I Am Angry And I Don't Care Who Gets Mad !!!!!!

[Fruit bat]

Well here's a different spin on it , maybe. No names but a few months back there was a litter of kittens with horrible eye infections , and it came out that the person also allowed a ferret to starve to death, She is still here posting away like nothing happened. ( she is mostly ignored but the newbies don't know about it)
we have a cat attacked by a pack of dogs, It sounds dire, No vet. Then later it sounds like it was not as bad. Overinflated story to gain " HUGS ".
Another dog has had blood in its urine for over a week. OP can't do anything.
What am I getting at ? Is it possible that they are all very young and are just creating DRAMA ???

IF SO I HOPE THEY READ THIS AND CUT THE CRAP ! The kittens costed a member money, who could least afford it in my opinion. It shows outstanding character that she would go out of her way and help like she did.
For those who don't know, Aussie RED is my mother, I see first hand what happens when people don't care. She did not need Oscar. But he was used as a breeder for 9YRS! DUMPED !What happens...He will be PTS because of his age so now what???

 

[lakotasong]

Aussie Red, I hear you and agree whole-heartedly. (((((HUG))))) You are not alone in your feelings. Thank you for speaking up!

 

[Fruit bat]

Let me add here. I live in fear of one of my animals getting hurt. I can't really afford to drop several hundred dollars and maintain all of the other stuff. But you can bet your @ss if one of my dogs were to be attacked or became ill, you all wouldn't be hearing from me because my satellite and internet got shut off. That stuff isn't as important. **** I'd at least be able to come up with the funds to have a dog euth. rather than see it suffer.

 

[ToscasMom]

are you refering to my thread about my cat?

Just to relieve your concern, no. You asked advice and did what you had to do for your cat. We all often do this. You animal was not in an emergency such as bleeding daily from its bladder or lying there cold while you tell us you are going to go watch it die now.

What we are speaking of are drama queens, sympathy seekers and downright irresponsible pet owners who post threads of their pets in horrible condition, complete with sordid details, while they revel in the joy of watching us squirm as they allow their animals to suffer. We are speaking of despicable acts of negligence, in some cases so outrageous the one even wonders if it is true or if somebody is trolling for some money from sympathetic and honest pet lovers.

 

[Jules]

are you refering to my thread about my cat? http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61617

Erica, I think I can assure you that nobody meant you and your cat!

 

[Charliesmommy]

What we are speaking of are drama queens, sympathy seekers and downright irresponsible pet owners who post threads of their pets in horrible condition, complete with sordid details, while they revel in the joy of watching us squirm as they allow their animals to suffer. We are speaking of descpicable acts of negligence, in some cases so outrageous the one even wonders if it is true or if somebody is trolling for some money from sympathetic and honest pet lovers.

If you want sympathy, just ask for it - I did. And without having some horrible story about how I abuse/neglect my pet.

 

[Erica1989]

thank you... I wasn't sure if you were talking about me or not....

I see lots of posts about dogs bleeding profusley, vomiting, and those really **** me off, I rarely respond unless to say "GO TO THE VET"

I know there are some people who would concider my cat "to the e-clinic NOW" but that was just not the case. And I certainly wasn't asking for money! People really do that?! wow.

 

[ToscasMom]

Hugs to you Erica. You have lucky pets.

 

[Erica1989]

haha, thanks. and don't they know it... spoiled rotten things.... =]
people love when I dog/cat sit for them, their pets get prime treatment

to add to the OP's rant a little... I get calls at the shelter I work at all the time, 'I have no money, can you fix my dog?' No! Why? We have over 150 dogs in our care at one time, and who knows how many cats! We used to have an aid-a-pet program, if you ran into trouble, we would pay the vet costs, and you would pay us back. We had to stop the program, people stopped paying us back. If people want us to treat their pets, they must sign them over. We are not staffed as a vet clinic, and we cannot afford to! we are a not for profit agency, and recieve no tax money. No money from HSUS either, believe it or not.
Some people don't deserve the love that an animal will give, but pets don't know any better. They love no matter what.

 

[Jules]

I just don't know what to say anymore. You know, people on this board pull together when there's an emergency; either people call rescues and shelters to find a member's dumped dog and save it... or we send certain "leftover" treatments to people who can't afford to buy it... or we rally together and support a cause financially. And I think people start taking advantage of this.

It aches my heart to hear about a dog suffer like this- I am on the verge to scream "stop! Give me your address and let me send you a check!" - but will it be really for a sick dog? I am skeptic and I think it is sad that I, all of us, have to be.

We spent hundreds of $ on two stray kittens we found. I didn't even want to keep them, and one of them sadly didn't make it. We are keeping the other one, because after weeks of getting up in the middle of the night and feeding a little with a syringe, I can't think of giving the little one up. So why can't people be committed to the animal they picked out? They wanted to have? I just don't understand.

My heart dog is sick (just a tummy bug) and it is breaking my heart seeing her like this- I can't even imagine how it must feel like if she were seriously ill. I would rather fast than have her suffer. How cold and distanced do people have to be to allow this?

