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I do respect my folks and still do. If I can be half the man my father is, I'm doing well.

I grew up just fine and my kids are terrific.
Reading how you were raised it doesn't surprise me. :)

Don't say anything you can't/won't enforce, same as with dogs. Don't give commands you can't follow through with.

As far as the soap thing, it's outdated and a bit more dangerous these days because of all the perfumes, dyes, crap, etc that are in them but it's not something to call CPS on.

Does anyone else ever wonder if this upswing of over-reporting "abuse" stems from childhood angry promises of "when i have kids, i won't treat them like this!" after they got punished? Seriously, for generations things were just going along and then suddenly in the last generation, EVERYTHING is abuse now.

This is not to downplay actual abuse, but a light swat on the butt, washing mouths out, removing privledges/doors, etc...those are harmless. But they're getting the attention that a full-out beating used to get.
I tend to think that physical punishment is unnecessary. Im sure there were times I received a light swat, but who even knows. My parents didnt need to punish us because we never gave them a reason to. Yeah Im sure we were whiney or if we were misbehaving we got sent to our rooms to cool down. But that was usually if my brother and I were fighting with EACH OTHER.
 
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I have had soap in my mouth growing up. I would never soap my child's mouth now, but I certainly wouldn't think using that same principle with other nasty tastes as abusive. (Afterall, we do it with dogs - bitter apple anyone? Lol) A teaspoon of vinegar I'm sure would do the trick as well, without having any of the dyes or things soaps might have. When we were little and wouldn't stop sucking our thumbs, my mom put hot pepper/hot sauce on it. Broke us of that really fast!

I vowed many, many times to not do things my mother did, but it wasn't the consequences/discipline I said I'd never do, it was that I'd never do it in anger.
 

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I won't do soap in the mouth but I got it when I was younger. Now the parents who threaten spankings in the store. You want to know how my mom does it? Kids need a spanking they get taken to the bathroom and get their butt spanked. I'll do the same if needed when my daughter is older. I do semi-attached parenting. I do believe in spankings.
 

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I don't think kids are worse. I Think parents are busy, schedules are tight, everything is in a rush, patience are worn thin. Expectations on everyone's part are higher and sometimes down right unreasonable. MY old boss soaped or oiled I don't remember which the railroad tracks with his brothers in 1910 among other "crimes" of which he told me about. Kids do things and say things. THe only difference now is how much time they have to do it in.
 

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I won't do soap in the mouth but I got it when I was younger. Now the parents who threaten spankings in the store. You want to know how my mom does it? Kids need a spanking they get taken to the bathroom and get their butt spanked. I'll do the same if needed when my daughter is older. I do semi-attached parenting. I do believe in spankings.

Do you believe in spanking pets? I mean, with human kids, depending on their age, they can understand why probably. I still don't agree with pysical punishment and think that there are other ways, but....I don't think a spanking here and there is necessarily real abuse.
 

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People are to scared to disipline thier kids. I remember I used to bark at my food in a resteraunt (sp?). :rolleyes:

Nothing my mom did would get me to stop. So one time we went to KFC so she could set me up. I did it, she warned me once to stop. I didnt. So she put me in the car (it was parked so she could see it clearly) and locked the doors. She went back in and finished eating. Guess what? Im still alive, not scared for life and I didnt bark at my food again.

I got my share of spankings too, and I deserved them. I grew up not geting into any realy trouble (aside from talking back to teachers). Kids grwoing up have to coniquences for thier actions because the parents are to scared someone will report them. CPS almost has to much power in some places
 

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Kids grwoing up have to coniquences for thier actions
I absolutely agree. But what consequences? Does it have to be physical? I had consequences, but not physical....not spankings. (Oh...maybe a couple, but hardly at all) And I turned out reasonably responsible and moral. They took privelges away...I mean I had to forgo some things I really, really wanted to do.
 

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Abuse? No. Disgusting? Yes. As likely to work as rubbing your dogs nose in its own crap? Probably. Likely to damage your relationship with your kid as you use physical force to put something gross and probably mildly poisonous in his or her mouth for mere words? Yes.

I have had this one done to me by a family friend who was watching me. Its revolting. It made me angry. I do think I stopped cursing, but I didnt' really know what I'd done wrong. And as an adult, I cuss just fine, thanks.

I'd pretty sure there is a better way to teach appropriate language.
 

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I don't know how much good it would have done in putting soap in my mouth. I used to love Thrills gum, it tasted like soap. I wonder if Thrills gum was only a Canadian thing? I've never seen it here.
 
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I was spanked 3 or 4 times in my life. Whenever my parents told me specifically not to do something and I did it anyway, I got spanked. Up until about the age of 8 or 9.

I do agree that having things taken away was always a much harsher punishment. That's probably what I'll do more. But I probably will sometimes give an occasional well deserved swat.
 

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I swat bev when its something dangerous plus at her age she doesnt understand the no privaleges thing and will turn around and do it when im not looking :rolleyes: Plus she doesnt even feel it LOL. Its gotten to where i slap a diaper against the couch and she stops LOL. Its more the noise she reacts to
 

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I swat bev when its something dangerous plus at her age she doesnt understand the no privaleges thing and will turn around and do it when im not looking :rolleyes: Plus she doesnt even feel it LOL. Its gotten to where i slap a diaper against the couch and she stops LOL. Its more the noise she reacts to

Exactly. :hail:

I got spanked as a child when I screwed up big. My kids get spanked when they screw up big time.

I don't do "idle" threats. If I tell my kids they are getting spanked in the store, they KNOW they are getting spanked (even if I have to drag them kicking and screaming into the bathroom). End of story.

I've used hot sauce too. Not for bad words, but my 3 year old continually drinks all the coffee creamer. While it's not good for him to drink like that, it's irritating because they have dozens of other things to drink and he wants it. So I laced the entire lid with some really hot fire sauce and let him fail.
I might mention that was after I put a lock on the fridge and he tore it off the same day.:rolleyes:
 

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Not so sure if I'd use the soap but who cares if someone else wants to. My sister puts a drop of vinegar on her kids' tongue when they talk back--calls it "sassy discipline." It never really even needs to be used, the sight of the bottle or the mention of it gets their attention.
 

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While I probably wouldn't put soap in my kid's mouths, I certainly don't think it's a CPS-call-worthy action.
 

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My mom put soap in my mouth when I was little. I think she only did it twice though, and I can't remember what I said (and neither can she, lol). We joke about it now, and we have a great relationship. I think it would take more than a little soap in the mouth to mess up your relationship with your kid.
 

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