Rescue -- Just Not Into It?
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It doesn't bother me most people have that opinion but no one takes the time to read some of the beautiful lyrics that band comes up with. Like "
I will never hurt you again,because I want to hold you close like I always did before" I don't hear many american bands say things like that.
I will never hurt you again,because I want to hold you close like I always did before" I don't hear many american bands say things like that.
LMAO CP
I agree with Miakoda that weight pull is not work. My opinion of work is when its necessary and you greatly benefit from it. Like, herding on a farm that needs that service is work, herding trials are not. It's a sport activity, like weight pull.
I agree with Miakoda that weight pull is not work. My opinion of work is when its necessary and you greatly benefit from it. Like, herding on a farm that needs that service is work, herding trials are not. It's a sport activity, like weight pull.
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If you feel a good, ethical breeder better serves your needs -=shrug=- ... nothing wrong with that. You just don't want to adopt a rescue dog for yourself. But you are involved with rescue in a sense ... by picking up strays, fixing them up, training them, then finding them awesome homes. Sounds like you're just doing it on your own as the need arises, rather than through a group. That's cool too.
There ya go! No harm in looking, right? Really is true you never know what gems you might find .... and as long as you know your favorite breed, you already know what to look for.
There ya go! No harm in looking, right? Really is true you never know what gems you might find .... and as long as you know your favorite breed, you already know what to look for.
Gonzo is from rescue, and he would be INVALUABLE to any rancher... he would be the perfect stock/family/guard dog in one, and would work every single day if he was given the opportunity. Our herding trainer flat out told me that he needs a more experienced handler because he's miles ahead of me and my understanding of stockwork.
I think it's very, very unfair to discount the abilities of all rescue dogs. Fozzie might not be the quintessential working dog, but he's incredibly bright, kicks all of the Border Collie and German Shepherd bootays in Obedience & Rallyo, and he's the perfect therapy dog. I adopted him as a puppy, and he has grown up to be trustworthy with any person or animal, in any situation. It's all about being very careful, doing your research, and adopting from a caring/ethical rescue group. Fozzie was raised by wonderful foster parents and his Mom was a very friendly dog; I was willing to take the chance because he needed a good home, he was a very outgoing and confident puppy, and I was positive that I could properly socialize and raise him into a stable adult dog.
I have nothing against buying purebred dogs... I wanted to buy a puppy from a reputable breeder, but ended up rescuing both times. :/ It's not guilt that has made me do it. I honestly feel that it's fate. Both times I just happened to stumble upon each of my dogs and they fit me perfectly! They both do dog sports and have stable temperaments. I do want a purebred dog that I can show/work/and possibly breed someday, but my rescue dogs are not worth any less, and my dogs will always be companions first and foremost.
I think it's very, very unfair to discount the abilities of all rescue dogs. Fozzie might not be the quintessential working dog, but he's incredibly bright, kicks all of the Border Collie and German Shepherd bootays in Obedience & Rallyo, and he's the perfect therapy dog. I adopted him as a puppy, and he has grown up to be trustworthy with any person or animal, in any situation. It's all about being very careful, doing your research, and adopting from a caring/ethical rescue group. Fozzie was raised by wonderful foster parents and his Mom was a very friendly dog; I was willing to take the chance because he needed a good home, he was a very outgoing and confident puppy, and I was positive that I could properly socialize and raise him into a stable adult dog.
I have nothing against buying purebred dogs... I wanted to buy a puppy from a reputable breeder, but ended up rescuing both times. :/ It's not guilt that has made me do it. I honestly feel that it's fate. Both times I just happened to stumble upon each of my dogs and they fit me perfectly! They both do dog sports and have stable temperaments. I do want a purebred dog that I can show/work/and possibly breed someday, but my rescue dogs are not worth any less, and my dogs will always be companions first and foremost.
Redboy blood is controversial in terms of it being able to stand alone and work and produce these days, and the term OFRN is thrown about as much as "Boudreaux" and "Carver".
True old school OFRN blood is hard to come by these days. More often than not you're getting 75+ lb dogs bred for size and UKC showring ability and that's about it. I've got some dogs down from old Hemphill/Wilder stuff, but I got it from a reliabe person who has been running the blood for over 40 years. Nowadays you get the crap from the Camelot lines and that's not even relatable. They call it "OFRN", but just b/c one calls a duck a swan does make it really a swan.
As for shelter dogs, feel free to leave them be. But understand that you can indeed obtain a limited registration on such a dog and that dog can enter pull events as well as fun shows (as long as it's spayed/neutered which any and all shelter dogs should be). And of course you can always pull with the IWPA.
And like Pops mentioned, no one needs papers to hunt with a dog.
I'm curious what you would think about some of those Wildside dogs that ended up in the shelters. I supposed you would've just scoffed at them and walked away as well because after all they are coming from a shelter.............
I'm not trying to argue shelter vs. breeder because each has it's place. But that's just it...each has its purpose and place.
True old school OFRN blood is hard to come by these days. More often than not you're getting 75+ lb dogs bred for size and UKC showring ability and that's about it. I've got some dogs down from old Hemphill/Wilder stuff, but I got it from a reliabe person who has been running the blood for over 40 years. Nowadays you get the crap from the Camelot lines and that's not even relatable. They call it "OFRN", but just b/c one calls a duck a swan does make it really a swan.
As for shelter dogs, feel free to leave them be. But understand that you can indeed obtain a limited registration on such a dog and that dog can enter pull events as well as fun shows (as long as it's spayed/neutered which any and all shelter dogs should be). And of course you can always pull with the IWPA.
And like Pops mentioned, no one needs papers to hunt with a dog.
I'm curious what you would think about some of those Wildside dogs that ended up in the shelters. I supposed you would've just scoffed at them and walked away as well because after all they are coming from a shelter.............
I'm not trying to argue shelter vs. breeder because each has it's place. But that's just it...each has its purpose and place.
I am thinking how many search and rescue, movie dogs, and more are mixed breeds or rescues. i will always believe dogs are so much more capable than we give them credit for. We just don't know how to ask. Try raising the bar and with rare exception they will not fail you. In other words, you get what you put in and that has more to do with how a dog works then his humble or not beginnings. If it were at all possible for me to entertain the dream of having one more dog no matter how much money I was given I would not search out a breeder. I would go straight to petfinder and begin looking. It took me 2 weeks to find Victor. Days of no, no,no. no.....but the heart knows and when you are hit by that wave of certainty then you know that is the right dog. The rest is up to you. I am a big believer in fate. It has yet to let me down.