought to go to rest soon" I was mainly speaking for myself, as we all know that one can spend far too much time on forums.
ToscasMom--NOW what on earth are you trying to do? Isn't it funny how it is the same few people who seem to keep on trying to start something? Really, you've been trying to get at me a few times in this thread---what are you doing, sitting there picking through every word and phrase that I've written and then split them apart and try to prove some delusional vision that YOU have?!! PLEASE, it's obvious that most people here can have civil discussions, so just stop trying to agitate something that's not even there. This is completely ridiculous already.
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It is close minded, mrose. I absolutely refuse to associate myself with any such organization that calls itself an animal rights organization and does the very thing that they proclaim themselves to fight against.
The above is also why I do not associate myself with the ASPCA, nor will I ever adopt from one again. Does this make me inhumane? Nope. I have my rescues, I have my dogs and my cat and my rats and my new fish and they receive better care than my husband and myself. They always come first in our lives and they are given the best life possible.
So, I'll do drives for my local shelter, I'll buy food every month and donate it, I'll walk through the aisle and I'll give the dogs and cats and rabbits some lovins'.
I will fight and do that all that I can for those without a voice, because I DO have compassion or animals. I do have a high IQ. I do love my pets and loved being owned-by them.
I have every bit as compassion as Madilyn'sMom thinks she has. And.... I eat MEAT.
AND- I eat meat.
The above is also why I do not associate myself with the ASPCA, nor will I ever adopt from one again. Does this make me inhumane? Nope. I have my rescues, I have my dogs and my cat and my rats and my new fish and they receive better care than my husband and myself. They always come first in our lives and they are given the best life possible.
So, I'll do drives for my local shelter, I'll buy food every month and donate it, I'll walk through the aisle and I'll give the dogs and cats and rabbits some lovins'.
I will fight and do that all that I can for those without a voice, because I DO have compassion or animals. I do have a high IQ. I do love my pets and loved being owned-by them.
I have every bit as compassion as Madilyn'sMom thinks she has. And.... I eat MEAT.
AND- I eat meat.
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*chuckles*
I am human enough to admit that I have made mistakes. I do believe I said I was not perfect. I am human enough to admit that- are you?
Yeah, I do have a right to delete any comments which I deem inappropriate-that includes mine and others. If you ever feel that you have made a comment that is inappropriate, please ask a mod and perhaps they can also delete it for you (but, somehow, I don't see that happening, I forget how perfect you are).
A mod is supposed to keep things civil, but this mod is sick and tired of the way you treat people. It's a shame you don't like being treated how you treat others... maybe that should spark a change in your attitude.
I welcome anyone to voice their opinions, all are welcome here- as long as they can respect one another. I still respect you and your views, but do not appreciate the insinuations made by you on MANY members of this forum. So, yeah, I'm going to stand up and say some things. It's about **** time they were said, too.
Sorry, just having a little fun. If you'd like to make any personal attacks, though, I seriously suggest taking them to PM, we can further discuss this and my deleting inappropriate posts.
Then, leave it alone. Simple as that. Again, if you have personal comments to make, do so in PM, you're on a slippery slope, my friend.
I am human enough to admit that I have made mistakes. I do believe I said I was not perfect. I am human enough to admit that- are you?
Yeah, I do have a right to delete any comments which I deem inappropriate-that includes mine and others. If you ever feel that you have made a comment that is inappropriate, please ask a mod and perhaps they can also delete it for you (but, somehow, I don't see that happening, I forget how perfect you are).
A mod is supposed to keep things civil, but this mod is sick and tired of the way you treat people. It's a shame you don't like being treated how you treat others... maybe that should spark a change in your attitude.
I welcome anyone to voice their opinions, all are welcome here- as long as they can respect one another. I still respect you and your views, but do not appreciate the insinuations made by you on MANY members of this forum. So, yeah, I'm going to stand up and say some things. It's about **** time they were said, too.
Sorry, just having a little fun.
