I Am Angry And I Don't Care Who Gets Mad !!!!!!

smkie

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That is what i mean. Yes it is the internet, and it is sickening to read these, i know. I get so weary of the i am right you are wrong training posts that i had quit going there all together until i was nudged back. YEt i can hope that if even one person reads something i write, and tries it, and it works for them, then it wasn't a waste of my time. And if reading that i don't have money to go to the vet..(something that hit home hard last month for me..i went..and now i am struggling to survive) then let it push you to work a little harder on the home front. I believe i am a good pet owner. I believe i take good care of my animals. I cannot have another, unless my health takes a u turn for the better and that is just a dirty rotten shame. I would make a good fosterhome, but i can't do the vet bills. IF it were not for my clinic i couldn't even have Victor. What i am saying is to let the drama fall away but keep the problem in focus. I watched that horrible horrible film on google video called EARTHLINGS. I can't take a bite of hardly anything meatwise without feeling sick and i cried for two days. I kid you not, i knew it was bad, but i had no idea it was THAT BAD. It was horrible to watch and i wanted to turn it off but told myself to stop being a hypocrite. If your going to be a consumer you ought to know how those animals came about for you to consume. Looking away made it easy for me, looking at the problem made me change. We have the same problem with our human medicine. Sharing knowledge and combining our efforts will be far more beneficial and our only hope out of this money cell we have forced ourselves in. OK i will get off my soapbox i am sorry...i am becoming redundant i know.
 
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ToscasMom, yes, you are right. If I had something like that on my hands, the animal would be at the vet ASAP. There are some things that cannot be handled at home and if one doesn't have the money for the treatment, that would be better putting the animal down rather than let it suffer.
 

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I love when people decide to drive the high and mighty road. and yes..that's exactly what you do when you fault people.....you vent....you rage...but you don't KNOW the situation. someone very poor may love their dog with their entire being...well EXCUSE ME if they don't have handy dandy overpriced vet money on hand. vets are generally a huge ripoff...but I'm straying from my thought.....so they come here asking for help. why?? because they are trying to do something. I pity you for feeling so superior that you can't feel anything for that person. get off your high horse. maybe they make you ill..maybe I feel sorry for their situation. it's easy to judge when you're sitting comfy behind your screen. give some people a break.
 

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I hardly think I am on a high horse because I feel sickened because an animal is being abused. Regardless of the situation abuse is wrong in any shape or form.
 
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Ok maybe I need to explain myself a bit more clearly. First I have no intention on leaving Chaz far from it. I hope that by my letting these people know how I feel about their lack of compassion for the animal or their willingness to sit back and say they are out of options makes them think. If you are out of options then you sure have not explored all your options or you are afraid that doing the right thing will cause you to loose something else. I for one can sleep well at night knowing that I have helped a tired, hurt , injured animal get free from it's pain or an owner of said animal to see themselves and change it. What I can not do is to sit and say poor you as I read that you are doing nothing and yet read all that you have done for yourself. Some people have no money due to things changing after they took in an animal that is true but to sit in front of a computer that can be hocked, rings that can be hocked, etc is to me greed and self indulgence and not caring for the pet. Sitting and continually posting about what you can not do instead of getting on the phone and surrendering the pet is inexcusable. Sitting on the internet instead of getting out and collecting cans to get the animal help in my opinion is inexcusable. I have been in financial ruin and yet let one person step forward and say that my kids or pets were ever without treatment. I did go collect cans !! I washed toilets so do not say it can not be say the actual truth that you are too lazy to get off your can and make it happen !!! I have to see dozens of animals everyday who for no reason are facing a needle because of neglect. I pay out of my own pocket to help these animals. I spend hours and hours calling and emailing to get these guys to a new home or in a foster home. I sit many a day holding the paw of one who has to die because it is beyond help. Do my part ? There are those who are here who know I go above and beyond doing my part. If this reaches but one who sees themselves here then again I have done my part. If you can put yourself behind the needs of that animal for even a minute and realize that animal has no options but you then I have done my part. If you know that you can not afford to get that animal vetted and that it is suffering and dying and just sit back then you are a monster not worthy of my compassion !! If you know it needs help and you can not get it surrender it so that it can be helped even if the help it gets is to end it's life at least it is no longer suffering. That is love !!! If you have been guilty in the past of this and have learned from your wrongs then that is a good thing. If you continue to put a pet on hold while you enjoy your life you are evil and that is the long and short of it.
 

