would you own a dog-aggressive dog?
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I let the dogs out when I see a cat in my yard....
One day they caught one, and tried to make it their friend...
I haven't found cat turds in my garden since.
One day they caught one, and tried to make it their friend...
I haven't found cat turds in my garden since.
I don't sic my dogs on any animal, however, when the critters are in my yard and they head out potty, they better run fast!
And, my attitude may change if the dang stray cats, or neighbors cats whichever they are, keep jumping up and opening my trash and making a mess dont stop....No need to clean up and watch after someone elses cat they cant keep track of. It is just rude and irresponsible to have a cat and let it cause mischief and such on other people. Poo in your garden, kids sandboxes, then the kids get sick.....
Buy a dang litter box...keep the cat indoors. Or dont own one.
And, my attitude may change if the dang stray cats, or neighbors cats whichever they are, keep jumping up and opening my trash and making a mess dont stop....No need to clean up and watch after someone elses cat they cant keep track of. It is just rude and irresponsible to have a cat and let it cause mischief and such on other people. Poo in your garden, kids sandboxes, then the kids get sick.....
Buy a dang litter box...keep the cat indoors. Or dont own one.
Oh yeah! They really move! I think(hope) they would have the sense to back off of one that was going to stand its ground. Mochi has been stalked by cats on walks, you should see him tuck tail and run! :lol-sign: He also got jumped by a nasty cat in a pet store once. It came outta nowhere like a ninja and took a swat at him! He never saw it coming!
I truly and honestly have not seen a cat since that day. That one must have told all his buddies. I'm very glad to not have to deal with somebody's nasty cat poop every day. I seriously had to go scoop my garden every day, of the dogs would eat it. Who knows what sort of diseases or parasites they could get.
Outdoor cats are a huge pet peeve of mine. I don't see why I should have to deal with somebody else's cat poop. I have a cat and a litter box of my own to scoop, thanks very much.
I truly and honestly have not seen a cat since that day. That one must have told all his buddies. I'm very glad to not have to deal with somebody's nasty cat poop every day. I seriously had to go scoop my garden every day, of the dogs would eat it. Who knows what sort of diseases or parasites they could get.
Outdoor cats are a huge pet peeve of mine. I don't see why I should have to deal with somebody else's cat poop. I have a cat and a litter box of my own to scoop, thanks very much.
I am way, way behind on this thread, but I beg to differ. The ADBA registers something like 200,000 APBTs a year. (That doesn't even touch on how many UKC-registered APBTs, or AKC-registered AmStaffs there are. And that doesn't even cover all of the breeds considered Pit Bulls.) The AKC registers how many Labs? 165,000? So in light of those statistics -- and as you say, statistics do not lie -- why do you think there are millions more Labradors than Pit Bulls?
When I was trying to look up statistics on APBT, i noticed that most sites would not put a statistic on them because there were millions more of other breeds verses the amount of pitbulls out therein the world. Makes sense, how can you label, when you arent playing a fair game?
Millions more Labs, Cockapoos, chi's etc, millions mroe designer dogs...on and on.
Millions more Labs, Cockapoos, chi's etc, millions mroe designer dogs...on and on.
Word. Loki is my resident vermin exterminator. Yes, I LET, even encourage, her to seek out any mice or rats that come into the house, or any that she finds in the yard. That is a useful outlet for her hunting behavior, and I don't think we should be quelling these instincts in our dogs. Maybe some find the idea of a driveless dog that sits and waits for humans to tell it what to do all the time appealing -- yes, now I'm just being snarky -- but I feel like hunting drives are useful.
Just wanted to add on the topic of statistics, a book I was reading addressed that. I think it was Dogs Bite, But Balloons and Slippers are More Dangerous. It said that in order to come up with an idea of breed population, sometimes they just use the number of dogs registered in a city, which is notoriously incomplete. That same book said that the numbers for the "dog bite epidemic" of 4.something million came from a ridiculously small study group. Something like a few hundred, if I remember correctly. It was really a very interesting read.
So yeah, statisics do not lie, but they can be skewed and manipulated to show whatever the compiler wants them to show.
So yeah, statisics do not lie, but they can be skewed and manipulated to show whatever the compiler wants them to show.
Every night after dark, the dogs are soo used to seeing rabbits and such in the yard when they go outside, that when the door opens, the race is on. Dixie leads the pack growling and snarling, with the others behind, and Daizy bouncing up the back, and they head for all the obvious rabbit and cat spots in the yard. They do this for about 10 minutes or until they are convinced all trespassing critters are gone. Then pee and come in
I dont discourage it. They never catch anything. But I dont discourage it. They have fun, and they are protecting theyard.
And Baha, your comment on the driveless dog, I like it. I also sometimes feel that being too overbearing on your dog, such as it not doing anything (sniffing things on walks, etc) including not making a move without your say so, is not healthy. It gives the dog NO sense of self pride, or personality, or independance.
