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My cats are NEVER outside. Ever, for any reason. My biggest pet peeve in my neighborhood? The people who allow their cats to roam the neighborhood, pissing on my cars and truck, scratching them, terrorizing each other, getting into my trash, getting in the engine of my vehicle, getting in my fenced yard, crapping in my flower beds, trying to get IN my house, killing birds in my yard, climbing my screens...
I do not see the point of having a cat and allowing it outside for long or extended periods of time with no supervision or tethering. I'm a worrywart and I don't want them taken because someone thinks they lost or "free." I wouldn't allow my dogs off leash and without supervision; why would I do the same with my cats?
It's nice that some of you may have neighborhoods where that's acceptable. I do not, and I don't appreciate the roaming cats. It's gotten to the point where I have to check MY FENCED IN BACKYARD for nasty neighborhood cats before I let Noodle out; we had a very scary incident last summer with a very aggressive, angry cat in my yard.
My cats are NEVER outside. Ever, for any reason. My biggest pet peeve in my neighborhood? The people who allow their cats to roam the neighborhood, pissing on my cars and truck, scratching them, terrorizing each other, getting into my trash, getting in the engine of my vehicle, getting in my fenced yard, crapping in my flower beds, trying to get IN my house, killing birds in my yard, climbing my screens...
I do not see the point of having a cat and allowing it outside for long or extended periods of time with no supervision or tethering. I'm a worrywart and I don't want them taken because someone thinks they lost or "free." I wouldn't allow my dogs off leash and without supervision; why would I do the same with my cats?
It's nice that some of you may have neighborhoods where that's acceptable. I do not, and I don't appreciate the roaming cats. It's gotten to the point where I have to check MY FENCED IN BACKYARD for nasty neighborhood cats before I let Noodle out; we had a very scary incident last summer with a very aggressive, angry cat in my yard.
Woman attacked by cat
http://www.news4jax.com/news/13239057/detail.html
Stray cats enter home, attack woman
http://www.redorbit.com/news/oddities/869965/stray_cats_enter_home_attack_women_boy/index.html
Two stories of cats attacking dogs (not the ones where significant damage was done):
http://www.news4jax.com/news/13239057/detail.html
Stray cats enter home, attack woman
http://www.redorbit.com/news/oddities/869965/stray_cats_enter_home_attack_women_boy/index.html
Two stories of cats attacking dogs (not the ones where significant damage was done):
And that is perfectly okay you have your opinion NRA. And I agree with you in most situations. If I didn't have cats, i wouldn't appreciate them coming into my yard.
If my neighbor's complained about my cats, I would do what I could to contain them. But luckily my cats don't have any reason to wander into other people's yards. AND I didn't seem to clarify. My cats are NOT outside all day. They are all brought in at nighttime, and most choose to hang out inside most of the time. When its really nice out, they hang out outside more. There are never more than 5-6 outside at a time. They usually change shifts lol. SO hopefully nobody pictured 23 cats sitting in my front yard lol. (I did mention 8 are strictly indoor right?).
If my neighbor's complained about my cats, I would do what I could to contain them. But luckily my cats don't have any reason to wander into other people's yards. AND I didn't seem to clarify. My cats are NOT outside all day. They are all brought in at nighttime, and most choose to hang out inside most of the time. When its really nice out, they hang out outside more. There are never more than 5-6 outside at a time. They usually change shifts lol. SO hopefully nobody pictured 23 cats sitting in my front yard lol. (I did mention 8 are strictly indoor right?).
I can't say I appreciate finding random cats anywhere near my home. Ever. I have no issue dropping them off at AC. Might make me a nasty neighbour, but I don't leave my dogs loose to pee and poop on your lawn, front porch, flowerbeds, etc.. so in turn I don't appreciate your cat doing the same.
I also don't appreciate letting my dogs out into my fenced backyard to find cats in it either. I'd prefer my dogs don't fight the neighbourhood animals as I'd rather neither the cat or my dogs get hurt, but not every cat I've seen is that bright, and Cider can play mighty rough with cats if they don't run fast enough. If something ever happened to one I'd feel bad, but it is there backyard. Your cat doesn't belong in it.
Since there are leash laws for dogs, I think there should be similar for cats.
