Decided to rehome bruno

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Viv, I think you already know how much I like and respect you. So I am going to tell you that I almost left for good once too. It was because I watched a Chaz regular post cute pictures and loving messages about her dogs she loves so "dearly". One of them was dragging his rear legs for need of surgery, for many months, but many coddled her about not getting what that dog needed to be well. Always there was an excuse for her irresponsiblilty.Then one day she posted "Good Bye (dogname)", announced she was moving and not taking them with her, as they wouldn't fit in to her new situation, and in the end ditched her two dogs, dogs we Chazzers grew to see as part of our dog family. One went to a "rescue" that has the worst reputation going (still paralyzed at the time) and another to an unknown place. These were dogs and a poster we all grew to know and love as she paraded them before us, then one day she turned into something else, deciding the dogs weren't suitable to her life. Many of us were horrifed and heartbroken for those poor innocent dogs. One of us even tried to go rescue the "rescued" dog on her own time. So please, please I ask that you excuse some of us, angry me included, when we smell something similar with respect to "commitment" and get a little testy. Like BP says, it's always the dogs that end up with the crap end of the stick. I know exactly where BP is coming from and why.
 

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Hope you feel better. ;)

I remember people being pretty **** upset about the fact that someone couldn't pay for the surgery that their dog needed since it was a young puppy. Yes, I remember all too well. I remember that members came together and did their best to help that poor dog as well.

The thing I don't get is, we have trainers, vet's, dog lovers all types on this forum. People come here to get help and for the most part they get help. So when a member that is somewhat established decides to re-home a dog that can certainly be helped (aggression problems? that dog needs help pronto) by some advice here. The person can't afford the dog anymore. They must not be willing to make any sacrifices. But fine, we have yet another dog that needs to be disposed of because someone didn't take their responsibility serious enough. I am not going to coddle and lend a shoulder. Instead of moping on the board, a reputable rescue should be found in assurance that the dog will receive the help it needs and not be put down due to it's aggression. The owner can't even do that.

And no, its obvious the dog should not stay with it's owner- they have made it clear that they are not cut out for dog/kid/anything ownership right now. Doesn't mean I'm going to sit around and say poor you when, as I said before, it's always the dog that suffers. ALWAYS.

No one is asking you to say poor you.... like you said.... it is the dog that suffers. BUT how is this helping the DOG at all? It's not.

I also must have missed the part in the original post where it said they were going to have the dog put down. From what I could tell they were looking for a good home for the dog and since this forum has been known to be a GREAT help is assisting people with rehoming dogs and finding a great place for them to go instead of a crappy shelter where they would end up being put down I can see why they would come here looking for assistance in helping the DOG. No one is asking for you to feel bad for the owner.... or to sugar coat anything.... but if you really want to help the dog then offer advice that will help the dog. But so far I haven't seen much in the way of helping except for a few posts here or there. I wish I was in a position or had any idea of how to help the dog.... but I don't. But I know many here DO know how to help.... why are they refusing that help now just because they are upset at the owner. It's not the dogs fault. So we should be helping the dog instead of just griping about the owners choices. We can't change what has happened. We all agree this dog should be rehomed (at least I think we do although it's confusing since many of the posts say they should keep the dog even though they have stated they can't provide the nessecities) so lets help find a way to get this dog where it needs to be like I know we can. I have seen it done on this board before. How come we can't help this dog?
 

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WHAT IS BEST FOR THE DOG? (like Sparks says)

In all honesty, while I most emphatically do not condone frivolous reasons for giving up a dog and I don't condone irresponsibility of forethought when aquiring a dog, I really don't think the dog is going to suffer so terribly badly by being re-homed into a good home.....as long as the dog gets proper and kind training by an experienced person and gets any care it needs.

Dogs, IMO don't think like humans in that they don't languish for a very, very long time when their owners are not there anymore as long as someone serves as a good and loving leader to them. Some may be stressed a little longer than others.

I don't equate this exactly with dumping a dog off at a shelter or on the side of the road with no thought or care of it's future. If diligent steps are taken to find this dog a GOOD home, then the dog will not suffer much at all. IMO. Humans, on the other hand, when a loved one is gone are affected for a very long time because we have bigger and more convoluted brains, we're much more complex that way. We re-trace our lives with them, think about what might have been in the future if they were still with us, remember conversations and wish we could talk to them again. Dogs, I believe feel sad and bewildered for a little while because what was familiar to them is gone. They feel insecure. But they're not going through all that in their heads I don't imagine. In a few weeks or so, most dogs seem happy as ever with a new owner, which can be attested to by loads of people who adopt dogs at an older age.

If I could not scrape together enough money to take care of my ill dog's needs, if I couldn't have afforded his very expensive medical procedures, drugs and special diet, I would have to re-home him so that someone could. It would just about kill me to have to do that. But if I couldn't eat or keep a roof over my head, I would have to. Somewhere a line has to be drawn. Perhaps the line isn't drawn very clearly for the OP, but nevertheless, maybe we don't really know that since we're not in her shoes. It doesn't seem like the line is there yet, but again....if she doesn't have the stuff it's made of that the dog needs, (perhaps due to her childhood background) he may be better off re-homed. I wouldn't recommend fostering him out for a while and then taking him back. That's too much. Find him a good forever home and take care of your life before getting another dog.

And by the way....I do not believe either that your dog is being protective. A lot of people like to think this when their dog bites someone when they're around...naturally. Who wouldn't love it that their dog protects them? Most do not. This is probably undersocializing, bad experiences....something. Confident dogs protect and don't fly off the handle about it at the wrong reasons. Insecure and undersocialized dogs over-react to inappropriate situations and people. Their goal is to increase flight distance and instead of fleeing, making the other thing go away is more their style of creating space.

Aggression or defensiveness (I prefer to call it) can be fixed in many cases when handled in a systematic, gradual desensatizing fashion. Lots of "aggressive" dogs are rehabilitated.

Anyhow...what is best for the dog at this point? Isn't that the main thing?
 

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I think I agree - and I'm not saying that this is true in this case, BUT how do we know? Over text on a screen, anything could be said, made up, or twisted to suit how they want us to interpret it. Of course, I'm one to gennerally believe people, what is written, but in the past hasn't it been proven that sometimes the complete opposite is true?

Again, not saying this is the case. I just hope that my hesitations are not misunderstood as something. . . else . . . :p
 

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I think I agree - and I'm not saying that this is true in this case, BUT how do we know? Over text on a screen, anything could be said, made up, or twisted to suit how they want us to interpret it. Of course, I'm one to gennerally believe people, what is written, but in the past hasn't it been proven that sometimes the complete opposite is true?

Again, not saying this is the case. I just hope that my hesitations are not misunderstood as something. . . else . . . :p

How do we know?

I think anytime a person either can't afford their dog or just plain old doesn't want their dog (and one of these is true in this case... either they really can't afford it or they just don't want it) it is in the dogs best interest to rehome it. If a person does not love or want their dog anymore it is in the dogs best interest to find it a home that does love and want him. Keeping a dog that you don't love and don't want will be FAR worse for the dog in the long run.
 

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