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I really have felt lately like God has been all but slapping me upside the head to get me to notice he's with me all the time. Maybe I need one of those smacks...lol. It might do me some good. All joking aside.. I think this has been a guidance for me to get more in tune with my faith. I have to stop making excuses for why I don't have time to read the bible, or to attend church regularly, or to really try hard to omit the things in my life I know do not make him happy. I know he is a loving God and forgives anything.. but I want to please him. No one ever told me that accepthing christ into your life would be soooooo dang hard. These trials are for the birds.. but I know everyone must face them time to time. I've even heard some say they embrace them because it brings them closer to God. I haven't found a way to embrace them yet.. I just wanna vomit on them and say "GO AWAY".
 

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Originally Posted by M&M's Mommy
The Bible IS truly the Word of God. Even though God did not literally write the Bible, He inspired it. Once cannot believe in God, if he/she doesn't believe in the Bible.
The Bible is the word of God, and he did inspire it, BUT it was written by the interpretations of the men that God spoke to..... IMO

As far as the sex before marriage, I dont believe that it is wrong...

Just say that I had waited till i was married before having sex, if I did that and we werent compatible (you know what I mean ;)) would I have to stay with this man *till death do us part* that I *thought* I had chemistry with...?? I know I wouldnt, so wouldnt it be better to try the waters persay, than to keep getting married and divored with people that I thought I had chemistry with...
 
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I must say i am not getting into the "God" part of this thread........but i wanted to add that i don't believe that sex before marraige is wrong.
After all........theres nothing wrong with using the "Tester" before buying the "Product" :D


The Bible is the word of God, and he did inspire it, BUT it was written by the interpretations of the men that God spoke to..... IMO

As far as the sex before marriage, I dont believe that it is wrong...

Just say that I had waited till i was married before having sex, if I did that and we werent compatible (you know what I mean ;)) would I have to stay with this man *till death do us part* that I *thought* I had chemistry with...?? I know I wouldnt, so wouldnt it be better to try the waters persay, than to keep getting married and divored with people that I thought I had chemistry with...
Had i not have had sex before marrying my DH, i wouldn't have even dreamt of divorcing him if the "Bedroom Chemistry" wasn't right.
I didn't marry him for that.........I married him b/c i love him :)
 

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I must say i am not getting into the "God" part of this thread........but i wanted to add that i don't believe that sex before marraige is wrong.
After all........theres nothing wrong with using the "Tester" before buying the "Product"



Had i not have had sex before marrying my DH, i wouldn't have even dreamt of divorcing him if the "Bedroom Chemistry" wasn't right.
I didn't marry him for that.........I married him b/c i love him :)
Of course ;) I know that isnt a reason for marrying or divorcing and I more than likely wouldnt do that myself...:) I was just trying to make a point.....:)
 
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Which is a bigger sin: sex before marriage with someone you love, or staying in a truely loveless marriage, having sex because you're "supposed" to. Or even just staying in the loveless marriage, each person hating the other more and more with every passing day, but neither agreeing to a divorce because it's a "sin". To me, continuing with something that fosters hatred and ill-will is the bigger sin.
 

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Which is a bigger sin: sex before marriage with someone you love, or staying in a truely loveless marriage, having sex because you're "supposed" to. Or even just staying in the loveless marriage, each person hating the other more and more with every passing day, but neither agreeing to a divorce because it's a "sin". To me, continuing with something that fosters hatred and ill-will is the bigger sin.
Thats what I was trying to get at :) you just said it alot better than I did :)
 

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Morals morals morals.

Like I think i said before.

It's all relative.

Even in religion! You have some "rules" but different people read the same thing and interpret it differently to the next person!!

I mean...

People seem to pick and choose which bits suit them, and then say, it's ok to do that.

But surely, you should all be following the same stuff the same, or it's pointless?

Wow - my grasp of the english language tonight is outstanding :D

I just don't think you can rely on some book, written a squillion years ago to doall the dirty work and decide what is wrong and what is right.

What about the person INSIDE YOU.

I just wish people had more faith in THEMSELVES to make a good or bad decision. To decide for THEMSELVES what they should or should not do.

Are people that despaired that they don't think that humans can be good and kind and MORAL without the help of some higher being?

Morals, are basically essentially translated as - good and bad.

Or - at what point do I feel I have done wrong/feel guilty.

The bible leaves somuch open for personal interpretation - and gets people so CONFUSED about what they can or can't do!!

Waffle waffle blah blah blah... I was supposed to be in bed an hour ago.