If you'd like to make any personal attacks, though, I seriously suggest taking them to PM, we can further discuss this and my deleting inappropriate posts. Then, leave it alone. Simple as that. Again, if you have personal comments to make, do so in PM, you're on a slippery slope, my friend.
Oh my goodness. passive agressive insulting and attacks are just as bad as flat out, tell it like it is, insults and attacks.... perhaps it is even worse because it appears to me that if you want to say something SAY IT.... don't pussyfoot around it so that later you can say "well I didn't say those exact words" To me that is cowardly.... sorry but it is. I can't stand that passive aggressive nature. If you have something to say then just say it.... if you are too scared to say it like it is then you shouldn't say anything at all.
I don't EVER recall saying it was ok for "meat eaters" to say whatever insults it is they sling at you that has made you so angry. BUT two wrongs don't make a right..... you get insulted so that gives you immunity to insult back? NO it doesn't.
I don't have to go back and re read this whole thread to find your quotes where you were passive aggressive. YOU did so yourself. Now had someone else here said "meat eaters tend to have higher IQ's than vegans" I'm sure you would have taken offense to that.... then we could sit back and say "well I didn't use those exact words" it doesn't matter what words you used.... you basically said that if you eat meat you have a lower IQ.... yet you were not able to back those "facts" up with any kind of proof. therefore your statement was not only false... but inflammatory.
So while you may feel you are being attacked or treated unfairly... and perhaps you were... remember that you are not the innocent party in this.... YOU treated others just as unfairly as you are claiming you were treated. I don't understand how you can't see that.
And as for that whole "I have received PM's from others who think you are rude too" Bull.... That's ridiculous. there is ALWAYS going to be people on this board that side with you and there will ALWAYS be people on this board that side with BP. I know that BP ALSO received pm's stating how rude and ridiculous you are acting.... I was one of them. Get a grip. I'm assuming that those others you received pm's from are also on your side of the vegan vs meateaters debate. OF COURSE they feel they too are the victims.... it's unfortunate YOU had to open that can of worms and start slinging mud by passively aggressively telling us we are dumb and savages.
There is no side of this argument that is more or less guilty of mud slinging than the other side. the only difference is.... the meateaters seem to be able to own up to the things they said... you however, keep denying it when we all saw it with our own two eyes. own up to your mistakes.... don't try to elude them.
Hey that's not fair... I bet it is too. LOL not only am I a meat eater but i also have preggo brain. It says that a pregnant woman loses up to 8% of her brain mass during pregnancy lol. it's a wonder I am even able to turn the computer on and successfully operate it lol. Luckily I don't have to speak because then I am a blithering idiot LOL
We are responsible for everything we say in this world.We reap the consequences as well as the consolations. When we don't care what we say, we can expect to hear from those we say it to....in like and kind.
See above comment from me. And this kind of toxic remark is the reason you receive the kind of responses you see on this board. If you are going to dish it out, you had damned well better be able to take it. People might eventually forget what you say, but they will NEVER forget how you made them feel.
See above comment from me. And this kind of toxic remark is the reason you receive the kind of responses you see on this board. If you are going to dish it out, you had damned well better be able to take it. People might eventually forget what you say, but they will NEVER forget how you made them feel.
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Ok, see with your preggo brain, I totally win.
Especially with that quote of yours... ^
Tosca... here we were trying to have fun and you went and got serious on us...
We are indeed responsible for everything we say and it takes a lot of humble pie for a being to be able to admit when they are incredibly wrong and apologize, such as I did with mrose.
Mrose, if you read this, I certainly hope there are no ill feelings left from that thread, I feel that I explained myself to you and that we came to an understanding.
Now... where's my chocolate?
Excuse me..... could you not use such big words. Its hard for me to sound them out
Tosca... here we were trying to have fun and you went and got serious on us...
We are indeed responsible for everything we say and it takes a lot of humble pie for a being to be able to admit when they are incredibly wrong and apologize, such as I did with mrose.
Mrose, if you read this, I certainly hope there are no ill feelings left from that thread, I feel that I explained myself to you and that we came to an understanding.
Now... where's my chocolate?
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