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I love when people decide to drive the high and mighty road. and yes..that's exactly what you do when you fault people.....you vent....you rage...but you don't KNOW the situation. someone very poor may love their dog with their entire being...well EXCUSE ME if they don't have handy dandy overpriced vet money on hand. vets are generally a huge ripoff...but I'm straying from my thought.....so they come here asking for help. why?? because they are trying to do something. I pity you for feeling so superior that you can't feel anything for that person. get off your high horse. maybe they make you ill..maybe I feel sorry for their situation. it's easy to judge when you're sitting comfy behind your screen. give some people a break.

Sorry, but I have zero sympathy for anyone who neglects their pets. I don't care how poor you are, there are always options. Believe me, I am certainly not swimming in money, but like I said before, I would surrender my pets to a rescue or shelter before I would let them go without medical treatment if they were suffering.
 
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I love when people decide to drive the high and mighty road. and yes..that's exactly what you do when you fault people.....you vent....you rage...but you don't KNOW the situation. someone very poor may love their dog with their entire being...well EXCUSE ME if they don't have handy dandy overpriced vet money on hand. vets are generally a huge ripoff...but I'm straying from my thought.....so they come here asking for help. why?? because they are trying to do something. I pity you for feeling so superior that you can't feel anything for that person. get off your high horse. maybe they make you ill..maybe I feel sorry for their situation. it's easy to judge when you're sitting comfy behind your screen. give some people a break.
Excuse me ??? We are talking about a dog bleeding and it has gone on for a week. If you see an excuse for that you shouldn't be a pet owner either.
And aren't you the one who was just complaining about someone dumping a dog near your house ?
 
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Aussie, I totally feel ya there. But on a side note I can't help but wonder if you are talking of me too.

The only reason is because I said that my vet is out of town as well. I remember a thread where someone else said it as well, but I still can't get this out of my head.

I just want you to know that I do love my dog. I have paid out the nose for her ER Vet care (for a vet that does house calls) when she was poisoned by licking/eating a toad. I feed her only the top food, and I would chop off my arm and hand it to a vet as payment if need be.

If you aren't referring to me, disregard this, and just know that I am totally with ya on this one.
 

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I love when people decide to drive the high and mighty road. and yes..that's exactly what you do when you fault people.....you vent....you rage...but you don't KNOW the situation. someone very poor may love their dog with their entire being...well EXCUSE ME if they don't have handy dandy overpriced vet money on hand. vets are generally a huge ripoff...but I'm straying from my thought.....so they come here asking for help. why?? because they are trying to do something. I pity you for feeling so superior that you can't feel anything for that person. get off your high horse. maybe they make you ill..maybe I feel sorry for their situation. it's easy to judge when you're sitting comfy behind your screen. give some people a break.
This isn't a small something that's going on, it's very serious medical conditions.

I know I'm fortunate that we don't have to worry about vet payments. We were ready to spend thousands on Harry's MRI and everything it took to save him. Unfortunatley it didn't work. I also understand most people couldn't have paid for all that with no notice. There's nothing wrong with that. At least take your animal in so they can be euthanized, don't just watch them suffer needlessly.

There's no way I could watch that happen to my dogs.
 

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I don't mean anyone in particular. I just got a headache...it seems like pointing a finger at this person or that person is so pointless. THe baby is already here..lets love it, and do our best to make the world a better place for it (you know what i mean) instead of blaming those that made it happen. Instead of turning on each other. I got no answers for anything like this.Shakes head and walks away.
 

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Excuse me ??? We are talking about a dog bleeding and it has gone on for a week. If you see an excuse for that you shouldn't be a pet owner either.
And aren't you the one who was just complaining about someone dumping a dog near your house ?
don't you dare start with me. I KNOW how frustrating it is to read those posts. for heaven's sake...I moderate the health forum. BUT...sometimes..and OH MY GOD..I'm soooo sorry if it pains you...people need help. GOD FORBID..they love their dog..it is sick..they have no freakin money....they come here to ask for any help. is it the best thing to do..OF COURSE IT ISN'T, PEOPLE. but get off your superior high horse for one moment. it's easy to say...AND A NO-BRAINER....A VET IS BEST. so..that said...uh..again........how dare you judge someone that loves their dog. loves them to the max..yet something terrible happens when they have no extra money on hand. how dare you judge them. and don't you EVER tell me I shouldn't be a pet owner.....that makes me sick. so they come to a dog forum to ask.....maybe..just MAYBE that's their only option at that moment. compassion?? ever hear of the word?????

oh no..don't you dare start with me about being a good pet owner..I'll rip you apart.
 

