Are you talking about the ONE picture of the dog with the worn green collar and huge chain?
That's ONE APBT out of several pictured. And he's the ONLY dog with a huge chain and collar on.
And that is NOT what gives Pit Bulls a bad reputation. Honestly? I don't think that dog's going ANYWHERE to get himself into trouble. I think that dog looks quite safe in his own yard.
I don't chain Ella and I'll probably never chain any pit bull I ever own, BUT I'm surely NOT going to blame the poor reputation of the pit bull on chaining and big collars.
That's some crap that PETA would say.
I would think that the bad reputation of the pit bull, yes, comes from bad owners (what probably started it), but it MAINLY comes from poor public perception due to media lies (which REALLY blew it up into something it is NOT).
And, no, chaining your dog does NOT mean you are a bad owner or that your dog is ill tempered or under socialized.
Sheesh, I thought this was already established here.
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Please don't take this the wrong way, I can see this as one of those posts that could be taken out of context because it is written and not vocalized.
I don't think people who chain their dogs are bad owners, mine panic when we put them on their tie out, so we just don't do it. What worried me about that chain was how big and heavy it looked, just like... too much weight for the dog's neck, you know? And THAT was what I was trying to tell Aaron, not why tie outs in general are bad (because I don't think they are, they're just not for everyone) but why ridiculously big chains are not so great.
I hope that didn't come out in any way rude or snotty.
I don't think people who chain their dogs are bad owners, mine panic when we put them on their tie out, so we just don't do it. What worried me about that chain was how big and heavy it looked, just like... too much weight for the dog's neck, you know? And THAT was what I was trying to tell Aaron, not why tie outs in general are bad (because I don't think they are, they're just not for everyone) but why ridiculously big chains are not so great.
I hope that didn't come out in any way rude or snotty.
In the US, that would be roughs AND smooths. My dogs trace back to several Alstead dogs, which are behind many of the Sunnybank dogs. 
ETA: What ARE those non-pitbulls? Other than WTF UGLY, that is.
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They are the new "fad" pit bull that's supposed to look tough and intimidating. I think *I* could outrun one, without taking my inhaler they look threatening for sure lol. They are now commonly referred to as American Bullies (NOT American Bulldogs) and I feel sad inside just looking at one.
And I think the chain comment was made in regards to the SIZE of the Chain and some of the heavy chain collars. Some of the chains you see make you feel bad for the innocent animal who has to drag them around on his neck. Especially when some people do it because they supposedly add muscle to the neck and make the dog stronger and look tougher
they look threatening for sure lol. They are now commonly referred to as American Bullies (NOT American Bulldogs) and I feel sad inside just looking at one.And I think the chain comment was made in regards to the SIZE of the Chain and some of the heavy chain collars. Some of the chains you see make you feel bad for the innocent animal who has to drag them around on his neck. Especially when some people do it because they supposedly add muscle to the neck and make the dog stronger and look tougher
Chewbacca.... I don't think this was supposed to be an "anti-chain" comment per se.
The chain looks friggin' huge and gives me the impression that someone wants to "macho up" their dog. And.. I don't know... a lot of times the people that want their pits to look oh so tough on 30lbs chains... well... I think these heavy exaggerated chains look stupid and are idiotic and since they are unnecessary they are just there for looks and image. So actually, yes, I do think that these contribute to the bad image.
The chain looks friggin' huge and gives me the impression that someone wants to "macho up" their dog. And.. I don't know... a lot of times the people that want their pits to look oh so tough on 30lbs chains... well... I think these heavy exaggerated chains look stupid and are idiotic and since they are unnecessary they are just there for looks and image. So actually, yes, I do think that these contribute to the bad image.
I looooove looking at the dogs from yesteryear. For the most part, they were wayyyyyy more capable than the dogs of today. Just look at the Neo, no way are the dogs that are in the ring today better at guarding LARGE estates than the old style Neos. Thankfully there are some dedicated breeders out there trying to bring back the "old" dogs in various breeds, primarily working ones. You actually can find Neos out there today who dont have extra loose saggy skin. Not saying they dont have any wrinkling at all, just a moderate amount of skin. Same thing with the Sharpei. You can find them with just a bit of wrinkling around the head rather than a rolled towel.
Well... the thing is... people who are invested in TRUE, working Border Collies, could honestly NOT care less what is or is not acceptable in the ring. Border Collies have only recently been shown in the AKC, and many reputable kennel clubs haven't accepted them.
The point is, the working dogs have not changed in appearance to speak of, for hundreds of years, without kennel clubs or conformation getting involved. Conformation dogs, on the other hand, differ incredibly from original Border Collies. Working breeders believe that it is working style that sets the breed apart, not conformation, although their conformation HAS remained very consistent without showing.
