You don't have to use one, or even like it, but jeez, when crap is put up as "proof" and you have people puking up info that is crap as "proof" and there have been examples of animals that don't display any of the dire warnings we're always given, what should we all do? Just fall in, step in line and repeat after you?
Pardon me, but all I did was provide what the OP REQUESTED, regardless of whether YOU agree with it or not, regardless of whether someone thinks it is bias. Again, at least give something to counter it, that IS published and leave the personal opinions aside. I am sure that the OP would like to have more than one referance to base an opinion on.
Personally I am not going to spend my money purchasing articles on it that are published online......... they are out there, just go read the abstracts, but you'll only get a taste or feel of the article and not the conclusions.
To the OP, not wanting a National Debate? How could you post such as request on a dog forum and not expect it turn into one? When this is such a highly debated and heated topic?
Tsume'sMom
I did not challenge the training methods, I challenged anyone to provide a link to an article to refute the one that I posted, since some didn't like it or thought it was bias.
Unless anyone has missed it, I have not given a personal opinion on any method