What do you personally believe in?...

[PixieSticksandTricks]

This is my favorite quotes from Margot Adler about Wicca so so true.

"We are not evil. We don't harm or seduce people. We are not dangerous. We are ordinary people like you. We have families, jobs, hopes, and dreams. We are not a cult. This religion is not a joke. We are not what you think we are from looking at T.V. We are real. We laugh, we cry. We are serious. We have a sense of humor. You don't have to be afraid of us. We don't want to convert you. And please don't try to convert us. Just give us the same right we give you--to live in peace. We are much more similar to you than you think." Margot Adler

 

[rottiegirl]

It's a proven fact that humans need companionship.

Usually if your attracted to someone and spend a lot of time with them stuff happens. Just the way it is.

Humans yearn for touch and feel etc, blah blah blah.

But that is a unique point of view. Never heard of that one before.

Well thats why they are forgiven for it. Its not their fault they feel that way, but at the same time homosexuality is wrong. Stuff happens but you still have the ability to choose.

 

[LabBreeder]

I thought god forgives everything. I believe he forgives everything.
God forgives, but not the things that he specifically said "don't do". Unless you didn't mean to do it and will never do it again.
I believe homosexuality is wrong, but I believe they are forgiven for it. They learn from their mistakes.
It is wrong. How can you be forgiven for something that you know God said "don't do" yet you do it again and again and again?

I really do not believe in hell. People made it up as scare tactic, and its a good one at that, because it works.
Hell is mentioned in the Bible, numerous times as quotes from Jesus (see the last long post I made with biblical references.).

When you commit suicide you do go to heaven, but not for long. You are imediately pushed back into life. Born again into a similar life that you exited, because god wants you to do it all over again, but this time succeed.
You do not go to heaven at all. You may be 'born again' but show me where it says that suicide's will be born again in the Bible.

Life is all about learning, and how is anyone supposed to learn when they are thrown to hell for eternity? Sounds harsh to me. God is'nt like that. He is more caring than that.

You had the chance to learn in life. You knew Gods commandments and what was asked of you yet you threw it all away by choosing not to listen/obey his words. He is caring, yes. But all are given a chance and those that choose to not love and obey God choose hell.

You have your beliefs and I have mine. It's up to God to determine who goes to heaven and who doesn't. I know from history and Biblical references that what I believe is correct. However, if you're religion or belief system interprets the Bible differently that's their business. I choose to believe in the Catholic faith and will do so til the day I die. I may not follow everything to the letter, but I do believe. - End of story

 

[LabBreeder]

I don't know if you choose to be gay or are born that way. It doesn't matter. You can choose to NOT disobey God and his commandments regardless. If you choose to sleep with a person of the same sex then you've chosen to disobey God. I believe homesexuals have a place in the church as long as they are celbate. Even though unclean thoughts are considered sinful, they are more easily forgiven because they were not acted upon. Spilling your "seed" is also sinful because you are 'killing' potential life. It's all in the Bible.

 

[Dani]

The problem with calling homosexuality wrong is that it is only wrong if you believe in God, and all of his teachings. If you don't, then it makes no sense to have so much negativity towards something so unimportant, and which is nobody's business.

I'm hetero by the way lol.

 

[Roxy's CD]

Spilling your "seed" is also sinful because you are 'killing' potential life.

Wouldn't that make masterbating a sin for men than?

 

[Citrus007]

I'm Christain but have no denomination. I feel they all have gone so far off track. I mean some denominations were made jsut so they could get away from the rules. I do read the bible and pray and try to follow God but its hard because I don't go to church since I don't know which one.

 

[rottiegirl]

Originally Posted by rottiegirl
I thought god forgives everything. I believe he forgives everything.
God forgives, but not the things that he specifically said "don't do". Unless you didn't mean to do it and will never do it again.
I believe homosexuality is wrong, but I believe they are forgiven for it. They learn from their mistakes.
It is wrong. How can you be forgiven for something that you know God said "don't do" yet you do it again and again and again?

I really do not believe in hell. People made it up as scare tactic, and its a good one at that, because it works.
Hell is mentioned in the Bible, numerous times as quotes from Jesus (see the last long post I made with biblical references.).

When you commit suicide you do go to heaven, but not for long. You are imediately pushed back into life. Born again into a similar life that you exited, because god wants you to do it all over again, but this time succeed.
You do not go to heaven at all. You may be 'born again' but show me where it says that suicide's will be born again in the Bible.

Life is all about learning, and how is anyone supposed to learn when they are thrown to hell for eternity? Sounds harsh to me. God is'nt like that. He is more caring than that.

When and where did god specificaly say dont do this or that? The bible? Well I dont believe most things in the bible. Its full of quotes from man, not god.

what about all the people who have different beliefs? Lets say a person is gay and doesnt believe being gay is wrong, because they have doubts of gods existence? You cant go and say that they knew being gay was wrong. You cant say that god directly told him not to do it, and for all that, he is thrown in hell. Well thats not right in my book. I do not think god would do that. He would forgive.

