Decided to rehome bruno
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If you are panicing please please get onto the UK dog rescue pages - if anyone can help it will be them! Why wait until it becomes very urgent? One of the rescues on there maybe able to offer practicle help with rehoming, they may also help with assessing him to see why he is like he is.
Im not sure why your waiting to ask for help if your in a panic because there is help out there in the UK, again can I ask where you are situated?
Im not sure why your waiting to ask for help if your in a panic because there is help out there in the UK, again can I ask where you are situated?
I know BP sounds harsh here but she is really right. I don't understand why a novice dog owner would take on so much dog, knowing fully well that some real training and some real leadership was going to have to be provided to the dog??? Or why someone would take a previous owner's word without first spending a day with the dog to see if the dog was what he was described to be. Or why someone so short of money so as to be dependent on a temporary boyfriend would imagine that she could afford this dog or any dog for that matter--as a lifetime commitment. He was taken home without any planning, no forthought or consideration for the future and no ability to properly train him and care for his basic needs. This poor dog has been set up for failure. That's the real tragedy here.
I dont condone giving away the dog because of what could of been forseen money issues or behavior problems, but atleast as far as the $$ situation, she is willing to let the dog go to a home where he can be taken care of , where its aparent that she can no longer do that for the dog. Would you rather her keep the dog, and not be able to either feed him or give him the proper vet. care when he needs it?
But she can't afford to keep the dog, if she does keep it what happens if it gets really sick or injured and she can't pay for the bills, that's not fair for the dog. I think she should of put in more thought into getting a dog because they aren't disposable, but if you can't properly care for the dog give the dog another chance, at least she's not just dumping it at the nearest pound.
That is true, but really it's true in hindsight not forsight. Let's think about what we have here. We have a fear aggressive dog who should have been to a behaviorist immediately. That didn't happen. And it's not happening now. We have a dog that not only is fear aggressive, but even the ability to feed him is now in question. So now, who is going to adopt this dog before he bites someone and gets written off as a "vicious dog"? This dog could easily end up in a shelter waiting for the needle and we all know it. Shades of Binn. Sorry but that's how I feel. So I will run along now.
I dont think this thread has turned into a " state your opinion and run away" thread..... honestly the dog's future is not looking too bright, this is true. And is it the owners fault? Yes, imo, it could all be prevented. But... it wasn't. And its not going to. So her best bet is to try and find someone who can give this dog the mental/physical care it needs, and behavorially too. Sadly, finding a home to take on that responsibility is few and far between, but again, I feel for the owner, even thou she has put the dog in this situation herself.
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Yes, I am being harsh. I hate to see dogs simply disposed of when all of a sudden they can not be provided for. A dog is a life. Not something to buy/adopt/rescue on a whim and think hey cool! and then decide you can't hang with all of the responsibility anymore.
If any of you had a child would you shrug your shoulders at it when it was known to have a disability and then give it up for adoption or what have you when you just couldn't bear the responsibility of a choice YOU made. I would certainly hope NOT.
I would NEVER, NEVER, give up any of my dogs. I would rather eat ramen all day than give my dogs up. It's called unconditional love- my dogs show it to me every **** day and I am going to work my ass off to earn that love and respect it for every single ounce that it is worth.
So, yeah, I'm a bit pissed every time I see that yet another dog is being given up on. And not just anyone will take this dog-no, this dog needs HELP and this dog needs a willing- and giving- heart. Those are damned hard to come by these days.
So excuse me while you people condone and coddle, because in my eyes, in my heart, it's NOT OKAY.
If any of you had a child would you shrug your shoulders at it when it was known to have a disability and then give it up for adoption or what have you when you just couldn't bear the responsibility of a choice YOU made. I would certainly hope NOT.
I would NEVER, NEVER, give up any of my dogs. I would rather eat ramen all day than give my dogs up. It's called unconditional love- my dogs show it to me every **** day and I am going to work my ass off to earn that love and respect it for every single ounce that it is worth.
So, yeah, I'm a bit pissed every time I see that yet another dog is being given up on. And not just anyone will take this dog-no, this dog needs HELP and this dog needs a willing- and giving- heart. Those are damned hard to come by these days.
So excuse me while you people condone and coddle, because in my eyes, in my heart, it's NOT OKAY.
What I dont understand about your view BP, is that you want her to keep the dog even thou she can not AFFORD it ? I understand why you are angry, and I dont think anyone is saying its OK for her to of gotten a dog with such problems and not plan ahead for a dog.
Plain and simple: She should never of gotten a dog, because she is obviously not ready for all the aspects that go into owning a dog. But now that she has, and is in obvious trouble from HER CHOICE, the least she can do is *try* and find someone who can properly deal with this dog.
Plain and simple: She should never of gotten a dog, because she is obviously not ready for all the aspects that go into owning a dog. But now that she has, and is in obvious trouble from HER CHOICE, the least she can do is *try* and find someone who can properly deal with this dog.
