University Of Florida Student Tasered At John Kerry Speech

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That's a little sketchy all the way around...it seems to me like the kid is a drama queen and you can't ever actually see if he was tasered or not. However, with the amount of resistance he was putting up, I can see why the police might have done it. Again, not try to be wishy-washy but you can't SEE him getting tasered.

If I were Kerry, I wouldn't have tried to answer that question until the whole thing was over either, it would have been pointless because not one person was focused on him anymore. The cops were whispering amongst themselves almost as soon as the kid took the microphone and hauled him out when he started yelling "Impeach Bush".

Interesting at any rate. At least the kids got to ask questions.
 

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Horay for the security staff! Let me bet- they will transfer to the LAPD and get a big promotion right away! :rolleyes:

I love how they are so trained and qualified that they stand around and whisper into one another ear before they do something.
 

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Well he must have done something to inspire getting tasered, and its non lethal so I say buttercup should suck it up

Did you even watch the video? He asked a couple tough questions, then police started to detain him, and he was infuriated because he CLEARLY had done nothing wrong. Was he trying to be a pest? Yes! It's perfectly legal to ask tough questions! Was there any reason for the police to intervene in the first place? NO!

The downward spiral was started by an inappropriate intervention of the police. They are responsible for what happened, and should all be suspended (or fired!) accordingly. The student that was assaulted should be issued a formal apology from the police department, the school, and John Kerry.
 

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Well, he shouldn't have been arrested, I don't think. But he should have cooperated with the police. Resisting arrest is kind of asking for trouble.

Plus, I heard it wasn't actually a taser...??? anyone else hear that?

Can you really blame him for becoming upset when he was illegally detained? He was asking well-founded and important questions, and I for one would have loved to hear the answers. Resisting arrest at that point is quite understandable in my opinion.

I haven't heard anything about it not being a taser, and I'd be quite surprised if it wasn't. It certainly sounded like one!
 

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I don't know why, but this made me tear up. Probably because of our country's incompetence and insistence to do unnecessary things and use unnecessary force. I dislike this country very much.
 

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That's a little sketchy all the way around...it seems to me like the kid is a drama queen and you can't ever actually see if he was tasered or not. However, with the amount of resistance he was putting up, I can see why the police might have done it. Again, not try to be wishy-washy but you can't SEE him getting tasered.

If I were Kerry, I wouldn't have tried to answer that question until the whole thing was over either, it would have been pointless because not one person was focused on him anymore. The cops were whispering amongst themselves almost as soon as the kid took the microphone and hauled him out when he started yelling "Impeach Bush".

Interesting at any rate. At least the kids got to ask questions.

Like I said before, the student obviously came in with the intention of asking some pressing and controversial questions. The appropriate reaction from John Kerry upon the police intervention would have been to firmly insist that the police release the student and allow the question to be completed.

Instead, Kerry stood up there and mumbled some nonsense while the guy is on the ground desperately SCREAMING for help. Kerry should be ashamed of himself for allowing the situation to deteriorate like it did.

And let's get serious, if law enforcement ever thought Kerry was in danger of physical harm, they would have swept him off the stage in a blink of an eye. The police didn't arrest the student because he was a physical threat; they arrested him for asking tough questions, plain and simple.
 

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I don't know why, but this made me tear up. Probably because of our country's incompetence and insistence to do unnecessary things and use unnecessary force. I dislike this country very much.

I don't blame you! It was absolutely horrifying. If this was the first time I'd ever seen (or heard about) such brutality, I'd probably tear up too. After reading Howard Zinn, I'm really not surprised too much by police brutality. That said, I'm intensely disturbed by that video.

My only hope is that this video is wide-spread enough on the internet to have a significant social impact before the next election.

Wouldn't it be nice if someone at Kerry's next rally goes up to the mic and says "Now Mr. Kerry, could you please answer the questions of the student down in Florida?"
 

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That's a little sketchy all the way around...it seems to me like the kid is a drama queen
I was looking at his site and there was a link to a kind of message board blog and it seems that he is a Known entity in terms of turd stirring. There was some mention from posters that he is a ranter and they hoped he learned a lesson about getting his message out. So it is highly possible that the campus police were ready to take him out soon as he tried something. But still.....he didn't appear to be harming anyone and was just invoking his constitutional right to free speech, whatever that is anymore. I think the thing that bothers me most is that Kerry didn't just say to them, Wait! Let's give him another 60 seconds and I will answer his questions. Given all that has been coming down with silencing people and in fact hand-picking audiences that are allowed to attend presidential speeches, and carting people off for wearing T-shirts that say the wrong thing, I would have thought that Mr. Kerry, who claimed to see things differently, would have had the courage to stop this same kind of thing from happening in his own swamp. One word from him and this would have ended another way. But I know I shouldn't be disappointed in him. They are all One, these people in charge of our lives. The last presidential election was the first time in my life that I didn't pull a lever for the office of President.
 

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I was looking at his site and there was a link to a kind of message board blog and it seems that he is a Known entity in terms of turd stirring.

Anyone with the chutzpah to ask a question like that definitely isn't a newcomer to "turd stirring". ;)
 

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Maybe these goofs need to know what these things feel like before they pass laws making it ok to use it on actual humans.
Interestingly enough, a couple of years ago here it was being debated whether or not to allow security officers in the local high schools to have tasers. The sheriff here got tasered for demonstration and, I guess, to see what it was really like. They played this over and over on the news. It looked pretty intense!
 
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He was asked repeatedly by orginizers to get to a question after Mr "D Student" Kerry spent 2 hours talking, the senator has a limitted amount of time for a Q&A session.

What tough questions, I heard ranting? IMHO he didnt want answers he wanted to emberass Kerry. They seemed to be aplauding the officers for removing somebody who wanted to start trouble and wasting time better spent for calmer more intelligent people with questions.

It is possible he was tazered but at least 2 officers had physical contact with him, skin is a great conductor for electricity.
 
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Why the hell was he getting arrested in the first place. WTF? This should be all over the news! That is the scariest freaking thing I've ever seen.
Guess you didn't see the bit back before the last election where two women showed up at a Shrub rally wearing anti-Shrub tee shirts . . . . and got hauled off to jail.

Or the REALLY scary little incident before the elections when Dick Cheney "suggested" that the elections should be "postponed" because the terrorists were going to take advantage of that and make another hit.

There's been all sorts of really, really scary sh!t going on for quite some time.
 
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He was asking questions that should have been answered. When we cheer for police interference when corrupt politicians cant come up with a good lie, we are in a sad state of affairs. I think some people would have been just fine with taking the kid out in the street and shooting him. Our politicians need to be forced to answer our questions, instead we condemn the questioner and applaud the gestapo for bringing them down. If the kid got violent and hit someone then I could see tazing, but if that many security agents couldnt handle the situation without resorting to that maybe they should sell cookies or something.
 

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