Go and hug a tree - it will do you the world of good. Or pick a flower and walk barefoot. Connect with YOURSELF.

ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......................

*collapses in a heap and snores*
 

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Buckshot, you would be interested to know that when a woman has ovulated a man can in fact "smell" it. Men are on a whole, nicer to women who are fertile.

Hmmm, I knew a gal from Leesville Louisianna that I could smell. I cant say that I was very nice to her at all. I couldnt wait for her to get in the water at Toledo bend. I think if she hadnt gone swimming she would have had to find another ride home. Perhaps it wasnt ovulation, does ovulation smell like an anchovies ass?
 

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The thread debating whether lying for a reason is a sin made me think about things. I have VERY recently accepted God into my life but am having HUGE problems with allot of the Dogma involved.

My major argument is that whole story about sex before marrige being a sin. Marrige is a Pagan ritual that was adopted by the governers of I think Rome to control over population of the pesants (Pagans). Can someone please explain to me how, if I deeply love my boyfriend and am in a monogomous relationship with him, is having sex with him wrong?

He is a Christian, he has been saved and believes emphatically that Jesus died for our sins. I say that that is all good and well, and I beleive it too, but, I have a problem with the man made Dogma that places such heavy restrictions on Christians.

I agree that lying, stealing and murder etc are wrong. But allot of the things seem a little silly to me. So what, you have a couple of drinks, giggle a bit and wake up with a hangover. That is not a sin in my mind. That is just some fun. For me, as long as I don't hurt anyone I do not see that behaviour as wrong.

Same with sex before marrige. I am not hurting anyone by being intimate with a man I am in love with. I am faithful to him and would do what ever it takes to be there for him. So to me it is not a silly fling.

I really enjoy reading the religious "debates" on this forum as I think there are many intelligent people on this board and they have helped my develop my own faith and opinions through their discussions.

Please, can we keep this friendly!!! Thank you!
My opinion, (note this is my opinion) This is between you and your boyfriend and God. Personally I would wait, because I have been told the best this you can give to your spouse on your wedding night is your virginity. But, Like I said, this is between you and your boyfriend and God. So I would talk with God about this.
 

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:yikes: ....just be glad there are products today and tampax !!! My mother had a friend who could draw cats from three provinces away !!!!! There was one in my class too!. Back in my day it was called " being on the rag " and believe me many were !!
 

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My opinion, (note this is my opinion) This is between you and your boyfriend and God. Personally I would wait, because I have been told the best this you can give to your spouse on your wedding night is your virginity. But, Like I said, this is between you and your boyfriend and God. So I would talk with God about this.
I grew up hearing this over and over and over and never questioned it until I got older. But when you think about it, it's really an incredibly demeaning statement. "The best thing you can give your spouse is your virginity." Basically it takes all that you are, and all that you can be, and tosses it aside in favor of a very tiny bit of skin (that can easily be 'torn' by a number of non-sexual activities prior to sex)between your legs. Why isn't the love and respect between the two of you enough? Why isn't the commitment the best thing? What is soooo special about virginity, especially in these days where bloodfeuds and wars do not start over inheritence issues, that it trumps everything else a woman is to begin with, and will be as a wife-partner?
 

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:yikes: ....just be glad there are products today and tampax !!! My mother had a friend who could draw cats from three provinces away !!!!! There was one in my class too!. Back in my day it was called " being on the rag " and believe me many were !!
ROFLMAO.........

That is going to be my new phrase.........

"Kids....go get a bath you are starting to draw cats"

"Hey Shirley....did you notice the woman in front of us? She is starting to draw cats"

"Hey Hubby wash your hunting clothes they are starting to draw cats"

Thanks grammy. You have opened a whole new meaning to the words "draw cats".
:D
 
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I grew up hearing this over and over and over and never questioned it until I got older. But when you think about it, it's really an incredibly demeaning statement. "The best thing you can give your spouse is your virginity." Basically it takes all that you are, and all that you can be, and tosses it aside in favor of a very tiny bit of skin (that can easily be 'torn' by a number of non-sexual activities prior to sex)between your legs. Why isn't the love and respect between the two of you enough? Why isn't the commitment the best thing? What is soooo special about virginity, especially in these days where bloodfeuds and wars do not start over inheritence issues, that it trumps everything else a woman is to begin with, and will be as a wife-partner?
I think you've gotten to the heart of the matter, Zoomer . . . and it goes back, once again, to power and control - what we were talking about before [sigh]
 

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