Fight at the dog park

[Tankstar]

I would say both.

Why bring 4 small dogs together who sound like they have a pack mentality when all together.

why bring a pitbull to a dog park? It would be like bringing a beagle to a rabbit show. just doesnt make sense to me.

And yes I know not every pitty is a dog agressive dog. but theres always a chance. i know a few pits who illegally go to our dog park, and are very friendly well socialized dogs. but when scuffles happen instinct might take over them

 

[drmom777]

Does that mean no sighthound owners should ever bring their dogs to the dog park because they could see and kill a small dog?

Well, our dog park clearly states that no dog should be in the park unless the owner can control it at all times. If a sighthound is actually at risk of running down and damaging smaller dogs just because they are moving quickly, then it clearly does not meet this requirement.

That being said, my 20 lb beagle plays around sighthounds of all ilk all the time and has never has a problem. We got that chase and kill thing one time, and that was a GSP, not a sighthound. Mini was minding her own business when this dog ran her down and picked her up by the neck and started shaking her. In my opinion, that dog clearly did not belong in the park.

Our park is divided into a small dog area and an all dog area. Thus large dogs are barred from the small dog side, but small dogs are not barred from the all dogs side. I am glad it is like that because it allows me to bring both dogs at the same time, and because Mini is not the best choice for playing with toy dogs.

Ironically Uncle Fred is fine with small dogs, but Mini is too rough.

 

[PoodleMommy]

Does that mean no sighthound owners should ever bring their dogs to the dog park because they could see and kill a small dog?

If a person has a dog, regardless of breed, that they think will KILL another dog at the dog park then No, I dont think they should be there.

 

[Dekka]

What scares me is that there is always the first time...

 

[Xoup Suit Riot!]

I'm convinced it was that band of reject brown pound puppies. I'm glad the Xoup got bit in the jowells. Oh, and that little fluffy brown one? He started it with his superior man barks that just don't match his pint sized body....

 

[elegy]

But the pit owner kept defending her dogs. "If those dogs werent so small and bratty than he wouldn't have reacted the way he did!"

sure, and that's the bottom line. if your dog won't tolerate obnoxious behavior from other dogs, he has no business being in a dog park, period. because dogs will be obnoxious. big ones, little ones.

both owners are at fault. and i will never take any dog to a dog park ever.

 

[2pups622]

My answer is both but that's not an option...

I agree.

 

[4dogs3cats]

Does that mean no sighthound owners should ever bring their dogs to the dog park because they could see and kill a small dog?

Honestly, I thought the OP was going to say that the boston had been killed, the way they were describing the tugging and pulling of the small dog's bodies. I was VERY surprised that there was only one leg injury in all of the fray.

Though I do agree that you need to know your own dogs, and it's very disappointing that the pits owner didn't step up and protect them from their instincts when she could see that someone else's dogs were going to be a problem.

4dogs, I see 20 lbs as being borderline. To me it would be up to the owners discretion as far as what other dogs were in the big dog area, and how the smaller dog behaved. If your beagle ran around antagonizing dogs much larger than her then that would be a problem, but she doesn't.

Yeah bailey is small but she just doesnt enjoy the small dog park. She doesnt bother the big dogs, she thinks she is one, but doesnt bully them.

I'm convinced it was that band of reject brown pound puppies. I'm glad the Xoup got bit in the jowells. Oh, and that little fluffy brown one? He started it with his superior man barks that just don't match his pint sized body....

must have been lol.

Clearly, if the rest of you couldnt tell, XSR is my friend who brought her pound dogs lol

 

[4dogs3cats]

sure, and that's the bottom line. if your dog won't tolerate obnoxious behavior from other dogs, he has no business being in a dog park, period. because dogs will be obnoxious. big ones, little ones.

both owners are at fault. and i will never take any dog to a dog park ever.

I have control of my dogs at the park. I get annoyed by the people just talking on their cell phones or not even paying attention to their dogs. My dogs stay relatively by me, and I always have my eyes on them. If anything happened, I am confidant I could get to them and remove them from the situation. I have mixed feelings with the DP, but my beagles need to run around off leash, and my backyard isnt big enough for that and the desert isn't safe enough with scenthounds. So for now the DP works.

And you're smart not bringing yours to the DP. Clearly the Steve would get stolen!

 

[Romy]

If a person has a dog, regardless of breed, that they think will KILL another dog at the dog park then No, I dont think they should be there.

But people are saying that some types (like pitties) should never be put in a dog park environment because of an inherent danger that the dogs instincts could be awakened, regardless of it's past behavior.

So I am asking, does that include other types? Why not other breeds with fighting history? What about breeds that have the potential for same sex aggression? Prey aggression? Dobes? Rotts? GSDS? Malamutes? Sight hounds? Even if the individuals have never had a problem before? Where do you draw the line when you can say "this dog is not likely to have a problem but this dog is"?

As far as killing another dog at the dog park, that is why small dogs belong on the small dog side (if one is available). All it takes is one high speed body slam, one bite and it would be over.

But then this is why I don't like dog parks.

 

[PoodleMommy]

But people are saying that some types (like pitties) should never be put in a dog park environment because of an inherent danger that the dogs instincts could be awakened, regardless of it's past behavior.