Of course hell is mentioned in the bible. It wouldnt be a very good scare tactic if it wasnt. Man put it into the bible. I dont believe 90% of the stuff thats in there. Just because people say its a quote from jesus, doesnt mean that it really is.

That is what I believe.

 

[Citrus007]

When and where did god specificaly say dont do this or that? The bible? Well I dont believe most things in the bible. Its full of quotes from man, not god.

The bible was written by God through man using the Holy Spirit, at least that is what I have been taught and believe in.

 

[tessa_s212]

The bible was written by God through man using the Holy Spirit, at least that is what I have been taught and believe in.

*nods* Agreed.

 

[tessa_s212]

I'm Christain but have no denomination. I feel they all have gone so far off track. I mean some denominations were made jsut so they could get away from the rules. I do read the bible and pray and try to follow God but its hard because I don't go to church since I don't know which one.

I don't really go to church either. Though, I hope to soon. If my mom allows me to. I have been going to Wednesday night church with three of my guy friends when I can. But this entire summer I could only go three times so far. But I think the church Ive been going to is non denominational. Is there any of those in your area?

 

[Citrus007]

I'm not sure but nondenominational is technically a denomination lol. But it is mich better because it tries to stay away from denominational things.

 

[LabBreeder]

Some people are going to not believe or have their own form of beliefs. Some want to argue just for the sake of arguing. If you think homosexuality is fine and that there is no hell, then I hope for your sake you are right.

As far as churches going by the wayside. The only 2 denominations that were ever "original" are the Jewish and Catholic faiths. All other denominations and beliefs branched off from there.

The Bible is written by man, with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, from God with quotes from Jesus. It's not strictly man made.

Roxy- technically yes, men are commiting a sinful act by masturbating...but I don't know if it's consider "hell bound" worthy. LOL Most men don't even know it's sinful unless they've read the Bible and go to church very regularly.

 

[rottiegirl]

The bible was written by God through man using the Holy Spirit, at least that is what I have been taught and believe in.

Yes, well I just believe that to be false.

 

[LabBreeder]

That's fine. Don't believe. All you can do is hope you're right when your time comes to be judged. Do you believe in God? Do you believe in heaven/hell? Do you believe in the 10 commandments?

What do you believe rottie?

 

[rottiegirl]

Some people are going to not believe or have their own form of beliefs. Some want to argue just for the sake of arguing. If you think homosexuality is fine and that there is no hell, then I hope for your sake you are right.

As far as churches going by the wayside. The only 2 denominations that were ever "original" are the Jewish and Catholic faiths. All other denominations and beliefs branched off from there.

The Bible is written by man, with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, from God with quotes from Jesus. It's not strictly man made.

Roxy- technically yes, men are commiting a sinful act by masturbating...but I don't know if it's consider "hell bound" worthy. LOL Most men don't even know it's sinful unless they've read the Bible and go to church very regularly.

I am just curious as to how you believe that the bible is written in the words of god. Because you were told so?

In that case, aliens created us because I was told so. Not really, but I am just making a point.

I dont think any one religion is right or wrong. That is for the individual person to decide. There is nothing wrong with believing in something even if there is no proof.

I do know that it is easy for people to defend their religion by saying... "its written in the bible, so its true".

 

[Citrus007]

Like I once heard in a quote, I would rather die to find out there is no God than die to find out there is and all these years I haven't believed in Him.

 

[tessa_s212]

Jesus quoted from the Bible. Jesus was perfect. Would Jesus quote from a bible that He did not feel was worthy of us to live by?

 

[rottiegirl]

That's fine. Don't believe. All you can do is hope you're right when your time comes to be judged. Do you believe in God? Do you believe in heaven/hell? Do you believe in the 10 commandments?

What do you believe rottie?

I do believe in god. God is very real in my eyes.

Like I said before. Hell is a scare tactic and nothing more. And it obviously works.

Everyone is judged. We will all get to see the real truth once we die, but until then we will always have our doubts about this or that.

I believe in heaven, and I believe god is not as cruel to send people onto a firey pit for eternity just because they grew up with different beliefs or because they made the split second mistake of commiting suicide because their problems were too much to bare. These people get second chances. Or even third chances and so on.

I dont think god gives up on anyone.

I dont believe in karma. Life was meant to be unfair.

I do believe in reincarnation.

I hope nobody gets offended by what I have said. Thats not what I want to do. I am just explaining my beliefs. I know that religion debates can get intense.

 

[LabBreeder]

Rottiegirl - You either believe and have faith or you don't. I do. You don't. That's the difference. If you don't want to believe in God then don't. No one is forcing you to. But don't put down and make it a joke for those of us that do believe.

I believe in God, the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth.
I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord. He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary. He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried. He descended into hell.
On the third day he rose again. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting.