Because groping six year olds keeps us safe!

Okay. Those are some sickos.

I watched that a few times. they didn't grope that child. the TSA agent was always explaining what she was doing, and she was kind and gentle. sorry...but that is the world today. our children might as well know that is protocol for flying now. I thought the parents were ridiculous calling it groping. I love when people cry foul.....yet let something happen, and they REALLY cry. it's life now. no biggie........or don't fly. NOTHING was done that was inappropriate. people just love to complain.

I'm sorry, you touch my breasts, my butt, or put your hands in my clothing, let alone put your hands between my legs, that's a grope. Its a grope if you do it to me, and its a grope if you do it to a child.

That the TSA agent was clearly careful and was trying not to scare the child or be creepy is to the agent's credit, but that doesn't mean that the policy is not wildly excessive, unnecessary, and should be illegal. The PROBLEM is that its the protocol for flying.

No one should be touched like that without their consent, absent some real reason to suspect they are a threat to the plane. Not only is it demeaning and humiliating, but there are people with religious restrictions, people who have been sexually assaulted, people who are autistic or have other issues to whom this is a real problem.

well then.....don't fly. I want everyone checked before boarding my plane..thanks. if it's too gruesome for you.....drive.

Why? Do you think it makes you safer? Just what do you think pat downs will find?

I have seen a long list of things they have failed to find. And the fact that there are ways to easily fool a pat down or scan.

so you think a 2-6 year old is going to bomb your plane or kill you?

You want to do it to me fine whatever Ill deal with it because I chose to fly but my kid NO WAY IN HELL. Especially if they go through the scanners and everything else.

maybe it won't find anything, maybe it will. the people that cry the loudest for safe flying seem to find anything they do offensive. odd to me. ok..not to you..it's a big no-no. so, don't fly. it's simple as that. don't waa ..waaa...don't do it. as to that child again..I saw the parents, and they said she cried. ok..so what. simple to explain to a child that it is part of flying. big deal.

does it make me feel more safe. it doesn't hurt.

ok..so there's no point is discussing it. you all seem to think a mere scan on a child is somehow sexual or something. fine. agree to disagree then. tell that to a person that will think nothing of putting something on a child, and yes...they are out there...or wait! how silly is that?!!! lol

The girl was in tight fitting clothes! You could see everything and tell she didnt have anything on her Also most of that CAN be done by a parent. Did the TSA agent have to put her finger in the waistband? No as a parent I could have very easily unbuttoned Bevs jeans and flipped the waistband around for them to see. Or even held the pants open enough for them to see there was nothing but panties. Touching my child there is crossing the line.

doesn't matter if she had tight clothes on. rules are rules. big people...little people..what's the difference? none. it isn't a perfect system, but it's something. and...I am just someone that is more than willing to let them try. touch my breast...big freakin deal. lol silly.

Touch mine fine touch my 3 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER there and I will dismember your hand from your body.

It does hurt. Many people have discussed how it gives a false sense of security. Those guys proved it and got loads of things through. People think they are safe because of a pat down. A real terrorist isnt' worried about a pat down. Now if they start cavity searches.

Its also a problem when they market fear to the masses. They make up things for you to be afraid of, then make up a way to make people feel safe again. That way it looks like the bureaucrats are doing something. Now if they were actually interested in making air travel safer then sure.

Its simple to say don't fly. That is the attitude that keeps people being nice little docile sheep.

I am happy for you that you can feel safe. Even though it traumatizes abuse victims, has horribly embarrassed people witch prosthetic (cause the TSA doesnt' follow their own rules) An elderly man had to fly covered in his own **** cause a TSA agent needed to unhook his bag. Have you seen the people in tears over this? Or the pilots who have come forward after hearing TSA agents discussing that they intentionally target young attractive women for screening? All that so you can FEEL safe (yet actually be LESS safe)

If someone is prepared to blow up a plane with men, women and children and themselves onboard I think they'd have NO hesitation hiding an explosive on a child.

Just saying.

I want everyone checked before I fly too. With a metal detector, not a nudie scanner and someone's hands down my pants.

Has there been a successful attempt to attack a plane since 9/11 in the United States? No.

Have there been lots of attempts? No.

Have any of the attempts that have been tried likely to have been prevented by this? Probably not.

Is it even possible for a terrorist to seize control of a plane, like they did on 9/11? No.

Was there airplane terrorism before 9/11? Yes. In fact, most airplane terrorism occurred prior to 9/11.

Are you you, statistically in any danger from terrorism when you get on a plane? No.

Could a terrorist attack a train, a park during a concert, a bridge, a courthouse, a mall . . .etc? Yes. As has been dramatically shown in other countries, terrorists are not uniquely attracted to planes. If we had lots of terrorists, they would have blown something else up by now (and they've tried, fortunately, they are mostly idiots).

So why the hell are we forcing everyone, including small children, the elderly, etc to go through a humiliating procedure in the airport, one that costs a fortune, slows everything down, and only gets worse (and more silly) as time goes on?

Oh, yeah. Because of people saying "I'm not getting on a plane with someone who hasn't been checked, because I'm scared of the terrorists." That's right.

I remember all that stuff about "If we change our way of life, the terrorists have won." So everyone was encouraged to spend to much on their credit cards, drive their SUVS, etc. They missed the point. When I, a citizen of a free country, can be required to let a stranger stick their hand in my crotch so that I may travel freely within my own country, then my way of life has been massively changed. My rights under the 4th Amendment have been lost, my control over my own body and who touches it have been taken away. I ability to move about unmolested and unquestioned in my own country are gone. Yep, the terrorists won all right, because people like you are so scared of phantoms that you will give up even the right to say who touches your (and your childrens') genitals to be protected from largely imaginary terrorists.

What next? Do we ask government permission to go out in a thunderstorm? Because its more likely you'll be hit by lightning than killed by a terrorist.

Thanks, I'll take the infinitesimally small risk of there being a lunatic with a bomb on my plane who actually manages to set it off over the TSA. Thanks. I take a greater risk every day I drive a car.

They can also insert things inside themselves too. No pat down will find that.

Yep . . . people have talked about explosive breast implants as a possibility. And believe you me, I will slap the first TSA agent who tries to grope my breasts to find out if they are "real" when they create a protocol to try and detect them. And don't think they aren't considering it.

lol...there are no 'hands down your pants'. please. and again..fine..either don't fly or insist on them letting anyone come on without any type of checking. maybe you are comfortable with a risk of a bomb above someone touching your breasts (GASP). that's your own problem there. and please...people that have been abused, etc..etc...again..don't fly if it sets you in such a panic. it's just so simple. our kids fly to Europe often, and they know they will be checked. why? wow..it was simple...it was explained. no tears..no drama..no silly parents with a camera. it was explained as just another small thing in life. NO BIG DEAL. you make it a big deal....it will be. of course it's always your choice.

Indeed. But I was just responding to the point that why on earth would we need to frisk a child (I think grope is a totally inappropriate word in this context).

That's why.

We have to take our shoes off when we fly. And belts. And everything pretty much.

Next time I fly, I'm going in the nud.

I hate flying, so the more frisks, tests, checks, gropes they do they better thankyouverymuch.

that's our LITTLE children flying. and it's no big deal for them to be pat down. they do it with ease because nobody stood there freaking out like it was some assault.

But the laughable thing is that there is no significant danger, and this screening isn't keeping you safer.

I could be ok with it if it worked, and if there was a real danger. But its neither.

By this logic you would be ok with cavity checks to go shopping with your kids at the mall. Far more likely hood of terrorist activity there. Or perhaps a strip search to take pubic transit, far far higher risk of terrorist activity there.