I dont think I said anything about the questions being tough. I had a hard time hearing most of it, but I picked up that question and the one about him conceding. His other questions may have required the answers from "easy" questions to expose him for the lying piece of power hungry crap he is. I also heard Kerry and many other politicians asked a lot of questions, and any that have any bite to them arent allowed. When you think about "why didnt you impeach Bush? The true answer may have reflected poorly on him.
University Of Florida Student Tasered At John Kerry Speech
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When you stop and think that Clinton was impeached over a blow job and yet no one has the temerity to impeach Shrub for blowing the job so spectacularly - and criminally. I've never even remotely been a fan of Clinton's, but compared to Shrub?
Our downward slide has turned into a vortex. Like unto a toilet flushing.
Our downward slide has turned into a vortex. Like unto a toilet flushing.
It should have been rephrased "Mr. Kerry, since you took an oath to your office and your constituency, to protect our Constitution, why did you not seek impeachment proceedings on Bush who has violated it several times? You condemn his actions, yet you dont try to stop it. Why is that?"
I would like for all democrat voters to hear what he would say to that, not that it would matter.
I would like for all democrat voters to hear what he would say to that, not that it would matter.
What a whiny little bitch! Apparently he shoved his way in front of other students who were waiting to ask questions, then he goes on a diatribe before he even asks a question. "Why didn't you impeach Bush" "were you a member of a secret society?". Those are pretty stupid questions really. He clearly had an agenda to disrupt the proceedings. Did you see all the people getting up to leave when he started talking? It's like they knew him. His big mistake was not going along with the security people. As soon as he starts to pull away, that's resisting arrest. I think he deserved everything he got. I don't disagree with his platform, I think Bush and his cronies are running our country into the ground, but the way this kid went about it was all wrong. Too bad they didn't have a dog, it would have been nice to see some bite work on a snivelling fool.
Anyone with the chutzpah to ask a question like that definitely isn't a newcomer to "turd stirring". 
Regardless of his motivations and in spite of his methods... Good for him.
As for John Kerry, but one word needs be said. "LOSER"
He was following the methods used in the late sixties. Protestor "leaders" really made politicians squirm like that all the time. They came out of the woodwork, put them on the spot, embarrassed them. Then they got hauled away and made the news. You rant, you resist you get on TV. Thus you make your point that would otherwise be ignored by the people who rule our lives. Staged for sure, but that still doesn't negate his right to do it.
You know I have no love of Schrub, but... Bubba was impeached for perjury. BIG difference.
(please read on before anyone gets panties in bunch...)
I cannot argue that Schrub has committed impeachable offences. Too bad the Dems are too concerned with politics to do the right thing. NONE of them care about us, they care about their power.
:hail:
I am waiting until they come for our guns... Then it is game on. They try to take the last thing that gives us power over them and they FORCE our hand.
(please read on before anyone gets panties in bunch...)
I cannot argue that Schrub has committed impeachable offences. Too bad the Dems are too concerned with politics to do the right thing. NONE of them care about us, they care about their power.
:hail:
I am waiting until they come for our guns... Then it is game on. They try to take the last thing that gives us power over them and they FORCE our hand.
Come on, let's get serious. I'm getting quite frustrated with this notion that we should not question our leaders. If you watched the Petraeus hearing last week, you saw the same thing. Two of the committee chairs blatantly said (paraphrasing here) "It is disrespectful to ask such questions of General Petraeus during a time of war".
During time of war is the BEST time to ask such questions, especially considering this administration's well-documented history of blatant censorship (e.g., environmental reports). What makes us think that the White House won't also censor the war reports?
Again, it is absolutely true that the Florida student was intentionally trying to ask tough questions. By "tough" I mean that they aren't the typical soft meaningless questions that usually get asked. However, none of his questions were unreasonable, and all of them deserved to be answered. When civil discourse with our political leaders is constrained, what do we have left? We have leaders who get the idea that they can do whatever they want and are never held accountable.
You know, the most disturbing part of this entire incident is the number of people that are coming out and saying that the student got what he deserved. If we as a nation are starting to forget our basic (inalienable!) rights, then it seems we're headed down a rather terrifying path (of our own making!).
I am watching the upcoming election with great interest. At this point, I don't see any candidate that is worthy of my vote, so I'll probably end up keeping it to myself. However, that also makes me squirm, because the phrase "by your silence, I take it you agree" is so applicable here. I already know that my vote doesn't mean dick-all these days but I want my right to bitch and if you don't vote, can you still complain? We already know that the groups who stand up and don't vote aren't looked upon as demonstrators, they're labeled "apathetic" and pushed to the side again.
So who's up for organzing a sessession? I can see this country dissolving into civil war again more and more easily, especially depending on the outcome of the next election.
So who's up for organzing a sessession?
I can see this country dissolving into civil war again more and more easily, especially depending on the outcome of the next election.He did exactly what war protesters in the vietnam era did. Ask "hard" questions, make a scene, then resist arrest to get publicity. If he had gone up there and asked his questions without pontificating, we'd never know who he is because he wouldn't have been asked to leave, wouldn't have had to "resist" arrest. This was a planned action by him, not something that came as any surprise to him. He wasn't pulled off the podium for the questions he asked, he was pulled off for not following instructions. Notice how the crowd cheered when they pulled him away- they knew what he was about.
So who's up for organzing a sessession? I can see this country dissolving into civil war again more and more easily, especially depending on the outcome of the next election.
I can see this country dissolving into civil war again more and more easily, especially depending on the outcome of the next election.
Revolution, sure... Civil War?? I doubt it. I mean, how are the lefties going to wage it? They are mostly unarmed and more importantly, have no idea HOW to wage armed conflict. LOL Hippes/peaceniks/your average lefty, NEEDS the power on, grocery stores open, and a viable police force functioning, else they cease to have any tools available with which to "express themselves". The police especially... I mean, how else would they be able to physically defend themselves from we "gun nuts"?? LOL
You know what I mean?
Basically (and this is getting a smidge off topic, but what else is new?), as I see it... One side of the county needs (and dare I say ASSUMES) that the physical infrastrutcure we currently enjoy is infinite and will always exist. At least part of the other side is capable to surviving when the power goes out and the stores are closed. And lets be real... If the dookie really hit the circular air moving device, what do you think happens?
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He's pontificating because he asked an actual question, and prefaced it with some reputable journalism? Remember, Kerry himself claimed he also read the book!
I imagine that he fully intended to ask his pointed questions and watch Kerry squirm around trying to answer them. Afterward, he'd take the videos and post them on his website and/or Youtube and get a few chuckles. Maybe he'd even send them to John Stewart. I doubt that he ever intended for the situation to escalate as it did. And it would never have escalated like that if the police hadn't intervened, which they had NO RIGHT to do!
All that said, you'd also be mad as hell if you read through Armed Madhouse (or any of the many similar recent books). The plethora of evidence of blatant corruption in this administration should lead citizens to ask tough questions and hold our leaders accountable. Imagine now how many people, who otherwise would've asked similar questions, will (out of fear) avoid such discourse.
Think we aren't being censored? How about AOL and Microsoft blocking Truthout.org communications:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/091307Z.shtml
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/091307Z.shtml