 

[smkie]

At the same time i don't want someone to be afraid to ask for help. No matter what, i don't think you can have one without the other. If you can't handle it emotionally, don't open the threads. It is always your option. I think we do a great service here for those that really need it. I could walk around the block and point out a dozen things i think wrong with people and their pets. I can't change it, i can't change the slaughter houses either other then to alter my diet. No one should have to suffer but they do. We do too. All we can do is offer a hand and hope to make a difference, shoving our personal feelings aside. If it really makes you mad, come up with a plan to help. Complaining and pointing fingers is just stirring what all ready stinks.

 

[lilprairiemutt]

You know, if people don't have the money for the vet, maybe they should take the time to learn how to do it themselves. If its not a surgical situation or something like that. Find a good farm vet and they will help you. Our vet is a farm vet and knows that alot of farmers don't go for expensive vet visits. They learn how to do things themselves, they can't afford to call the vet everytime a cow needs a calf pulled or the dog is sick. Last spring we had puppy we took in who had parvo. We took him to vet to get him tested to make sure then we bought the fluids and the needles from our vet and kept him on sub q fluids and gave him penecillin to keep a secondary infection from starting up and boostered the other dogs again for it just in case. The pup came through it just fine and now has a wonderful home where he is learning to be a livestock gaurdian(he is a great pyr pup) from an older more experienced dog.

It can be done. We vet our goats ourselves. Even when we had a two week old doeling get sick and had to stay in the house for almost a month. We had to treat her for infection by giving her pen shots twice a day, probios by mouth and a vit b shot two hours after every pen shot to keep the bacteria levels in gut right and sub q fluids to keep her hydrated since she was barely taking any off the bottle. The doeling also got better and is doing great.

 

[ToscasMom]

Smkie, the thing is, it's the internet, so how can you do anything about something half way across country. It's not like you can just drive over and help out personally. It's not like you can go and see if the person is full of crap either. But to read the accounts ad nauseum is an infuriating thing. It's impossible to come up with a plan without anything tangible and real to check out.

I think that plenty of people ask for help here and they get it. If someone tells most people that this looks like a vet situation ASAP, most NORMAL people take the advice. It's one thing to come ask for advice and it's another to come here and ask us to watch you let your pet die in agony. It's just too much for a normal human being with feelings to bear is all I am saying. If it's true, it's cruel to the animal. If it's an attention-seeking lie, then it's cruel to us.

 

[Charliesmommy]

You know, if people don't have the money for the vet, maybe they should take the time to learn how to do it themselves.

Unfortunately, I think that's a disaster waiting to happen for many people. I'm sorry, but I've seen many, many people who are just not smart enough.

 

[lilprairiemutt]

You are probably right.

 

[ToscasMom]

lilprairie, some things just need vets though, yes? Like if your dog were bleeding from the bladder for a week straight, would you continue to handle this yourself? Of course not, because you have good sense.

 

[smkie]

If something bothers me i can't change, i look around for what i can. AT least the previous action creates some kind of postive outcome. Our art unleashed raised 50 thousand dollars for lower income household pets to be able to have preventative care. Each year i try hard to give them the very best i can. I can't change the chained dogs in our neighborhood, or the people that leave their pet alone outside while they leave town and i have to listen to continious fear barking. I can however sit down and do something that makes me feel like i am making a difference somewhere. By writing on here i feel that i am handing down the best of my experiences for anyone that wants to share in what i have learned. Focusing on the negative only brings me further down and depresses me, making me feel like what is the point. It is hard enough to not feel like that about the whole human race. Getting out there and doing something however lifts my spirits and gives me a hope that somehow i made something better. My total for AU is a little over three thousand dollars. I don't have any cash to spare, but i do have time. THere are a million ways you can do something that would help, you just have to pick one. If people do not feel they can come here and say my pet is sick, i am over my head and i dont' know what to do...be they drama queens or not, by turning our back we are rejecting the actually animal that is in distress. I have seen Chazzers pull together and make some miracles happen. If they donated their own effort or money, it is because they personally took the initiative to do that. I don't believe anyone has the right to bring that up here in this thread. It was done because they wanted to not because they chose to have it brought up in a negative way. All that does is bring shame which is pointless. Try to look at the whole picture, not just the pieces of it. The problem is huge and only by our efforts with either funds, or time, determination, and imagination will we ever make a difference for anyone. IF you are frustrated, find an outlet that will make you feel better. AS the economy dips deeper this problem is only going to escalate. Call your humane society and see if there is a way you can help. THat is what they are all about.

 

[ToscasMom]

Smkie if you are talking about doing things on your own like you do, well I am in. I am actively involved in these kinds of things from where I am. I don't have your talent, so I donate my time, my home and my own money taking care of animals that are victims such as the ones we have had to see on this board. I may not talk about it much, but I have seen much. But if you are talking about what we can do with some of the threads we are referring to on this board, you can see this is not possible because there is nothing tangible we can do but watch and listen to this stuff unfold.

 

[squirtsmom]

Way to go Aussie. I agree completely. My animals are spoiled rotten, and i would do wit5hout before they wou ld.

 

[Charliesmommy]

There are maybe 20 or so Chazzers that I feel I know well enough that I would happily give money to if they needed it. Other than that, sorry, but how do I know you are not scamming me? And as far as donating time, I don't see how any amount of my time is going to help somebody 5 states away who has a dog that needs to go to the vet.