Driver License Restrictions?

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I took drivers ed when I was 15 and had my license by 16. I was never involved in a wreck where I was the one driving. That being said, I don't think that kids under 17 should have "race" cars or big trucks. I also don't think that people over 70 should have a license. If they do, they should get an eye and hearing test done each year. To many elderly people and young teenagers are getting into preventable accidents. IMO
70 is not considered that elderly anymore and to say that anyone over 70 shouldn't have a license is pretty scary. Both my parents (mom and step dad) and Mikes mom are all in their early seventies and are really great drivers. Not overly careful (slow to react), they know the road rules and go with the flow of traffic. My mom also rollerblades and plays tennis....at 71. I do agree that young drivers should require extensive driver training in order to be licensed and that elderly drivers should have to take a bi-yearly test. The problem is deciding at what age that testing should begin.
 

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I am not saying traffic should be like in Europe. It would never work here and I know that. But what would be so bad about increasing the difficulty of driving schools?

I did my bike license here and honestly, it was a joke. I don't think I would be prepaired to drive in high traffic situations. Yes, they taught me how to drive on a straight piece of road...wohoo...and how to brake...but how to really handle the bike?
I did my bike license back in Germany, too...and it took me months to get through the training. Training kids for a day and then letting them drive is a joke. Especially with bikes.

And with restrictions I did not mean that teens shouldn't be allowed to drive to work, school, or whatever...but joyriding at night with 5 other teens cramped in their car. For example.

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Maybe your parents lack the skills and responsibility to teach you but mine didnt. I trust my circle of friends who are parents, much more than I trust a teacher that I dont know. It shouldnt require the government to pull peoples heads out of their ass.

My parents do not lack skills nor responsibilty, thank you. :rolleyes:
Driving teachers should be rated. Find out who is the best and bring your kid there. I think a 16 year old is much more likely to listen to a stranger who is an authority figure than the mommy.
 
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If your parents are skilled and responsible than why would you need training outside of your family?

Did you listen to your parents at 16? I didnt, but I sure as hell wouldnt listen to strangers either. Perhaps children should be taken from their mothers at birth and raised properly:rolleyes:
 
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Did you listen to your parents at 16? I didnt, but I sure as hell wouldnt listen to strangers either. Perhaps children should be taken from their mothers at birth and raised properly:rolleyes:
Heheheh . . . I know I've often thought that I'd've been better off if I'd been raised by wolves ;)
 

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Nope. But I did often tell my little sister that I was adopted and wasn't related to her or the parents :D
not to get off track, but I used to tell everyone that i was the mailman's baby
My mom would get sooo embarassed :p...

My mom and dad both and brown hair, brown eyes, and are right handed...I "was" blonded headed and I have blue eyes and I'm left handed..
 
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Great minds, Jess . . . :D
Of course...

Now back on topic.....I think people should be able to do whatever the heck they wanna do....:p:eek:

I really have no opinion on this whatsoever..............
 

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I think some of you hit it right on the head...........
It doesn't matter if you are taught right or taught with a questionable "teacher". You will drive like you want until you gain the experience and maturity to realize a car is/can be a deadly game.

My opinion.........(yes after my childhood and getting set free with a license at 16, with a simple written test and an even simpler driving test)...... is a child should get a permit at 16 and have to have parent/guardian in the passenger seat and get experience with parental supervision until the child turns 18, then with many ? hours of experience and passing a driving test they can obtain a regular license, at 18.

Not only would they get two years of driving experience, they would also be responsible for their own, and not rely on parents assets to cover their butts.
 

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If your parents are skilled and responsible than why would you need training outside of your family?

Did you listen to your parents at 16? I didnt, but I sure as hell wouldnt listen to strangers either. Perhaps children should be taken from their mothers at birth and raised properly:rolleyes:
My God! What the heck do you know about my parents? So stop questioning their abilities!
Well, if a 16 year old drives to school or has to take the school bus depends on a stranger, I am pretty sure they would listen!
All I am saying is that there is that the average American abilty to drive could be a lot better! Better driving = saving lives? Makes a lot of sense to me! But no, we might be restricted in some way! Let's teach the redneck father teach his son to drive, wohoo! :rolleyes:
 

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Let's teach the redneck father teach his son to drive, wohoo!
I assume the term redneck is used loosely. I consider myself somewhere between redneck and hillbilly. :D
Now I won't take full credit but, I have helped teach my daughter to drive.
So yes I believe a redneck father/mother can teach their son/daughter to drive, but it takes time for experience and maturity for them to be able to successfully do it on their own. (see previous thread of mine)

Edit: Alot of those rednecks are better drivers than you think, My son has been on a tractor for two years now, he does just fine. He will be 7 in sept. and has more experience behind "a" wheel than most 15 year olds that are on our roads.
 