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While I am not a fan of letting an animal suffer by any means..... I will say this.

I will NOT put my child on the back burner for someone ELSE'S irresponsible behaviour. Because someone ELSE cannot care for their dog. sorry.... I feel bad for the pet but that pet is NOT mine. I have a child to care for FIRST. PERIOD. I will NOT EVER EVER EVER put my child's needs behind my mothers pet. It is unfair of anyone to tell this poster what they should do with someone else's pet ESPECIALLY unfair of this posters MOTHER to ask her to do this. I'm sorry but if it were my mothers pet (whom I do love dearly) and she had wasted all her money away and came to me and said I need the money and I did not have it without risking my husbands job.... she wouldn't get it.... PERIOD. Sorry if that makes me evil.... but I personally don't give a sh!t if you think that.... my child comes FIRST and a loooooooong first before someone else's responsibility. Perhaps that means I should get rid of my own pets because I won't foot the bill for someone else's pet because CLEARLY that makes me a terrible owner and not a dog lover.

NOW that being said.... I will do everything I can to take care of my pets when they need care.

Lilprairie.... I do agree with you somewhat. I remember when Teddy cut his foot on glass at the river we rushed him to the emerg vet because he was bleeding terribly. They didn't even look at it and they wanted $700 to do surgery. HA NO. then they wanted $400 just to clean it. HA NO. I'm perfectly capable of providing first aid thank you. We had them give him an antibiotic shot and went on our way. We made a vet appt with our regular vet on Monday. We took Teddy home.... put him in the tub and thouroughly cleaned the wound.... and then we bandaged it. We took him to our vet on Monday, he looked at the wound and was astounded that the emergency vet had given the "diagnosis" for surgery. There was nothing to fix.... He skinned off a piece of the pad.... the only thing that could be done? Thourough cleaning, bandaging and antibiotics to prevent infection. He sent us on our way to clean it and bandage it until the wound was healed. In that case (other than the antibiotics) we were perfectly capable of doing the care ourselves. We just saw the blood and panicked and almost got taken for a large sum of money.... for NOTHING. Worst of all they wanted to put Teddy under.... that is dangerous on it's own let alone when it is totally unnessecary.

Just a final note..... you should always get care for YOUR pet when they need it no matter what... even if it means surrenduring them. but I certainly would not tolerate being called EVIL or ABUSIVE because I am not footing the bill for someone else.
 

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Holy moly... can we tone it down here a bit? How did we get from being compassionate about animals to threatening each other?

It is not about who is the best owner here... it is about finding ways to help your pet. I am aware that people sadly do not have the option to take their dog to the vet. I don't agree with having a dog when you can't provide for it, but that is my own opinion.
It is about doing what is best for your pet. If I would know that my dog is in pain and I couldn't afford to take it to the vet and I couldn't make it happen in any way, I'd give it up to help it. I'd be calling every rescue, every shelter to help my animal out. That is what it is about.
 
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don't you dare start with me. I KNOW how frustrating it is to read those posts. for heaven's sake...I moderate the health forum. BUT...sometimes..and OH MY GOD..I'm soooo sorry if it pains you...people need help. GOD FORBID..they love their dog..it is sick..they have no freakin money....they come here to ask for any help. is it the best thing to do..OF COURSE IT ISN'T, PEOPLE. but get off your superior high horse for one moment. it's easy to say...AND A NO-BRAINER....A VET IS BEST. so..that said...uh..again........how dare you judge someone that loves their dog. loves them to the max..yet something terrible happens when they have no extra money on hand. how dare you judge them. and don't you EVER tell me I shouldn't be a pet owner.....that makes me sick. so they come to a dog forum to ask.....maybe..just MAYBE that's their only option at that moment. compassion?? ever hear of the word?????

oh no..don't you dare start with me about being a good pet owner..I'll rip you apart.
OK maybe I came off wrong and for that I'm sorry. But my compassion is for a poor dog that is dying from an extremely painful UTI. ? Do you know what this thread was started for ? There has been a ton of compassion shown and the OP Is not doing anything. It just makes me sick to know that they are all going to sit back and watch it die.
 

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