I Am Angry And I Don't Care Who Gets Mad !!!!!!

[Charliesmommy]

and IF you have a dog that is in peril.......you can't afford 'doc only wants your wallet vet'.......put that dog to sleep. now......be a good doggie parent.

Or surrender the dog to a rescue or a shelter where they will provide the medical treatment. The dog may end up PTS, but that would be better than having it suffer until it dies a horrible death.

Once again, Debi, you are ignoring many of the suggestions that people have given in order to make your point.

 

[lakotasong]

I, too, think that pet ownership should be a privilege and not a right.

If you can't afford it, don't do it. Too bad, so sad.

I feel no sympathy, at all, for people who put themselves in a horrible position with a pet that they could have prevented by being more realistic about their financial abilities.

And I have absolutely no respect, at all, for people who will do nothing but sit and watch a dog suffer - regardless of who it belongs to.

If having this opinion makes me an @$$hole to some of you then so be it. I frankly don't care and if I had the address of the owners of the dog in question, I'd report them for cruelty faster than you can blink.

 

[Laurelin]

Yes, if you have a dog that is suffering like some of these I have seen and you can't afford vet care, then yes, either put it down or take it to a shelter.

Yes, if you can't afford basic care of a pet at this time, then you shouldn't be getting a pet at this time.

Hm... I guess I'm just cold and caloused.

Who'd have thought, when you get a pet you should be able to care for them.

 

[Melissa_W]

I think it would be very wrong to get a pet you can't afford and then neglect it because you need love.

You don't need to be rich, you can even be poor. But you have to be willing to make sacrifices and take care of the dogs needs.

and I will relent to the statement that 'if you can't afford them, don't have them'. period. don't come crying to us if you are in need...take it to a shelter. don't have a dog if you can't afford it. put money in the bank for vet care to make sure you are responsible enough. but..do NOT get a dog for love...if you don't have cash..don't do it. if you're poor..put that dog to sleep now. save it from suffering further. I have enough money to have 2 dogs.....I am great. I spoil my dogs......I am great. but...IF you are poor...do NOT get a dog..EVER. I don't care if you can afford the routine check-ups, shots. if you don't have cash in the bank..you are a lousey prospective pet owner...don't do it. there..I feel better...having said what we feel..........right?

 

[sparks19]

What if you have the means when you get a pet and life suddenly throws you a curve ball and you are struggling to even feed you and your pet for time being..... should you surrender your pet because you can no longer afford the same luxuries you were able to afford before? Lots of people say if you can't afford it don't get a pet.... but lots of people get a pet when they CAN afford it and then crap happens and they end up in a bad situation.... should everyone that is in a bad situation automatically give up their pets because they can't afford them IF something were to happen?

I can guarantee THAT would fill up the shelters pretty darn fast.

 

[Melissa_W]

Of course not, but if something does happen, the dog is suffering, and you can't fix it, you have to do SOMETHING.

What if you have the means when you get a pet and life suddenly throws you a curve ball and you are struggling to even feed you and your pet for time being..... should you surrender your pet because you can no longer afford the same luxuries you were able to afford before? Lots of people say if you can't afford it don't get a pet.... but lots of people get a pet when they CAN afford it and then crap happens and they end up in a bad situation.... should everyone that is in a bad situation automatically give up their pets because they can't afford them IF something were to happen?

I can guarantee THAT would fill up the shelters pretty darn fast.

 

[smkie]

ever feel like this thread is going round and round..i got round like a circle in a spiral like a wheel within a wheel never ending or beginning like the ever spinning wheel going through my head. So we are all agreed...if you can't have the vet..don't have the pet. In the meantime people have vented their feelings about people that do and dont and their frustration at hearing about it. WE have stated that we don't want people to be afraid to ask for help, and stated how we feel when we are helpless to change the fact that help isn't being offered. People have offered suggestions and i think pet insurance was the one good thing that came out of this. At least something good came out of this.

 

[Laurelin]

No, you shouldn't automatically give up your pet if something like that happens. People end up in horrible situations. I'd hope then that someone would be able to help and you'd try everything you could and explain to the vet and try to find low cost helath care.

If the animal is suffering and you cannot care for it any more, then I guess that'd be the absolute last resort. Hopefully you've exhausted your other choices first. Letting a dog suffer is just not acceptable.

Though what gets me is the people unwilling to sacrifice their luxuries to care for the dog. I know people like this. they complain about neding money for something essential (not even just a dog) and they NEVER have money for those things, yet when they have money they spend it on games or movies or something.

