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Laurelin

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I'm not sure who was asking what the risk is of Tessa not vaccinating but I think this article explains it pretty well.

Public Health Risk Seen as Parents Reject Vaccines

The way I understand it, most vaccines are not 100% effective so if an unvaccinated kid catches say, measles, the odds are good that not only are the other unvaccinated kids going to get it but some of the vaccinated ones as well. It also puts infants and people who can't receive vaccines at risk.
I think this bears repeating.
 

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Planning a baby vs a surprise pregnancy does not make one a better mom. Heck, planning a pregnancy does not even mean you will be a good mom. That'd be like saying all single moms are bad moms, since they don't have a daddy for their baby. People would fly off the handle if someone ever said that.

Is Breeze a bad mom? Both her pregnancies were unplanned.

Whether or not a baby is planned or not has very little (if nothing) to do with whether or not one will be a good mom, or a better or worse mom than anyone else.
You should probably just let this go Tessa. No one is saying that she is a "better mom" than you, you implied that yourself (once again, back to that ME mentality).

M&M does have more resources, knowledge, and REAL life experience than you. Also, she had the time to research and read during the time she was trying (that you did not have)
 

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I am saying it by pure deffination. Does that mean that Tessa is a bad mother, no. DOes it mean she is a better mother..NO. DOes that mean that a planned pg in an incomed home is better from the get go. Heck yes. YOu really need to reexamine the things you say.

BANgs head on wall...ever feel like your taking someone to the forest and saying LOOK TREES. Just to be repititious..

Tessa a planned baby to a family that have prepared, saved, wanted and dreamed of, does at least imo beat an unwed mother that has an oops baby with no no backup, no finances, no job, and so on. FRom the time of conception it makes them a better mother because they had the foresight to bring the baby into a world that is ready for them. Please crack your mind open to that and maybe other things will become more clear. I have no doubt you love Mason with all your heart and in your mind your doing everything right but think of this. WHat would happen if the dole was receeding or ceased all together? WHat will happen if a year down the line he gets really sick because you didn't? How much are you willing to bet your right and how will you feel if your wrong? WHo gets hurt the most?
 

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I just want to know what EXACTLY are the reasons you think you should not vaccinate Mason at all? What scientific studies backup your view.
 

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My XSIL didn't want to VAC my grandson either until she read what COULD happen when in school .
 

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Planning a baby vs a surprise pregnancy does not make one a better mom. Heck, planning a pregnancy does not even mean you will be a good mom. That'd be like saying all single moms are bad moms, since they don't have a daddy for their baby. People would fly off the handle if someone ever said that.

Is Breeze a bad mom? Both her pregnancies were unplanned.

Whether or not a baby is planned or not has very little (if nothing) to do with whether or not one will be a good mom, or a better or worse mom than anyone else.
Tessa, could you please stop this arguement here? First of all, I never claimed nor implied that I am a better mom than you are (for goodness sake, I'm not even a mom yet!). I just pointed out the very FACT that you're a young, still in school, inexperienced first time mom who still have a lot to learn, yet refuses to open her heart & mind to!. Yup, I'm totally new at motherhood and inexperienced, too - when I become mom in a few days (oh well, except that I've finished college about 14 years ago, and since then, have been working in a science field & that I cannot put myself in the "young people" catergory anymore :eek:. I do hope my background gives me an edge and helps ease me to the tasks at hand!)

The difference, I see, between us is that while I do belive I know more than you do (or at least, equally) about some stuffs as I've done my researches, too! - I've never claimed what I know is the absolute & only truth.

I forgot who said it.. but it's been said that when we close our mind and refuse to learn new things, we cease to exist.
 
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I planned one with the wrong man (20) . My second was an accident (24). IT made it hard on both of them and in the long run I ended up being the only parent they could count on. THat is as sad as it gets. My brother and his wife tried for 8 years. THey had time to cement their marriage and had done all the things they wanted to do. Paid for their house and had good careers. I only wish my children had half the advantages they had. YOu will know that down the line. My other brother was married first, had good jobs, and his children too did not have to grow up on the slippery slope. My son wants to write a book called Just below E. I am sad he has to know what living like that is all about.
 

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Respect is a 2 way stree Tessa. 1 you need to respect US by watching what you write in posts. You may or may not mean it, but you belittle most of us in your posts.

2nd you probably whont find a Dr that agrees with your Vacc ideas. Thats life, yes I know you know that. But you need to respect the 7+yrs olf medical school behind your Dr and thier opinion, as well as they need to respect yours

I wasnt Vacc for chicken pox. My parents didnt think it was nessisary. I mean its just chicken pox right? I spent 2 weeks in the ICU in grade 3. Most of it in a coma because I got Chicken pox. After I couldnt move because of the blisters and sores. My parents spent the entire time fealing SO guilty because if they would have gotten my Vacc then I would have only spent a week sick at home.

I think you need to think of the long term risks or NOT vacc, not just the risks of Vacc.
 

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She may find it very difficult to find a doctor who agrees with not vaccinating, but it is not too much to ask to have a doctor who will not treat her poorly because of her decision. I think that's what she wants.
 

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I am not saying that I think tessa is a bad mom. I will only say that I disagree with almost every parenting choice she has ever posted about on chaz. This is coming from an experienced parent (nearly 25 years between the two kids).
 

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She may find it very difficult to find a doctor who agrees with not vaccinating, but it is not too much to ask to have a doctor who will not treat her poorly because of her decision. I think that's what she wants.
But, you see, if you watch the way that she reacts to others' opinions on Chaz, you can easily see the way she most likely reacts to a doctor that disagrees with her opinion.

My guess is she closes up, and automatically is convinced that the doctor is out to get her and rude and belittling, YADDA YADDA. It is the way she reacts in every single thread on here, why would it be any different when confronted by a doctor with HER SON'S best interest in mind?
 

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She may find it very difficult to find a doctor who agrees with not vaccinating, but it is not too much to ask to have a doctor who will not treat her poorly because of her decision. I think that's what she wants.
Yeah but the get respect you have to earn it. If she's anything like she posts on here, I wouldn't want to be her doctor no matter what her views on vaccinating were. But personally I just think she's an "internet badass" and will leave it at that.
 

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Respect is a 2 way stree Tessa. 1 you need to respect US by watching what you write in posts. You may or may not mean it, but you belittle most of us in your posts.

2nd you probably whont find a Dr that agrees with your Vacc ideas. Thats life, yes I know you know that. But you need to respect the 7+yrs olf medical school behind your Dr and thier opinion, as well as they need to respect yours

I wasnt Vacc for chicken pox. My parents didnt think it was nessisary. I mean its just chicken pox right? I spent 2 weeks in the ICU in grade 3. Most of it in a coma because I got Chicken pox. After I couldnt move because of the blisters and sores. My parents spent the entire time fealing SO guilty because if they would have gotten my Vacc then I would have only spent a week sick at home.

I think you need to think of the long term risks or NOT vacc, not just the risks of Vacc.
THat is what I am taking about. My son couldn't move either and was a hair's breath from being admitted. I was boiling the t-shirts and sheet to try to keep the risk of infection down but the doctor said with a case that bad it would have happened no matter what I did. I am sorry you were that sick, it is miserable. THe man i took care of got encephalitis. IT destroyed his brain. Right in his chart it said due to chicken pox. I read it with my own two eyes.
 
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