Goodbye Binn
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Sorry, I must have missed that.
IRISH Isn't this surgery for this condition supposed to be done A.S.A.P? I think that the fund raiser is a great idea but I would take the fastest route into surgery so that Binn can get on with his life where ever he ends up. From what you've described, it's exactly what my friends Mastiff just went through and time was of the essense if the surgery was to be successful....which it was. She was told that if the muscles atrophy due to his lack of mobility, the chances of a successful result are deminished.
This has to be so difficult for you.
IRISH Isn't this surgery for this condition supposed to be done A.S.A.P? I think that the fund raiser is a great idea but I would take the fastest route into surgery so that Binn can get on with his life where ever he ends up. From what you've described, it's exactly what my friends Mastiff just went through and time was of the essense if the surgery was to be successful....which it was. She was told that if the muscles atrophy due to his lack of mobility, the chances of a successful result are deminished.
This has to be so difficult for you.
Reading all this make me really sad. I'm going to give my 3 Ms extra hugs and kisses tonite... I love them so much that I don't think anybody can ever love my dogs as much as I do, and God forbids, if they ever needed medical treatments, I would try my absolute best to give it to them. Like someone has said earlier, when there is a will, there is a way. It does seem to me that you have not explore all options before decide to give up on Binn. $3000 is a lot of money, but it's definitely not unaffordable if you try. There are better ways to approach this problem rather than giving up on Binn, and leave his surgery and after care to other people. After all, he is your dog! - but it seemed like you've make up your mind already, so no matter what we say, Binn is gone. It is just too sad.
I have very mixed feelings on this subject!
i believe what you are doing is right MIW because maybe you should have thought about it and made a bank account for binn as soon as you got him just in case, but even then, its highly unlikely your going to put $6,000 into it,
I believe that you are doing the right thing and the responsible thing, i think this is a lesson we can all learn from when it comes to responsible breeders.
Lizmo and poodlemommy - i think that those responses really showed no tact and were a bit uncaring for someone who is having to give up their dog, i may not have been on this forum for that long but i have read MIW posts for a long time and its not hard to see how much love she has for him, and shes doing the right thing for the right reasons
i believe what you are doing is right MIW because maybe you should have thought about it and made a bank account for binn as soon as you got him just in case, but even then, its highly unlikely your going to put $6,000 into it,
I believe that you are doing the right thing and the responsible thing, i think this is a lesson we can all learn from when it comes to responsible breeders.
Lizmo and poodlemommy - i think that those responses really showed no tact and were a bit uncaring for someone who is having to give up their dog, i may not have been on this forum for that long but i have read MIW posts for a long time and its not hard to see how much love she has for him, and shes doing the right thing for the right reasons
Well, I have no idea how long it has been since I first read bout his condititon but the she said she could afford it then.
I think we have all seen the very nice pictures of the house she has, nice new furniture, etc...$3000 is alot of money, but as we can see from the other thread she made, if there is a will there is a way.
I think we have all seen the very nice pictures of the house she has, nice new furniture, etc...$3000 is alot of money, but as we can see from the other thread she made, if there is a will there is a way.
I give you credit for what you are doing for Binn and placing him in a place where he can get proper care and medical attention he needs.That's why as soon as I got a new pup I got the VPI insurance . However, the whole Stella thing bothers me Why give her up if you don't really have to? You did rescue her not to long ago I remember seeing the pics earlier this year. I also remember when you bought your house and showed pics of it and you are moving already. I understand life happens but more people do need to take dog ownership seriously and think about caring for them for many years to come. Pets aren't disposible creatures. I'm glad you are reconsidering keeping your Saint girl I'm sure you won't regret it.
As for what Poodlesmommy stated this place definately has a double standard I have noticed it many times
. However, the whole Stella thing bothers me Why give her up if you don't really have to? You did rescue her not to long ago I remember seeing the pics earlier this year. I also remember when you bought your house and showed pics of it and you are moving already. I understand life happens but more people do need to take dog ownership seriously and think about caring for them for many years to come. Pets aren't disposible creatures. I'm glad you are reconsidering keeping your Saint girl I'm sure you won't regret it. As for what Poodlesmommy stated this place definately has a double standard I have noticed it many times
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I'm sorry, I know I don't post much, but I have been a member here for a while. I know that you have known about Binns condition since July, and it's really sad that he has been in pain for this long! I think that turning him over to the rescue group would probably be the best thing for him. I know you love him, but he despertly needs surgery! I think 5 months is too long for any dog to go through that much pain and suffering! Something should have been done sooner. As far as Stella, I am glad that you are thinking about keeping her. I really don't see any legit reason to give her up also! This is a very sad situation!
I just don't get it. It doesn't add up. You just posted a thread a week ago saying you were going to Vegas on vacation. It seems to me that a vacay like that would be quite costly. I've just yet to see a good reason why you couldn't pay for this surgery. To me it doesn't look like the lifestyle that you lead is one of struggle and hardship.
