Moral dilemma...

ihartgonzo

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So, my boss is involved in Pit Bull rescue. You might remember me fostering a Pittie mix puppy a few months ago for her.

I don't know whether or not I should say anything to her. I mean, I'm sure I won't. But it bothers me to no end the way that she handles Pit rescue. First off, the puppy that I fostered who was CLEARLY part Pit Bull, whose mother was CLEARLY 100% Pit Bull, she adopted out as a Lab mix. I work at a Dog Daycare and he along with his siblings are in the system as Lab mixes, making it ok for them to be in group play, with dozens of other dogs in a small room.

See, the company does not allow Pit Bulls and mixes and other fighting breeds in group play. Including Bull Terriers and American Bulldogs. They can have "individual playtimes" with a small group of dogs, making them much easier to supervise, and allowing us to pick and choose the right personality matches to the dog. Not that I agree with the rule... but it's a rule, nonetheless.

I recently puppy-sat a 3 month old dog who was too young to board, and the owners called my boss desperately. She called me and said that this "Border Collie puppy" needed a puppy-sitter for 4 days and I was their only hope. I agreed and went to pick her up. Well, this was a black and white Pit Bull puppy. And a very mouthy and impulsive one at that! I talked to the owners about her, and the Mom said that the shelter told them she was a "Border Jack". The Dad was furious that they lied to them, and had no idea she was a Pit Bull until they brought her to a Vet. He was unsure about keeping her. I brought her to work to meet my boss, who swore up and down that this puppy was mostly Border Collie. Umm, I have puppysat/raised several BCs, and this was no BC puppy! It really troubled me, not only because A) this puppy needs a lot of training and socializing and bite inhibition work (not that it's a breed thing; I puppysat 5 Pitties none of which were like this lil terror) and B) this puppy is going to start growing up and looking more like a Pit Bull... is the Dad just going to end up dumping her once she's no longer a cute little puppy? She was a very intense, energetic puppy who needed dedicated owners. Not owners who would up and dump her the moment they found out that she might be part Pit Bull. My boss told them to get their Vet to change her breed to Border Collie mix, saying "they can't just slap a Pit Bull label on that puppy!" Which REALLY rubbed me the wrong way. :mad:

So, I want to get your opinions on this, especially those of you who are very involved in the breed and know the breed inside and out. Is it ok to lie and deny, given that this breed has such an unfair reputation? Is that really helping the breed in the long-run? My boss claimed that shelters "label everything as a Pit Bull mix", but in my experience, they don't do that if there's any other predominant breed in the dog... in fact, I see a lot of obvious Pitties who are labeled as Lab or Boxer mixes. And it isn't Labs or Boxers who you constantly see roaming and who fill up shelters, it's Pit Bulls. No? Yes? I don't know how to feel about this issue.
 

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No that is not right AT. ALL. It is a danger to the breed IMO. If you are going to rescue them you need to know them, and respect them for what they are.
 

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That's how I feel, too... you would think my boss would feel the same. She got one of her dog's canines surgically removed so that she couldn't kill her other Pit Bull if she got out. D: She OF ALL PEOPLE should respect the breed enough to know that not every home is the right home for them.
 

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I agree with you.

They aren't "my" breed but IMO if you (general you) think the dog's a pit bull call it a pit bull, if you think it's a border collie call it a border collie. If you really don't know then just list it as a mutt. Use your expertise to help people choose a dog that they're comfortable with. Deceiving new owners isn't right and creates more problems.

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She got one of her dog's canines surgically removed so that she couldn't kill her other Pit Bull if she got out.
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
 

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Agreed!! :(

Tough situation to be in -- I would say you should say something, but I know its probably easier said than done :eek:
 

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That's how I feel, too... you would think my boss would feel the same. She got one of her dog's canines surgically removed so that she couldn't kill her other Pit Bull if she got out. D: She OF ALL PEOPLE should respect the breed enough to know that not every home is the right home for them.
:eek: :yikes:



I agree with you.

They aren't "my" breed but IMO if you (general you) think the dog's a pit bull call it a pit bull, if you think it's a border collie call it a border collie. If you really don't know then just list it as a mutt. Use your expertise to help people choose a dog that they're comfortable with. Deceiving new owners isn't right and creates more problems.

ETA

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
:hail: and a abandoned animal later.
 
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No that is not right AT. ALL. It is a danger to the breed IMO. If you are going to rescue them you need to know them, and respect them for what they are.
Summed it right up.

Don't know what you're going to do, though, since it's your BOSS :wall:

Oh, wait . . . maybe, since your boss professes to love the breed, you could show her some of the successful Pitbull rescue sites and their information under the guise of "hey, you should get to know these guys and do some networking!" ;)
 

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I agree with the others that it is wrong. However, she is your boss and (possibly?) a friend, so I get it if you want to avoid conflict and stay on good terms.

It may not hurt though, if she asks you to foster again, to just be honest in a non-confrontational way. For example, she comes up to you asking you to foster a new pittie she gets in. You pull her aside to someplace private (wouldn't want customers or anyone to overhear you calling her out for something) and say something along the lines of:

"NAME, I would love to foster for you again, but I have to be honest with you. It makes me really uncomfortable when you tell people interested in adopting my foster that she is not part pit bull when she is. I get that your heart is in the right place, but I think it does more harm then good. Besides, if the people interested in adopting are so turned off by her being that breed, they probably wouldn't make good owners anyway. As great as pitties are, the new owners definitely need to be aware of some of the things that can come along with owning the breed, like dog aggression. I would love to foster for you again if we can agree to just be honest with potential adopters about what kind of dog they are adopting. I think it will not only be better for the owners in the long run, but also the dog."

If you make it sound like you are suggesting it and not telling her she is outright wrong, I would imagine if your boss is somewhat reasonable, she would at least think about what you said. At the end of the day, her heart *IS* in the right place, she is just going about it all wrong.

Anyway, that's just my 2 cents :)

Oh and I feel for you, what a totally awkward situation!
 

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