So I am asking, does that include other types? Why not other breeds with fighting history? What about breeds that have the potential for same sex aggression? Prey aggression? Dobes? Rotts? GSDS? Malamutes? Sight hounds? Even if the individuals have never had a problem before? Where do you draw the line when you can say "this dog is not likely to have a problem but this dog is"?

As far as killing another dog at the dog park, that is why small dogs belong on the small dog side (if one is available). All it takes is one high speed body slam, one bite and it would be over.

But then this is why I don't like dog parks.

I have no control over what other people here say... I never said certain breeds dont belong in a dog park... I believe each person should know THEIR dog, I have a poodle that doesnt belong in a dog park, she doesnt go... If you think your dog cant handle the dog park, dont bring them... I dont care what breed your dog is.

Dogs should be able to handle a heightened level of interaction with dogs before they go in a dog park. Dogs will approach each other at a dog park, some will not be as socialized or friendly as I would like but it happens... I call my dogs away from these types of dogs and they listen... if the other dog insisted on pestering them and their owners wouldnt call them off (or couldnt) I would leave... becuase I have nothing to prove...I know my dogs behave and I dont need them in the middle of someone elses fight to prove it.

I stand by the fact that I dont believe an aggressive dog (and one who wants to KILL is certainly aggressive) belongs in a dog park... I dont care what breed it is.

 

[Georgygirl]

There is a boston girl at a DP we go to and she is so cute!! She is super playful, and pretty physical, with the other dogs. She doesn't start any trouble, but she's a tough little girl (she tends to "hang out" with the big dogs). Bailey thinks she's great.

If I got a small dog it would be a boston.

Oh yes, playing is a full contact sport for most bostons, lol! They're also pretty big fans of playing bitey face. Joey loves my parents beagle because she's into the wrestling type play too.

 

[4dogs3cats]

dog parks are a very controversial topic. I stopped going for a while, because issues always came up.

I worked on MY dogs. I know that if an issue happens, MY dogs wont be part of the problem. Sure they may run over to see whats going on. But my dogs would never instigate a fight. And if for some reason they were acting bad that day, I'd remove them.

I have a love hate relationship with dog parks. Every time I go I have a complaint, but its usually not enough to stop me from going.

 

[PoodleMommy]

I have a love hate relationship with dog parks. Every time I go I have a complaint, but its usually not enough to stop me from going.

LOL... The dog parks by me are TERRIBLE... I wont go to any which is said because Armani needs off leash time and my only other option is to take him to Central Park after 9 at night (time when dogs are allowed off leash) but who wants to be in Central Park after 9 at night ?

There is a dog park about 30 minutes from my parents house that is GREAT... so sometimes when I am visiting them I take Armani there and bring Bella along... I just wish Armani had more chances to go.

 

[Amstaffer]

Both are. If you big small fragile dogs to a Dog park....bad move. If you bring a DA dog of ANY breed you are an idiot.

Potentially? People should know if their dog is DA or not.

 

[Laurelin]

I would be wary of taking a sight hound to an unsegregated dog park. The ones around here have no small dog side at all. I also don't think you should take a toy dog to an unsegregated dog park either. It's just too risky and as Dekka said there's always that first time for something to happen.

 

[Amstaffer]

I think, for the most part (not all) but people in general are too stupid for Dog Parks nowadays. I used to go to dog parks regularly but they are just to many Dumb A's who bring aggressive dogs or poor socialized dogs.

The best bet is just get a group of people you know that have good dogs and set up a regular meet time. That is what I do. Sal still gets his "puppy" fix but I don't have to worry about him getting attacked.

 

[corgipower]

So I am asking, does that include other types? Why not other breeds with fighting history? What about breeds that have the potential for same sex aggression? Prey aggression? Dobes? Rotts? GSDS? Malamutes? Sight hounds? Even if the individuals have never had a problem before? Where do you draw the line when you can say "this dog is not likely to have a problem but this dog is"?

Prey aggression isn't DA. Sighthounds won't necessarily kill a small dog. I've seen prey aggressive dogs who were perfectly able to know a dog from a prey animal. I wouldn't trust them anywhere near a rabbit or even a cat, but they were fine with dogs.

There ARE breeds that are more likely to be DA than others, and I wouldn't be comfortable bringing them to a dog park, but there are individual dogs within those breeds that aren't at all DA and could do fine in a dog park and there are plenty of dogs of other breeds that are DA.

 

[corgipower]

I think, for the most part (not all) but people in general are too stupid for Dog Parks nowadays. I used to go to dog parks regularly but they are just to many Dumb A's who bring aggressive dogs or poor socialized dogs.

^Very true!!^

 

[Bailey08]

The best bet is just get a group of people you know that have good dogs and set up a regular meet time. That is what I do. Sal still gets his "puppy" fix but I don't have to worry about him getting attacked.

That's so cute!

What a lot of us struggle with is that we don't live anywhere that there is space for dogs to run around other than dog parks (I live in the middle of a big city and don't even know anyone with a decent backyard). I stopped taking my dog for a while but we have gone a few times recently. Bailey adores other dogs and really likes time offleash to run around.