I agree with you BP and Tosca 100%. Absolutely. However, now that it has happened, my feeling is 1)... that the dog would be better served in a new, loving home with someone who can feed, train and care for him, someone who is dedicated enough. And 2)... that the dog will adjust and be OK after some initial stress from the change. Dogs are adaptable that way.
If the op keeps the dog because keeping him is ideally unconditional and indisposable, but there isn't the dedication, the funds, whatever the stuff it's made of that you and I have to keep a dog for as long as they live, how much better off will he be?
Next time, plan ahead better. I would never want to coerce someone to keep a dog that they don't want badly enough. Hopefully it has been learned that taking on a dog is a responsibility and you should always give it a huge amount of thought and planning.
BTW Nikki....I am eating Ramen and other like substances so that Lyric can eat his homemade Thanksgiving dinner with all the fixins every day 3 times and keep on his $600-800 a month prescriptions and suppliments and his monthly blood work and exam. LOL. Next idea is accupuncture. I might end up in the poor house, but I have my best friend with me and he just might be with me a little longer than he would otherwise... and feel healthier and pretty energetic too.
If the op keeps the dog because keeping him is ideally unconditional and indisposable, but there isn't the dedication, the funds, whatever the stuff it's made of that you and I have to keep a dog for as long as they live, how much better off will he be?
Next time, plan ahead better. I would never want to coerce someone to keep a dog that they don't want badly enough. Hopefully it has been learned that taking on a dog is a responsibility and you should always give it a huge amount of thought and planning.
BTW Nikki....I am eating Ramen and other like substances so that Lyric can eat his homemade Thanksgiving dinner with all the fixins every day 3 times and keep on his $600-800 a month prescriptions and suppliments and his monthly blood work and exam. LOL. Next idea is accupuncture. I might end up in the poor house, but I have my best friend with me and he just might be with me a little longer than he would otherwise... and feel healthier and pretty energetic too.
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Oh no. I never said that. By all means find the dog a home that can love it and provide for as should have been done so ALL this time. But I'm not going to give her a shoulder and say poor baby, when it is ultimately the dog that will suffer- and has suffered- most.
Before people get a dog, they need to think about the responsibility it entails.
So, what I don't understand is how when the times get rough, it's the dog that always, ALWAYS, gets the short end of the stick.
Before people get a dog, they need to think about the responsibility it entails.
So, what I don't understand is how when the times get rough, it's the dog that always, ALWAYS, gets the short end of the stick.
You know....speaking of sticks....after reading that disgusting thread about the trainer and owner beating the dog with a stick in the name of "training," this doesn't compares to that, to me.
This is not great. The dog has to go through more stress and change of routine. He has to be uprooted yet again. Not good at all. But he'll recover. No one is beating him, being cruel and abusive, at least not that we know of. Thank goodness for that.
Sometimes we need to put things into perspective and fight for battles that will help the most destitute and pitiful of dogs. IMO, the Op's dog is not in the worst situation that there is in this world where dogs are starved to skeletons (did you see in the ear cropping thread that Dobe that Sizzledog postetd?) where dogs are beaten and tortured, where dogs are made to fight other dogs sometimes to the death, where people light dogs on fire using gasoline? Or where people dump off their dogs in the wilderness to fend for themselves. I've seen this and it's not pretty at all.
Sure, that doesn't make this OK. Nor should we turn away and ignore this mentality of carelessness when getting a dog and then re-homing him when things don't "work out." But we should keep things in perspective too and look at the whole spectrum of things before we become so terribly bogged down with one single issue like this one.
Hopefully, the op realizes the error of her ways.... for the future.
This is not great. The dog has to go through more stress and change of routine. He has to be uprooted yet again. Not good at all. But he'll recover. No one is beating him, being cruel and abusive, at least not that we know of. Thank goodness for that.
Sometimes we need to put things into perspective and fight for battles that will help the most destitute and pitiful of dogs. IMO, the Op's dog is not in the worst situation that there is in this world where dogs are starved to skeletons (did you see in the ear cropping thread that Dobe that Sizzledog postetd?) where dogs are beaten and tortured, where dogs are made to fight other dogs sometimes to the death, where people light dogs on fire using gasoline? Or where people dump off their dogs in the wilderness to fend for themselves. I've seen this and it's not pretty at all.
Sure, that doesn't make this OK. Nor should we turn away and ignore this mentality of carelessness when getting a dog and then re-homing him when things don't "work out." But we should keep things in perspective too and look at the whole spectrum of things before we become so terribly bogged down with one single issue like this one.
Hopefully, the op realizes the error of her ways.... for the future.
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While I admit I may be laying one hell of a guilt trip, I do not wish to make the OP keep the dog in any way. It is obvious he/she can not care for him and the dog deserves 100% better.
