I thought we had progressed farther than this, at least.

[Dekka]

The 'might' is often to save one's butt. I know quite a few immune compromised dog who do just fine on raw. But the owners are more careful than they would otherwise be. Not all owners are able/willing to put in more effort, that could result in the 'may not be...' comment without meaning raw is bad.

 

[mutts]

This article is about how raw is a GOOD thing. Yet, this person who creates raw diets for clients, states that not every dog should eat raw. Obviously my cousin's dog shouldn't have...

 

[Dekka]

This article is about how raw is a GOOD thing. Yet, this person who creates raw diets for clients, states that not every dog should eat raw. Obviously my cousin's dog shouldn't have...

But dogs have died on kibble, does that mean no dog should eat kibble?

BTW welcome to scientific writing, it pretty much NEVER gives a carte blanche recommendation.

Often why dog's shouldn't eat raw (of those who shouldn't) are due to the owners, not the diets.

 

[Taqroy]

Or just simply that it might not be the way to go lol. She also says "not every dog is cut out for a raw diet"-- that's pretty self explanatory. This is a professional. Not some forum "expert".

What makes her a professional exactly? I don't see any credentials on that article.

 

[mutts]

Now your just reading into it what you WANT it to say or what you ASSUME it MIGHT mean. This lady is an advocate for raw feeding, has clients that she assists, has taken schooling on the subject and is a professional and you are STILL like "what she must really mean is..."
No. She means what she states clearly and obviously. Not all dogs should eat raw.

 

[mutts]

I don't see your credentials either

 

[Taqroy]

I don't see your credentials either

I'm also not professing to be a forum "expert" as you put it, nor am I the one claiming that the article I used was written by a "professional". Nice use of the passive aggressive emoticon.

 

[Dekka]

I think you are missing the point. Sure 1% or less of the dog pop shouldn't. Because it wouldn't survive in teh wild and have serious issue. That happens with people, there are diseases where people can't eat normal very healthy food.. that doesn't mean the vast majority of people shouldn't eat it.

So saying that because fish isn't good for all people so people should be wary is silly due to the very small amount of the population with phenylketonuria. Or beans.. same deal.

A normal healthy dog is typically going to do better on raw. Sure a dog with some rare disease might not, but that doesn't make it not the best diet for dogs.

 

[mutts]

http://www.dogchannel.com/dog-nutrition/raw-food-diets.aspx

 

[mutts]

Nice job seeing passive aggressiveness in an emoticon.
You can feed your dogs raw. I can feed my dogs Acana. We'll both be super duper happy.
I just don't want there to be such an ATTACK on kibble feeders. Like I am an animal abuser now that I feed kibble--- right.
If you don't want me spouting "anti" raw opinions because I don't have credentials then I think that you should not be spouting "pro" raw opinions without credentials. Fair? Great.
Let's get rid of these double standards people.

 

[Dekka]

That is just an opinion piece, no different than what we post here. I breed and raise dogs.. Should I write a piece like that? That person doesn't give references for herself and really her article says nothing much that isn't found in this thread...

ETA atm I AM feeding kibble. That doesn't mean its BAD, I just think raw is better, I just cant' right now.

 

[mutts]

S**t I gave wrong link http://www.monicasegal.com/about-us.html

 

[~Jessie~]

I think you are missing the point. Sure 1% or less of the dog pop shouldn't. Because it wouldn't survive in teh wild and have serious issue. That happens with people, there are diseases where people can't eat normal very healthy food.. that doesn't mean the vast majority of people shouldn't eat it.

So saying that because fish isn't good for all people so people should be wary is silly due to the very small amount of the population with phenylketonuria. Or beans.. same deal.

A normal healthy dog is typically going to do better on raw. Sure a dog with some rare disease might not, but that doesn't make it not the best diet for dogs.

That's exactly what I was going to post next.

The dogs that have issues with a raw diet wouldn't survive if they were wolves or coyotes or what have you. Luckily for them, they have human intervention. If your domesticated dog is allergic to chicken and all other sources of animal protein, there are alternatives. In the wild, not so much.

Again, it is not my opinion. It is a FACT.

It's a fact that dogs in general do the best on a raw diet. They were intended to eat RAW meat.

It's hilarious how most people consider it "normal" for cats to catch mice and eat them (they're being good cats, right?). But feeding a dog a controlled diet of raw meat is just oh-so-bad.

 

[mutts]

But yet.. when I give my opinion about raw it's asked of me that I prove credentials. Or at the very least credentials of my sources....

 

[mutts]

I don't let my cat catch mice either. Good way to get tapeworms.

 

[Taqroy]

My previous post got eaten so this might show up twice...and I don't recall exactly what I typed before. Lol.

Nice job seeing passive aggressiveness in an emoticon.
You can feed your dogs raw. I can feed my dogs Acana. We'll both be super duper happy.
I just don't want there to be such an ATTACK on kibble feeders. Like I am an animal abuser now that I feed kibble--- right.
If you don't want me spouting "anti" raw opinions because I don't have credentials then I think that you should not be spouting "pro" raw opinions without credentials. Fair? Great.
Let's get rid of these double standards people.

Basically it went like this: Yeah, I feed kibble.

ETA: For the record, I feed kibble (Taste of the Wild).

 

[Dekka]

I don't let my cat catch mice either. Good way to get tapeworms.

Actually this is false. (getting fleas is a much better way to get tape. Most tapes are species specific.. non specific ones are quite rare.. hence not a GOOD way to get tape)

 

[~Jessie~]

Nice job seeing passive aggressiveness in an emoticon.
You can feed your dogs raw. I can feed my dogs Acana. We'll both be super duper happy.
I just don't want there to be such an ATTACK on kibble feeders. Like I am an animal abuser now that I feed kibble--- right.
If you don't want me spouting "anti" raw opinions because I don't have credentials then I think that you should not be spouting "pro" raw opinions without credentials. Fair? Great.
Let's get rid of these double standards people.

Are you reading anything people are writing?

No one said anything was WRONG with kibble. There are no attacks on kibble feeders.

Credentials aren't needed for saying raw is better. It's common sense. Dogs = carnivores who don't have thumbs nor heat sources for cooking. Jaws and teeth are designed for ripping meat. Digestive system works by sending meat through quickly so that bacteria won't have time to grow. What is their best food source? Corn? How about wheat? Human created (cooked) kibble?

Hmmm... how about RAW MEAT?

It's not rocket science.

Again, there is nothing wrong with kibble, but raw meat is what dogs are DESIGNED to eat.

 

[mutts]

There's another good example!!! I have owned my cat for 2 years. He is about 6 years old. He has chronic constipation (to the point where he bleeds out of his rectum). I had tried EVERYTHING... I have had ALL of the veterinary testing done and still chronic constipation so my vet (yes that's right, my vet) said try raw. I did. It made his constipation wayyyy worse. He has to be sedated while they pulled the s**t out of his ass.
So I tried Medi-Cal Gastro... shitty quality but the only hope left.
He poops like a machine.
Say I had kept going with raw?? He would have developed megacolon and had to have surgery.... good stuff.

 

[mutts]

None of the foods that I circulate for my dog have corn or wheat.