I also don't appreciate letting my dogs out into my fenced backyard to find cats in it either. I'd prefer my dogs don't fight the neighbourhood animals as I'd rather neither the cat or my dogs get hurt, but not every cat I've seen is that bright, and Cider can play mighty rough with cats if they don't run fast enough. If something ever happened to one I'd feel bad, but it is there backyard. Your cat doesn't belong in it.
Since there are leash laws for dogs, I think there should be similar for cats.
FOHA has a feral population on the property. What do they do when they see a dog coming? They RUN AWAY.
Cats can have aggression problems just like dogs. I had the unfortunate duty of cleaning the cage of a rather evil cat when I worked at the shelter for a month and a half. He was an orange tabby who I named "Satan's Kitty". He would look all sweet and innocent, and when you went to touch him he would claw and bite the freaking hell out of you. I had to move him with the cat gloves in order to clean his cage in the mornings. I know what a scared cat looks like, and he was NOT scared, he was plain insane.
Cats can have aggression problems just like dogs. I had the unfortunate duty of cleaning the cage of a rather evil cat when I worked at the shelter for a month and a half. He was an orange tabby who I named "Satan's Kitty". He would look all sweet and innocent, and when you went to touch him he would claw and bite the freaking hell out of you. I had to move him with the cat gloves in order to clean his cage in the mornings. I know what a scared cat looks like, and he was NOT scared, he was plain insane.
Last summer, my husband went to let Allie and Noodle outside into our backyard. Noodle got out first, and the grey cat that he didn't see ran AT Noodle, hissing and spitting. He caught Allie, and Noodle ran in...cat went back to the middle of our yard and waited. I laughed at my husband when he said he couldn't get a cat out of our backyard, and that I needed to get rid of it. I walked out there to shoo the cat and the insane think LUNGED at me before I even got close. Dam* thing tried to chase me back into my own house, but I managed to hit it with the hose and scurry it out.
There were NO kittens in my yard. NO food. NO birds. Nothing that the cat would be protecting or "afraid" of me. It was an aggressive, psycho cat that went after the Noodle and it ticked me off.
There were NO kittens in my yard. NO food. NO birds. Nothing that the cat would be protecting or "afraid" of me. It was an aggressive, psycho cat that went after the Noodle and it ticked me off.
I'm TOTALLY with ya here. My neighbors had cats when I was growing up, and the cats would poop in our gravel driveway (and bury it so that we'd step in it... ALWAYS right before church :doh, and they'd leave dead rodents in our yard, and on and on.... Basically they were just a nuicence. So my cat is allowed outside sometimes.... but only when I'm out with her and almost always right before a meal so that I know she's coming back. And the property I live on is 6-acres so I'm fairly confident she's not going to bother the neighbors, but still. I don't let my dog off leash (the property is not fenced) so why would I let my cat go out unsupervised either??
, and they'd leave dead rodents in our yard, and on and on.... Basically they were just a nuicence. So my cat is allowed outside sometimes.... but only when I'm out with her and almost always right before a meal so that I know she's coming back. And the property I live on is 6-acres so I'm fairly confident she's not going to bother the neighbors, but still. I don't let my dog off leash (the property is not fenced) so why would I let my cat go out unsupervised either??
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And you see.. these cats, though their species may be cat, I consider them very much and little more than a WILD ANIMAL. Just as you'd expect any wild animal not socialized or raised with humans, you should expect wild cats to turn to aggression. Even when I saved the lives of 30 min old kittens that a wild, feral cat had given birth to in a litter box, when I put them back with the mother, she shoved them out of the cage. They had my scent on them, and she wanted nothing to do with them, just like a wild animal would do.
But still, that wild animal is not going to randomly try to attack people. Its going to try flight first, but if it feels it cannot flee, it will resort to aggression.
Forget bite gloves, after I was bitten by one of those, I handled those cats with nothing but a 6 foot catch pole.
But still, that wild animal is not going to randomly try to attack people. Its going to try flight first, but if it feels it cannot flee, it will resort to aggression.
Forget bite gloves, after I was bitten by one of those, I handled those cats with nothing but a 6 foot catch pole.
i have a cat who goes out. i'd much prefer that he didn't, but if i try to keep him in the house, he gets stressed out, gets cystitis, and pees blood all over my house. at one point i tried him on anti-anxiety medication, but that made him hypersalivate every time i gave it, which wasn't any fun for either one of us. so he goes out, and i stress a lot every time he doesn't come home when he's supposed to. i know the chances of him getting hit by a car or trapped in a garage or attacked by a dog or whatever are significant, but i don't know what else to do with him. he was a stray that i brought into the house as a young adult. he was content to stay in for about a year, and since then he's been indoor/outdoor no matter what i do.
the other four do not go out ever.
the other four do not go out ever.