 

[sparks19]

Of course not, but if something does happen, the dog is suffering, and you can't fix it, you have to do SOMETHING.

I agree.... but I'm just saying so many people are jumping to the conclusion that everyone who can't afford vet care got the dog knowing they couldn't afford the care.... how do they know something drastic (like the death of your husband) didn't happen to change your living situation.

Trust me, if there were ANYTHING we could have done to save Teddy and allowed him to still have a quality life.... we would have. EVEN though we have a new baby coming. but that just wasn't possible. BUT.... that is easy for me to say because we had the means to do so.

 

[Laurelin]

I agree.... but I'm just saying so many people are jumping to the conclusion that everyone who can't afford vet care got the dog knowing they couldn't afford the care.... how do they know something drastic (like the death of your husband) didn't happen to change your living situation.

My saying that only people who should afford to have dogs was in response to:

I'm just agreeing with the masses.......don't have money.......do NOT get a dog. ever. period......you can't afford it. you don't deserve to have a pet unless you have cash. I said it..I agree with you all...I am filled with love.

Obviously if you don't have money enough for a dog then you shouldn't go get a dog, even if you love it. You need to think about it from not only a matter of loving it but also of practicality.

Obviously accidents happen, things come up you never would have predicted. That's a different case.

We went through so much this last year with my sister having to be tested for all sorts of things and all sorts of therapy. She was premature and has some delays and it was so expensive. No one could have forseen that, no one could've prepared. We were lucky that we were able to pay the big amounts of change (and we're talking huge amounts) that the tests required. I honestly always thought about it and wondered what most people would do about it. It doesn't seem fair that we could afford the best care though the others would have to use the school therapist and wait a year for the tests when the child really needed them now. Okay, off topic again.

 

[Debi]

I think we should just lock this thread. it isn't productive at all. I agree with everyone....so let there be peace........and lock this thread now.

and may we all be rich enough to afford the love a dog brings to our hearts. may we all know the joy our dogs give us. bless us with money for this, dear Lord.

 

[Dizzy]

Don't have money - don't get a dog?

That's ridiculous.

Pets are not items for the priviledged.

Some people don't have money, but they do their best.

Perhaps you should all put your energy and ideas into setting up a charity that helps people with low income to get medical care for their pets?

Just an idea.

 

[Laurelin]

I think we should just lock this thread. it isn't productive at all. I agree with everyone....so let there be peace........and lock this thread now.

and may we all be rich enough to afford the love a dog brings to our hearts. may we all know the joy our dogs give us. bless us with money for this, dear Lord.

I could just as easily say something along the lines of 'And let it be okay for me to neglect this animal and watch it suffer simply because I needed to have it even though I was not properly able to care for it.'

 

[Renee750il]

Every Single Solitary One of You . .

On both sides of this issue, read this:

http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=384

And don't come back and post in this thread until you have.

 

[Charliesmommy]

I don't know where Sam is now, but I do know that I did the best I could to find him a good home, and in my mind, he's stretched out on a nice brick patio somewhere, in the shade, with healthy ears, and no fleas, and I hope that someday he thinks of us and remembers the good times we had together, and doesn't hold it against me that I couldn't do better by him.

Or he was sold to a laboratory and is currently having experiments conducted on him.

 

[Dizzy]

Or he was sold to a laboratory and is currently having experiments conducted on him.

There's no pleasing you is there?

 

[lakotasong]

On both sides of this issue, read this:

http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=384

And don't come back and post in this thread until you have.

Lovely

 

[Debi]

and what? I am supposed to feel horrible for posting what I feel? ok..then again........I go with 'the flow'..all are correct, and I am stupid. I am again grateful that I have 2 dogs, and the money to care for them. therefore....I am amazing....I am a wonderful 'owner'. I deserve to have pet ownership.

whatever.......

 

[Fruit bat]

Renee, That story is my point exactly. Painful choice , YES. The animal should not lay in pain and suffer. Thats what this is about. Now I am probably back at the top of everyones sh!t list because I spoke out against a mod. I do not think that money is required, but I do draw the line with it when they can't get enough together to get it to the vet when it is peeing blood. When it is like that then you should surrender the dog. That is my problem with this. There are shelters with drop boxes. The animal would either get the antibiotics it needs or it would be PTS. Cripes if you had to be rich to have a pet , I wouldn't have one.

 

[sparks19]

Obviously you REALLY missed the point of that thread posted by Renee.

Such a sad story. for EVERYONE involved.