Sometimes, Dixie will be sleeping, and I will call her, just to pet her or something stupid, and she looks at me with those "PLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLease leave me sleep" eyes. I can tell she will come if I make her, but she really sometimes tries to put it off sometimes as well. I dont yell, I dont command, I didnt need her that bad for anything important anyways, but some people insist that dog be there on every stent, with not taking no for an answer.I let her sleep. Its my way of letting the dogs have independance, without hurting anything.
She knows the tone of my commands and has never failed me yet.
I dont discourage it. They never catch anything. But I dont discourage it. They have fun, and they are protecting theyard.
And Baha, your comment on the driveless dog, I like it. I also sometimes feel that being too overbearing on your dog, such as it not doing anything (sniffing things on walks, etc) including not making a move without your say so, is not healthy. It gives the dog NO sense of self pride, or personality, or independance.
Sometimes, Dixie will be sleeping, and I will call her, just to pet her or something stupid, and she looks at me with those "PLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLease leave me sleep" eyes. I can tell she will come if I make her, but she really sometimes tries to put it off sometimes as well. I dont yell, I dont command, I didnt need her that bad for anything important anyways, but some people insist that dog be there on every stent, with not taking no for an answer.I let her sleep. Its my way of letting the dogs have independance, without hurting anything.
She knows the tone of my commands and has never failed me yet.
Werd.
I did a massive paper on Pit Bull Bans, and reliable source after reliable source stated that it is currently impossible to truly number "Pit Bulls"... because of all of the registries, all of the breeds included in the term, ALL of the unregistered dogs and mixed dogs and dogs who are involved in underground fighting, etc. And, on top of that, you would need to gather the statistics of abusive/irresponsible homes that own a Pit Bull compared to a Lab. 30%, as much as 90%+ in urban areas, of dogs in shelters are Pitties. That alone proves that this is a breed that is all-too-commonly owned and exploited by crappy, irresponsible people... what does that have to do with the breed? Do the dogs choose their owner, at 8 weeks old? No.
But, for the record, I have met vastly more human AND dog aggressive (badly, badly bred) Labs than I have Pit Bulls.
I did a massive paper on Pit Bull Bans, and reliable source after reliable source stated that it is currently impossible to truly number "Pit Bulls"... because of all of the registries, all of the breeds included in the term, ALL of the unregistered dogs and mixed dogs and dogs who are involved in underground fighting, etc. And, on top of that, you would need to gather the statistics of abusive/irresponsible homes that own a Pit Bull compared to a Lab. 30%, as much as 90%+ in urban areas, of dogs in shelters are Pitties. That alone proves that this is a breed that is all-too-commonly owned and exploited by crappy, irresponsible people... what does that have to do with the breed? Do the dogs choose their owner, at 8 weeks old? No.
But, for the record, I have met vastly more human AND dog aggressive (badly, badly bred) Labs than I have Pit Bulls.
My dogs have killed a few cats on our property. I dont encourage it and if I see it in time I can call them off. But it can happen in a second and theres nothing I could do.I have neighbors that let their dogs roam on our land, they come right down in the yard and I have to call my dogs off them. It pisses me off when people wont keep their dogs on their own property and I have to be the one responsible that their dogs dont get hurt.My dogs listen well and I can call them off, but why should I have to always keep an eye out for other peoples animals on our own land?
This is very true in my situation. Duke is dog aggressive, well selective with new dogs. Its a 50-50 thing if he likes a new dog or not. He does go to a behaviorist now and she flat out said. You can work Duke to ignore other dogs and tolerate others but he will never be completely "fixed" to go out and never cause problems with other dogs again.
Ive excepted this, I excepted the fact he would never he able to enjoy the large dog park after he hit around a year. We do still go to the leash free park but it has a small fenced in area that Duke goes into by himself and then when dogs he does know come along they play with him. And everyonce in awhile he does make a new friend. But this is what I have to work with now. He's still allowed to have the same routine as he did when he wasnt dog aggressive by going to the park we just have to do it alittle differently.
Ive excepted this, I excepted the fact he would never he able to enjoy the large dog park after he hit around a year. We do still go to the leash free park but it has a small fenced in area that Duke goes into by himself and then when dogs he does know come along they play with him. And everyonce in awhile he does make a new friend. But this is what I have to work with now. He's still allowed to have the same routine as he did when he wasnt dog aggressive by going to the park we just have to do it alittle differently.
As a Czech ( well a native born U.S. citizen of Czech parents who didn't learn English until grade school) I would like to add that I would let my hounds sniff even if they were patrolling the Czech border. These days, though I am not sure why I am patrolling it.
Sniffing is their absolute favorite thing.
If you are using your walks to work and proof obedience, then allowing your dog to wander about sniffing is counter-minding those goals. If you are out for a simple pleasure walk, then by all means, let your dog sniff up a storm. But not every walk every time is a pleasure walk. I'm in the middle of teaching my dogs not only how to walk nicely together, but to ignore squirrels and rabbits as well as other dogs we pass. That's alot going on and if I were allowing them to follow their noses, we'd never get anywhere. I think there is a happy medium to be had, work the first part of the walk and then allow the dog to sniff to their heart's content for the latter half. Or something like that.
It all depends on the level you want your dog trained to, really.
It all depends on the level you want your dog trained to, really.