Peanut is never allowed outside, unless the house was burning down and he got out, and no I cat I plan on having will be outside.
To me, there is NO difference between a stray dog and a stray cat other than one is a cat and the other is a dog.
They both can harm people, both can cause issues, both can be stolen, both can be harmed in any possible way, and both should be kept undersupervision when or if they are outside.
To me, there is NO difference between a stray dog and a stray cat other than one is a cat and the other is a dog.
They both can harm people, both can cause issues, both can be stolen, both can be harmed in any possible way, and both should be kept undersupervision when or if they are outside.
I was bitten by a cat when I was 7. I still have 4 perfect little scars on my right forearm from the teeth and a long scratch going down my wrist and thumb from a claw. And no one still knows what happened and my mom witnessed the whole thing.
Scared? Invading their space? The cat was in MY driveway and I did nothing more than walk by it. Next thing I know I had a cat hanging from my arm and my mom came running and literally had to hit it and knock it off of me.
And since it was a "stray" and ran off, I had the pleasure of getting 11 shots into my abdomen to prevent rabies and had lovely bandage changes to deal with and nasty antibtiotics to take. Personally, the whole experience sucked and NO ONE, especially a child, should ever have to deal with it. Moral of the story: if whoever owned that cat had kept in inside, I would have never been bitten by it.
And seriously, trying to justify cats and creatures that don't bite unless provoked and don't cause damage as they just innocently mind their own business is futile. Cats carry highly contagious diseases that they can and do spread among the rest of the cat population (FIV, FeLUK, FIP), they can carry Rabies, they can have an ecological impact in the killing off of birds (here in LA they seem to have an afinity for endangered species) and squirrels, and they do seem to enjoy destroying people's personal property such as cars and tarps and b-b-que grill covers. They enjoy using other people's bushes and even the frontdoor mat as their personal potty. And they could care less about trespassing onto property where they are unwanted.
For the record, my dogs have killed a neighbor's cat that was in my yard when I let 2 dogs out. Butch busted through a fenceboard the other day to get on that part of our property in the back we could not fence (due to underground gas pipelines) and killed 2 kittens out of a nasty, emaciated, fleabitten litter that my husband and my neighbor's husband had to deal with (& nobody enjoys doing that). They carry fleas with them. They carry ringworm with them.
All in all if you want a cat, fine. But if you want me to keep my Pit Bulls from roaming loose and destroying your property and using your yard as it's toilet and bringing fleas to your home, then I suggest you show the same courtesy with your cat.
Scared? Invading their space? The cat was in MY driveway and I did nothing more than walk by it. Next thing I know I had a cat hanging from my arm and my mom came running and literally had to hit it and knock it off of me.
And since it was a "stray" and ran off, I had the pleasure of getting 11 shots into my abdomen to prevent rabies and had lovely bandage changes to deal with and nasty antibtiotics to take. Personally, the whole experience sucked and NO ONE, especially a child, should ever have to deal with it. Moral of the story: if whoever owned that cat had kept in inside, I would have never been bitten by it.
And seriously, trying to justify cats and creatures that don't bite unless provoked and don't cause damage as they just innocently mind their own business is futile. Cats carry highly contagious diseases that they can and do spread among the rest of the cat population (FIV, FeLUK, FIP), they can carry Rabies, they can have an ecological impact in the killing off of birds (here in LA they seem to have an afinity for endangered species) and squirrels, and they do seem to enjoy destroying people's personal property such as cars and tarps and b-b-que grill covers. They enjoy using other people's bushes and even the frontdoor mat as their personal potty. And they could care less about trespassing onto property where they are unwanted.
For the record, my dogs have killed a neighbor's cat that was in my yard when I let 2 dogs out. Butch busted through a fenceboard the other day to get on that part of our property in the back we could not fence (due to underground gas pipelines) and killed 2 kittens out of a nasty, emaciated, fleabitten litter that my husband and my neighbor's husband had to deal with (& nobody enjoys doing that). They carry fleas with them. They carry ringworm with them.