This is Grace's Husband,
I think it's great everyone has their opinions good and bad. I think it's sad that someone would try and take cheap shots at someone who's going through a very difficult time right now. For those of you that have been there for Grace on this board, thank you. I've seen Grace reach out to folks on this board and some of you have really hurt her feelings. It's not appropriate for everyone to know what she is dealing with in her personal life that would require these things to happen.
I think it's great everyone has their opinions good and bad. I think it's sad that someone would try and take cheap shots at someone who's going through a very difficult time right now. For those of you that have been there for Grace on this board, thank you. I've seen Grace reach out to folks on this board and some of you have really hurt her feelings. It's not appropriate for everyone to know what she is dealing with in her personal life that would require these things to happen.
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I'm sorry, but this just sounds really flippant. Like you don't really care one way or the other if Stella stays, you're more worried about her messing up the carpet and lossing your security deposit on the apartment. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, maybe you're just too stressed about other things and your words are coming across not how you intended, if that's the case, I'm glad I'm wrong.
I've lived with four dogs in a single apartment before. It can be done. They were happy, they were well exercised, they didn't trash the place and I even got my security deposit back when I moved. If she's not a destructive dog to begin with, then living in an apartment will not make her destructive.
Plenty of people with Great Danes live in apartments.
She can go with you if you want her too. If you don't....
As far as the situation with Bins goes, I would say you're doing the right thing IF you hadn't said you previously had the money for his surgey and now you don't. Why didn't you have the surgery done when you had the money?
I just don't understand how someone can have the cash to get something so important fixed, and then spend it elsewhere??
How about a loan to pay for the surgery? If you have even half-way decent credit most banks will give you a personal loan.
How about a credit card for Bin? Again, anyone with decent credit can get a CC, get a couple if you have to if the limit won't be as high on newer cards. Several $500 limit cards can cover the costs.
I also believe that many vets have an option called "Care Credit" (or something like that) which is a card just for large vet expenses. I know someone who had a puppy with parvo and she used the Care Credit to pay for the vet fees which were over a thousand dollars.
I have to agree with whoever said, where there's a will there's a way.
I've lived with four dogs in a single apartment before. It can be done. They were happy, they were well exercised, they didn't trash the place and I even got my security deposit back when I moved. If she's not a destructive dog to begin with, then living in an apartment will not make her destructive.
Plenty of people with Great Danes live in apartments.
She can go with you if you want her too. If you don't....
As far as the situation with Bins goes, I would say you're doing the right thing IF you hadn't said you previously had the money for his surgey and now you don't. Why didn't you have the surgery done when you had the money?
I just don't understand how someone can have the cash to get something so important fixed, and then spend it elsewhere??
How about a loan to pay for the surgery? If you have even half-way decent credit most banks will give you a personal loan.
How about a credit card for Bin? Again, anyone with decent credit can get a CC, get a couple if you have to if the limit won't be as high on newer cards. Several $500 limit cards can cover the costs.
I also believe that many vets have an option called "Care Credit" (or something like that) which is a card just for large vet expenses. I know someone who had a puppy with parvo and she used the Care Credit to pay for the vet fees which were over a thousand dollars.
I have to agree with whoever said, where there's a will there's a way.
No one's taken a cheap shot at her. There have been people reaching out to HELP her and help Binn as well. I think you're the one taking a cheap shot at the people that are in this online community who have nothing but good intentions.
And just for the record when people come online and post freely about their personal life it is only natural that people will talk about it and offer their opinions.
And just for the record when people come online and post freely about their personal life it is only natural that people will talk about it and offer their opinions.
What you are reading is more differences in opinion not a double standard. If Chazhound had double standards then I would just run around editing and deleting anything I didn't agree with.
This is a very open forum for dog owners and all are encouraged to voice anything dog related. It is not expected that everyone will agree. This forum is rarely censored exclusive of attack posts, spam, or offensive material.
Nobody knows this person or what they are going through. I imagine it took alot of guts to even post. If the dogs are going to a great place, then I am a happy camper. See, that is what matters to me. So instead making matters worst for someone you don't know why don't you help find solutions and give some solid advice for her next dog ownership experience.
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This is a very open forum for dog owners and all are encouraged to voice anything dog related. It is not expected that everyone will agree. This forum is rarely censored exclusive of attack posts, spam, or offensive material.
Nobody knows this person or what they are going through. I imagine it took alot of guts to even post. If the dogs are going to a great place, then I am a happy camper. See, that is what matters to me. So instead making matters worst for someone you don't know why don't you help find solutions and give some solid advice for her next dog ownership experience.
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MIW is one of the most out in the open forum members. She talks about *everything* on here. You gotta take the bad with the good.
I have not said anything nasty on this thread, though, only because I don't see how it could help. I don't think Binn should stay with this family. He will be better off in California. Sure, they love him, but he needs more than what they can offer him on lots of levels.
MIW is one of the most out in the open forum members. She talks about *everything* on here. You gotta take the bad with the good.
I have not said anything nasty on this thread, though, only because I don't see how it could help. I don't think Binn should stay with this family. He will be better off in California. Sure, they love him, but he needs more than what they can offer him on lots of levels.