But, if any lurker out there is thinking about getting a dog and sees this thread and thinks, wow, things could go wrong, I better think twice about getting a lifetime commitment, then I pat myself on the back for being bitchy.
This, Carrie, is why I adore you so much .We've had our differences for sure, but the devotion is equal between both you and Lyric. That is something to be admired for, that is someone that people need to think, "I hope I am every bit as a devoted and responsible dog owner as she is."
That said, as we all know I've had my fair share of heartbreaks and money woes with my dogs. There have been times (just a couple weeks ago, actually) when I thought that we just wouldn't make it with our dozen vet visits, caring for Adobe, Buddy's emergency surgery, Bella's specialist appointments and her bout of ringworm. But I sleep on my bed at night- with my Buddy curled up next to me (most likely his butt in my face
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And before anyone accuses me of being holier than thou, I would make every attempt to help this person and their dog, but I live too far away.
But, if any lurker out there is thinking about getting a dog and sees this thread and thinks, wow, things could go wrong, I better think twice about getting a lifetime commitment, then I pat myself on the back for being bitchy.
This, Carrie, is why I adore you so much .We've had our differences for sure, but the devotion is equal between both you and Lyric. That is something to be admired for, that is someone that people need to think, "I hope I am every bit as a devoted and responsible dog owner as she is."
That said, as we all know I've had my fair share of heartbreaks and money woes with my dogs. There have been times (just a couple weeks ago, actually) when I thought that we just wouldn't make it with our dozen vet visits, caring for Adobe, Buddy's emergency surgery, Bella's specialist appointments and her bout of ringworm. But I sleep on my bed at night- with my Buddy curled up next to me (most likely his butt in my face
) and my Bella at my feet and I feel so blessed. To know the the unconditional love of a dog- there is no other. I wouldn't give any of that up-not for anything. I guess it's my wish that all dog owners feel this way and move mountains for their dogs, but wishes don't always comes true. And before anyone accuses me of being holier than thou, I would make every attempt to help this person and their dog, but I live too far away.
That's what I am talking about. You would shovel chit if you had to but you do RIGHT by your dog. That's a person who deserves to have a pet. People should not have pets and kids if they haven't got that intestinal fortitude when or if things aren't going so well financially, or behaviorally, or healthwise. A real parent, a real pet owner, either one, does what he or she has to do to show their love and meet their responsibility. In the way some people shouldn't be allowed to spawn, some people shouldn't have pets if they lack this drive that Dober obviously has.
I second that. Twice.
I second that. Twice.
I agree with BP, TM, and Doberluv. I would do anything for my pets if it came down to it. I would eat Ramen and beans everyday if it meant having my pups in my life. My dogs are my family members, and you do not run out or dessert family members when it comes to hard times.
It makes me so sad and angry when people take their pet ownership responsibilities so lightly. This is why only 30% of all dogs stay in one home for their entire lives. It's just pathetic.
It makes me so sad and angry when people take their pet ownership responsibilities so lightly. This is why only 30% of all dogs stay in one home for their entire lives. It's just pathetic.
I do and I have. LOL.
Well, it really isn't anything out of this world or heroic to me. I just assumed that once I had a dog or a cat, they'd be with me until death do us part. They're sure a lot easier than some husbands.
They are family, no question about it.
And besides....how could anyone part with a love like Jose`? (Just as one example?) He is so attached to me and such an affectionate, adorable boy. Look how cute he is: LOL.
Nikki...I know. You too have been through the ringer with sick dogs. It sucks. I hope your babies are doing better now. I haven't kept up with all the threads very well lately.
Oh, and it's a good thing you did miss that thread. I can't understand anyone having a dog that is typically for love and companionship and then be so mean to it. Something wrong with people.
Well, sorry I got a bit off topic. But anyhow, I don't guess we should be too hard on the OP. She made a mistake and hopefully will learn from it.
Jesse, 30%? Gosh! That's incredible! (maybe we're the nuts)
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Well, it really isn't anything out of this world or heroic to me. I just assumed that once I had a dog or a cat, they'd be with me until death do us part. They're sure a lot easier than some husbands.
And besides....how could anyone part with a love like Jose`? (Just as one example?) He is so attached to me and such an affectionate, adorable boy. Look how cute he is: LOL.
Nikki...I know. You too have been through the ringer with sick dogs. It sucks. I hope your babies are doing better now. I haven't kept up with all the threads very well lately.
Oh, and it's a good thing you did miss that thread. I can't understand anyone having a dog that is typically for love and companionship and then be so mean to it. Something wrong with people.
Well, sorry I got a bit off topic. But anyhow, I don't guess we should be too hard on the OP. She made a mistake and hopefully will learn from it.
Jesse, 30%? Gosh! That's incredible! (maybe we're the nuts)
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Nah....couldn't be.