All in all if you want a cat, fine. But if you want me to keep my Pit Bulls from roaming loose and destroying your property and using your yard as it's toilet and bringing fleas to your home, then I suggest you show the same courtesy with your cat.
I think she means in terms of opening the door, letting the critter outside, and then shutting the door behind it and not bothering about it until it's nighttime and the critter wants back inside after being out all day.
I woulldn't think you would let your JRTs roam the 'hood loose anymore than I would my APBTs......or any dog for that matter.
And I wish I had a dollar for every owner who came in with their dog/cat who had been HBC and wanted to know who to call to report the driver than ran over their animal. Boy did I have explaining it wasn't the car driver's fault in the least (well, unless a driver guns down an animal on a leash, but that's a whole other freaky story).
I woulldn't think you would let your JRTs roam the 'hood loose anymore than I would my APBTs......or any dog for that matter.
And I wish I had a dollar for every owner who came in with their dog/cat who had been HBC and wanted to know who to call to report the driver than ran over their animal. Boy did I have explaining it wasn't the car driver's fault in the least (well, unless a driver guns down an animal on a leash, but that's a whole other freaky story).
Our city has strict bylaws with respect to roaming cats or dogs. Dogs are only to be off leash in an owners fenced yard or a designated off leash park...and even then, must be no further than 6 feet on walking paths and under voice control at all times. As is expected, many people assume that their dog for *insert reason* is exempt. I can't tell you then number of dogs that are walking in my new area without a leash AND trying to approach us while my 3 are leashed. Huge problem. If I hear one more idiot say "It's ok, he's friendly".....I'm gonna go postal. :yikes:
My new neighbor across the street has a pit named Cash. Absolute sweetheart of a dog, overdone looking, intact, cropped, but VERY sweet. Cash is NEVER on a leash. I went and asked to pet him the other day and to explain my concern about Cash approaching Sophie while she's on leash (Sophie has been badly attacked and is reactive if approached QUICKLY while she has no flight option). The owner, who was really a nice young guy, had no clue that Cash had to be leashed when off of his property but also assured me that Cash would NEVER leave his front porch if a dog walked by. Not 2 minutes later Cash launched himself off of the porch and very rudely approached a puppy walking with his owner at least 5 houses away. I'm installing a gate on my front porch AND never walking my dogs in my own neighborhood again. If that pup had of been Sophie, the way that Cash approached....the fight would have been on. Who do you suspect would have lost...?
Cats must be licensed and never off of the property. Unfortunately it still doesn't stop people from thinking that they're exempt and make every excuse under the sun to justify why their cat should run wild, poop wherever, hunt under bird feeders especially in the spring during fledging. Is it the cats fault....of course not. Ignoring the nature of a cat is more a problem with the owners than with the public that has to put up with their lack of responsible ownership.
There are so many ways to give a cat access to the outdoors AND keep them on your property (in the city). The only reason that people don't do it is it's too much work/expense, ...excuses are easy and free.
My new neighbor across the street has a pit named Cash. Absolute sweetheart of a dog, overdone looking, intact, cropped, but VERY sweet. Cash is NEVER on a leash. I went and asked to pet him the other day and to explain my concern about Cash approaching Sophie while she's on leash (Sophie has been badly attacked and is reactive if approached QUICKLY while she has no flight option). The owner, who was really a nice young guy, had no clue that Cash had to be leashed when off of his property but also assured me that Cash would NEVER leave his front porch if a dog walked by. Not 2 minutes later Cash launched himself off of the porch and very rudely approached a puppy walking with his owner at least 5 houses away. I'm installing a gate on my front porch AND never walking my dogs in my own neighborhood again. If that pup had of been Sophie, the way that Cash approached....the fight would have been on. Who do you suspect would have lost...?
Cats must be licensed and never off of the property. Unfortunately it still doesn't stop people from thinking that they're exempt and make every excuse under the sun to justify why their cat should run wild, poop wherever, hunt under bird feeders especially in the spring during fledging. Is it the cats fault....of course not.
Ignoring the nature of a cat is more a problem with the owners than with the public that has to put up with their lack of responsible ownership.There are so many ways to give a cat access to the outdoors AND keep them on your property (in the city). The only reason that people don't do it is it's too much work/expense, ...excuses are easy and free.