Because THIS is just what the pit bull world needs, right?

The man bit her fingers to the bone!! It was a vicious, prolonged and premeditated attack. She may have forgiven him but I haven't.

I couldn't get past the freaking MUSIC. I hate sites that come up automatically with music and I click off those sites quickly.

Where are you guys seeing pictures of the dams and sires? All I see is the puppies.

I always keep my computer on mute for this reason. I don't want to be harassed by music!

I think this is in reference to the second "breeder" posted (Big Boi?) and not to Chris Brown's site.

I totally got the two mixed up. Those adult dogs are just... wow.

Yeah I saw this on his instagram =\

I didn't know game was a term married to a dog that has fought in a pit. Learn something new every day.

I have no issue because of his criminal history. I have an issue because of what is being done here, so please do not put words into my posts.

I agree wholeheartedly with Fran. Chris Brown beat the **** out of her and there's no denying it. Her forgiving him has no merit on whether he is worthy of forgiveness. Abused people go back to their SOs all the time. Mr. Brown is a ******* and this "breeding program" is just one less reason to like him.

Oh my god, those dogs are awful looking! :yikes:

what the efffff! that is just too much lol

By gamey I was talking about their appearance. He's not breeding crippled blue hippos - which is much better than all the rappers who breed "American Bullies" with horrible health & structure.

I'm not uneducated, but thanks for calling me that. Of course I don't hunt with my dogs so that just makes me an ignorant, uneducated fool.

I NEVER said he was a good breeder... I NEVER said his dogs should be bred... I said he's not the worst! I would NEVER purchase one of those puppies, I know exactly what a reputable breeder is. At least there's a health guarantee, pedigree, good socialization & I'm sure those puppies will go to loving homes. When everyone & their mother breeds Pit Bulls with random temperaments and gives them away for free on Craigslist if they don't dump them at the pound, this is not the biggest issue that Pit Bulls are facing. The fact that I've met CB & his dogs did make me want to put in my .02... but since I'm not with the majority, of course I'm going to get attacked and belittled and talked down to. I expect nothing less from Chaz these days.

Didn't you get Kai from a BYB? Well, there you go... I'm sure you didn't get any health guarantee, pedigree, etc. Based on that, Chris Brown is a better breeder than the one you got your dog from. And the MAJORITY of Pit Bull breeders in the world! The only difference is that he's a celebrity, who people love to pick on. I'm not saying his dogs are qualified, or that I would buy one of those puppies ever, or that I support the breeding. But it doesn't outrage me, that's ALL I was saying. His dogs are well cared for and I'm sure these puppies are, too. It's just that people are so quick to judge based on a snippet of information, which actually makes him sound like an ok breeder! Awful breeders do not bother with health guarantees on their puppies.

I know very well how many Pit Bulls there are in shelters. I have fostered several Pit Bull puppies, and one adult Pit Bull. I'm pretty sure CHRIS BROWN's puppies will not end up in shelters.

It is because he is a celebrity that he should be held to higher standards. He has the means to breed good quality dogs properly, yet chooses not to. He chooses to be just another detrimental BYB with an image to maintain, even moreso because of who he is.

I don't know why all of a sudden, because you kind of know him, he is 'better' than anyone else who does the same things that are looked down upon by us every other time. That is just bias.

"Not the worst" smelling crap is still crap, and it still stinks. The puppies have a pedigree. Great, so do the vast majority of puppymill dogs. A pedigree means nothing if the pedigree is full of nothing. Pedigrees serve as a tool in which to research the potential for a puppy to inherit known traits from their lineage; Working ability, structure, health, temperament, etc. Having a pedigree that tells you that your dog's parents are Smith's Blue Whale and Smith's Barefoot'N Pregnant, who are out of equally mediocre dogs, is about as worthless as having someone hand you a road map without any roads drawn on it.

As for the "health guarantee." What health guarantee? I would bet my right nut that the only "health guarantee" on these puppies is the standard 24-72 hour, "no refunds, exchange only" policy typically used by BYBs who bank on the fact that most owners aren't going to give up their new puppy. What else is there to guarantee? CB doesn't health test his dogs, so why would he place a warranty his dogs against inheritable diseases (or, at least, a warranty that gives the dog enough time to actually present symptoms...read the fine print on some breeders' "health guarantees" sometime ) I see nothing one way or the other about socialization, aside from having a vet examination.

For what it's worth, based on the photos on the website, I would bet my LEFT nut that he has two different litters that he appears to be attempting to sell as one litter. It's not that you can't get relatively plain, black masked fawn puppies in the same litter as flashy blacks, blues and chocolates.. It's that the fawn puppies and the other set of puppies look completely different to begin with, regardless of their color, and on top of that, why would someone "just happen" to take photos of the fawn puppies outside and the black based (solid black, blue, chocolate) puppies inside with a different camera?

I have seen plenty of sites with obvious bybs and millers offering a 'health guarantee"

My best friends MIL bought a Shih Tzu. He has a "health guarantee". He came from a pet store.

The term 'health guarantee' is rather vague and can mean a lot of things.

(And for the record I know the tone of this post probably reads rather snappy. Not my intention so sorry in advance. I just can't think of another way to word it)

As an APBT breeder, that statement is fairly insulting.

Sure they do, they're just very careful with the wording they use in their contracts. See my previous post.

Even the most well bred dogs on earth can possibly wind up in a shelter. The ONLY thing I can think of that may possibly keep CB's puppies out of shelters, if the same owners would have otherwise dumped their dog had it been bred by any other BYB, are the "bragging rights" (for lack of a better term) one believes they have in buying a dog from a famous person. That absolutely doesn't mean that the dog is going to have a good home.

not hunting your dogs doesn't make you ignorant, nor does working your dogs automatically make you not ignorant. saying the dogs are game but never matched is ignorant. being ignorant isn't a sin, we are all ignorant about many subjects & that can be fixed w/ education. what has everyone dumbfounded is an otherwise intelligent person willfully arguing a point contrary to what they know to be correct.