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Ahrg! Okay... I didn't expect to be caught on the term "redneck".
Forget redneck...take the dad who doesn't really care, doesn't have enough time or for whatever reason rushes through. The dad that does not have authority over his child and lets the child run him over... if everyone was responsible as it appears everyone here....I wouldn't have a problem...BUT I see the reality on the street every day. Not having an accident does not say anything about the ability to drive, btw.
 
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My God! What the heck do you know about my parents? So stop questioning their abilities!
Im not. I bet they would do a fine job of teaching a youngster how to drive. It seemed that you didnt think parents were up to the task.

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Well, if a 16 year old drives to school or has to take the school bus depends on a stranger, I am pretty sure they would listen!
huh? Im going to guess at the point there. Teenagers are like regular people except with zits and they run faster. They will pay attention and respect anyone who earns it..for the most part. Even if that person is a parent. In my case I was much more respecting of my father than Tony the bus driver who was also the police chief in our town.

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All I am saying is that there is that the average American abilty to drive could be a lot better! Better driving = saving lives? Makes a lot of sense to me! But no, we might be restricted in some way! Let's teach the redneck father teach his son to drive, wohoo! :rolleyes:
Are we under populated? Should humans be kenneled? It would be safer. Is it all the other people out there that you fear? I have yet to read anything from you that promotes the people having any freedom to live as they please. Anything the man can throw at us you will be up front saying "Thank you sir! May I have another?"

Considering where you were raised I would think you would be more fearful of establishments that have control over the people.

What do you mean by "teach the redneck father teach his son?" I dont understand that.

And finally...

What is a redneck?
 

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personally I think I was a very good driver when I started driving and for the first few years. A lot of people told me I was including an ex cop who spent an afternoon in my passenger seat. I didn't make any mistakes when I took the tests and passed it the first time. I took driver's training and thought it was a lot of fun. And I didn't start driving until I was 17 even though at the time I could have gotten my learners at 14. I'm weird and always know when I'm ready. My parents are teachers and they knew better than to assume they could teach me properly so I took the training.

Now I think I'm much worse. Lazy maybe or I think I can get away with more. Over confident. I don't know. Point is I don't think experience will make you a better driver. You see bad driver's of all ages. Especially senior's who don't know they aren't as great a driver as they used to be.

Someone said that Canada has a graduated driving system but that's not quite true. It hasn't been adopted in all the provinces. Alberta just got it, BC has had it for awhile and Sask doesn't have it. I'm not sure about others. And the rules aren't all the same in each province although they tend to be similar.
 

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not to get off track, but I used to tell everyone that i was the mailman's baby
My mom would get sooo embarassed :p...

My mom and dad both and brown hair, brown eyes, and are right handed...I "was" blonded headed and I have blue eyes and I'm left handed..
I called my dad my sugar daddy about twice. The first time he laughed and the second time he told me never to call him that again and told me what it was lol. It was after I read a book about a diabetic called Sugar Baby lol. I thought if she was a sugar baby the dad would be the sugar daddy :p
 

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I called my dad my sugar daddy about twice. The first time he laughed and the second time he told me never to call him that again and told me what it was lol. It was after I read a book about a diabetic called Sugar Baby lol. I thought if she was a sugar baby the dad would be the sugar daddy :p
LOL @ Sugar Daddy :p I am going to go find me a Sugar Daddy one of these days ;)
 
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So Saje you were trained by a pro and are still a bad driver? When I said experience improves driving ability, I guess that would mean if the person opted to use it. I know after driving rigs I am a much better driver. Experience with many different size vehicles, bad weather conditions, heavy traffic, driving at night etc. make people better drivers...if they want to be.
 

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Lets all agree to disagree...

Some think parents are qualified teachers (I do)
Some dont

Some think there should be more extensive training for young drivers
Some dont

Some think the elderly should get tested before driving
Some think the elderly should get tested before driving :)

Yay! We all agree on something ( i think )
 

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So Saje you were trained by a pro and are still a bad driver? When I said experience improves driving ability, I guess that would mean if the person opted to use it. I know after driving rigs I am a much better driver. Experience with many different size vehicles, bad weather conditions, heavy traffic, driving at night etc. make people better drivers...if they want to be.
I didn't say bad I'm just not as careful and I drive way too fast sometimes. I've driven a lot. More than once as a delivery driver including a two-ton truck which I drove all around the province for 10+ hours a day making pick ups. I can back up with my mirrors only and for the most part know what's going on around me and I much prefer a stick. But I still don't think I'm the greatest driver. Of course, I probably have much higher standards than a lot of people.
 

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