Working Border Collies can have floppy ears, prick ears, rose ears, wonky ears, etc. As long as they do not impair the dog's ability to work. Prick ears are predominantly common, as far as I've seen.
This is a friend from another forum's BC, Happy. She is a working BC from Canada... and I always thought she looked strikingly similar to Old Hemp.
The point is, the working dogs have not changed in appearance to speak of, for hundreds of years, without kennel clubs or conformation getting involved. Conformation dogs, on the other hand, differ incredibly from original Border Collies. Working breeders believe that it is working style that sets the breed apart, not conformation, although their conformation HAS remained very consistent without showing.
Working Border Collies can have floppy ears, prick ears, rose ears, wonky ears, etc. As long as they do not impair the dog's ability to work. Prick ears are predominantly common, as far as I've seen.
This is a friend from another forum's BC, Happy. She is a working BC from Canada... and I always thought she looked strikingly similar to Old Hemp.
This is my friend's Neo. Now, his origins are unknown (he's purebred, just no one knows his actual bloodlines) as he's a rescue, he had a rough life of neglect in the beginning, and he still has a bit of filling out to do, but nonetheless. He's more straight-up mastiff than he is overexaggerated wrinkle-bag, and I think he's much more attractive, as such.
Look how HUGE he is compared to my bf's fatso pitter! LOL
Here's another picture of him, that is my absolute favorite. He LOVES wearing his old-school welding goggles. He's such a ham sandwich.
He was only . . . 2? in this picture, and not that long after he was rescued. You can see how thin he was. It's taken 2 years to finally get him to hold some weight.
Look how HUGE he is compared to my bf's fatso pitter! LOL
Here's another picture of him, that is my absolute favorite. He LOVES wearing his old-school welding goggles. He's such a ham sandwich.
He was only . . . 2? in this picture, and not that long after he was rescued. You can see how thin he was. It's taken 2 years to finally get him to hold some weight.
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Well... the thing is... people who are invested in TRUE, working Border Collies, could honestly NOT care less what is or is not acceptable in the ring. Border Collies have only recently been shown in the AKC, and many reputable kennel clubs haven't accepted them.
The point is, the working dogs have not changed in appearance to speak of, for hundreds of years, without kennel clubs or conformation getting involved. Conformation dogs, on the other hand, differ incredibly from original Border Collies. Working breeders believe that it is working style that sets the breed apart, not conformation, although their conformation HAS remained very consistent without showing.
Working Border Collies can have floppy ears, prick ears, rose ears, wonky ears, etc. As long as they do not impair the dog's ability to work. Prick ears are predominantly common, as far as I've seen.
This is a friend from another forum's BC, Happy. She is a working BC from Canada... and I always thought she looked strikingly similar to Old Hemp.
The point is, the working dogs have not changed in appearance to speak of, for hundreds of years, without kennel clubs or conformation getting involved. Conformation dogs, on the other hand, differ incredibly from original Border Collies. Working breeders believe that it is working style that sets the breed apart, not conformation, although their conformation HAS remained very consistent without showing.
Working Border Collies can have floppy ears, prick ears, rose ears, wonky ears, etc. As long as they do not impair the dog's ability to work. Prick ears are predominantly common, as far as I've seen.
This is a friend from another forum's BC, Happy. She is a working BC from Canada... and I always thought she looked strikingly similar to Old Hemp.
Well... the thing is... people who are invested in TRUE, working Border Collies, could honestly NOT care less what is or is not acceptable in the ring. Border Collies have only recently been shown in the AKC, and many reputable kennel clubs haven't accepted them.
The point is, the working dogs have not changed in appearance to speak of, for hundreds of years, without kennel clubs or conformation getting involved. Conformation dogs, on the other hand, differ incredibly from original Border Collies. Working breeders believe that it is working style that sets the breed apart, not conformation, although their conformation HAS remained very consistent without showing.
Working Border Collies can have floppy ears, prick ears, rose ears, wonky ears, etc. As long as they do not impair the dog's ability to work. Prick ears are predominantly common, as far as I've seen.
This is a friend from another forum's BC, Happy. She is a working BC from Canada... and I always thought she looked strikingly similar to Old Hemp.
The point is, the working dogs have not changed in appearance to speak of, for hundreds of years, without kennel clubs or conformation getting involved. Conformation dogs, on the other hand, differ incredibly from original Border Collies. Working breeders believe that it is working style that sets the breed apart, not conformation, although their conformation HAS remained very consistent without showing.
Working Border Collies can have floppy ears, prick ears, rose ears, wonky ears, etc. As long as they do not impair the dog's ability to work. Prick ears are predominantly common, as far as I've seen.
This is a friend from another forum's BC, Happy. She is a working BC from Canada... and I always thought she looked strikingly similar to Old Hemp.
ps - that dog is beautiful.