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I just don't get why this has been going on for 5 months and still nothing has been done about it. Why would another dog (Stella) be brought into the home when you have a dog that seriously needs surgery? If I am remembering correctly, Stella was brought home way after you found out about Binn, and now both are about to be rehomed. I can understand if you can't afford Binns surgery, but why let him suffer so long before anything is done about it.
I think you are a very kind and loving person from what I've read from your other posts. This is just the only thing that I don't understand.
I think you are a very kind and loving person from what I've read from your other posts. This is just the only thing that I don't understand.
I don't really know your personal situation. I'm sure it will be difficult do give up Stella and Binn. I too, have mixed feelings about this whole thing.
I do not condemn you for finding good homes for them to go to... sounds like you have done your research to assure they will be properly cared for since you are unable to provide that for them for whatever reasons you have.
What I have a difficult time with is that it "appears" as though you don't have your priorities in order. We all know that pets are a life long commitment. They depend on us to care for them and keep them safe as well as nurture and love them.
I realize things happen in our lives that may keep us from following through with our committments... it's life. I suppose what puzzles me is how other things have taken a higher priority over Binns health and well being. I don't mean this in a harsh way.. I'm just puzzled.
Like I said.. I don't know what you are going through.. I have not walked a mile in your shoes. I'm sure you have given this much thought and you feel this is the right thing to do. Maybe it is the right thing to do for Binn and Stella. I wish them the best of luck.
I hope whatever struggles you are going through on a personal level resolve themselves. And I hope you wait until you are more stable in your life before considering getting another pet.
I really am not being harsh at all here. I feel bad for all those involved. I wish there was something else that could have been done to have a different outcome here. Maybe one of the suggestions others have posted will work out for you.
The bottom line is that if you feel you have done the right thing, then stick with it. Do what is going to be in the best interest for Binn and Stella. And take time to sort out your life so you can get back on track. Goodluck!
I do not condemn you for finding good homes for them to go to... sounds like you have done your research to assure they will be properly cared for since you are unable to provide that for them for whatever reasons you have.
What I have a difficult time with is that it "appears" as though you don't have your priorities in order. We all know that pets are a life long commitment. They depend on us to care for them and keep them safe as well as nurture and love them.
I realize things happen in our lives that may keep us from following through with our committments... it's life. I suppose what puzzles me is how other things have taken a higher priority over Binns health and well being. I don't mean this in a harsh way.. I'm just puzzled.
Like I said.. I don't know what you are going through.. I have not walked a mile in your shoes. I'm sure you have given this much thought and you feel this is the right thing to do. Maybe it is the right thing to do for Binn and Stella. I wish them the best of luck.
I hope whatever struggles you are going through on a personal level resolve themselves. And I hope you wait until you are more stable in your life before considering getting another pet.
I really am not being harsh at all here. I feel bad for all those involved. I wish there was something else that could have been done to have a different outcome here. Maybe one of the suggestions others have posted will work out for you.
The bottom line is that if you feel you have done the right thing, then stick with it. Do what is going to be in the best interest for Binn and Stella. And take time to sort out your life so you can get back on track. Goodluck!
don't worry, i am not offended. I actually was totally confused about this situation. I was under the impression that Binn was an old dog (dont know why, thats just what i assumed b/c of his condition) I just happened to click on her dogster page, and realize he is only 8months...now that kinda changes things. Mostly, i dont understand why on earth she hasnt mentioned anything about the breeder...i was under the impression that Binn was bought from a reputable breeder...shouldnt this be 'covered'??
So i was thinking like 12 years had passed, and then this came up, blah blah...Binn would get to have the surgery and live his life without the stressors of moving homes in his old age, and be happy.
Trust me, i think money shouldnt be a barrier to getting help for a dog. My bro and i EACH shelled out $1000 from our life savings/college money, and then my mom shelled out the additional $1600...$3600 in all just to get Oakley trained (why we had to go to this extreme measure is a whole other story...). This was after having him for about 5 months.
I am still sticking by my statement though: You cant know whats gonna happen 10, 20 yrs from now...it doesnt mean you cant do whatever possible to keep /take care of a dog...
i do think that there are some extenuating circumstances where rehoming is the better option...i am no longer so sure this is one of them now that i realize binn is just a pup!
So i was thinking like 12 years had passed, and then this came up, blah blah...Binn would get to have the surgery and live his life without the stressors of moving homes in his old age, and be happy.
Trust me, i think money shouldnt be a barrier to getting help for a dog. My bro and i EACH shelled out $1000 from our life savings/college money, and then my mom shelled out the additional $1600...$3600 in all just to get Oakley trained (why we had to go to this extreme measure is a whole other story...). This was after having him for about 5 months.
I am still sticking by my statement though: You cant know whats gonna happen 10, 20 yrs from now...it doesnt mean you cant do whatever possible to keep /take care of a dog...
i do think that there are some extenuating circumstances where rehoming is the better option...i am no longer so sure this is one of them now that i realize binn is just a pup!
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