Dog breeds not for the faint of heart or inexperianced
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Trolly it is..
They took down the site for three or so hours to delete any post that tried to be beneficial or correct misinformation such as pitties being terrible dogs that cause most dog bites.. They'd apparently prefer their members be all happy giving each other uninformed advice. Anyone coming from here, is going to give decent advice. Maybe the link should disappear for fear we actually teach them something.
They took down the site for three or so hours to delete any post that tried to be beneficial or correct misinformation such as pitties being terrible dogs that cause most dog bites.. They'd apparently prefer their members be all happy giving each other uninformed advice. Anyone coming from here, is going to give decent advice. Maybe the link should disappear for fear we actually teach them something.
No you don't. You assert on your site that pitbulls are a molosser breed that is "quite large". While rotties are a "medium to large sized breed". I'd have to ask if you have even met any rotties or pits with statements like this. And no, pits are NOT a molosser breed. Nor do you understand the difference between dog aggression and human aggression. It like saying a greyhound is liable to attack a person because he will kill rabbits.
Its one thing to be misinformed, but to be misinformed and present oneself as an expert is deceitful and dangerous.
Yes, please do. Or at least get some credible, verifiable sources before posting information.
Its one thing to be misinformed, but to be misinformed and present oneself as an expert is deceitful and dangerous.
Yes, please do. Or at least get some credible, verifiable sources before posting information.
Chow Chows. I'm a strong advocate for the breed, because I know they are unfairly labeled as a vicious breed, but at the same time, a Chow Chow in the wrong hands is a scary thing indeed.
If you are serious about owning a Chow, you have to be serious about the breed. A Chow is not a poodle is not a Retriever is not a Yorkshire Terrier. Each breed is unique and has to be looked at individually. For Chows I would recommend any new owner to have a trainer come and show them the ropes to begin with, remain in contact with the breeder should things go arise, and while I know it is highly debated, I suggest you socialize your Chow puppy even before all its vaccines are completed. More Chows are put to sleep because of lack of socialization, than die from contracting a vaccine prevented disease.
I don't, of course, mean take your puppy to a dog park or let him walk on the ground in a questionable area, etc. But you should have trustworthy friends and clean dogs visit your home, and expose him to as many things as possible. Personally, I even borrowed a wheelchair from a friend of mine to expose my puppy to it. I walked with a cane every now and again. Had I had any friends with kids I would have borrowed a stroller too. My puppy met elderly relatives.
Cameron isn't perfect around everyone, but I feel better knowing that if we walk down the street and someone in a wheelchair approaches she isn't going to growl or drag me into the road to escape.
So yeah, I don't think a Chow is for the new or average owner who isn't willing to dedicate serious time to training and socialization. On the same note, I don't really believe in starter pets either. They should give prospective owners a whining, nipping, pooping, robot puppy and see if they're still interested.
But a Chow in good and knowledgeable hands is a fantastic dog.
-Alicia
If you are serious about owning a Chow, you have to be serious about the breed. A Chow is not a poodle is not a Retriever is not a Yorkshire Terrier. Each breed is unique and has to be looked at individually. For Chows I would recommend any new owner to have a trainer come and show them the ropes to begin with, remain in contact with the breeder should things go arise, and while I know it is highly debated, I suggest you socialize your Chow puppy even before all its vaccines are completed. More Chows are put to sleep because of lack of socialization, than die from contracting a vaccine prevented disease.
I don't, of course, mean take your puppy to a dog park or let him walk on the ground in a questionable area, etc. But you should have trustworthy friends and clean dogs visit your home, and expose him to as many things as possible. Personally, I even borrowed a wheelchair from a friend of mine to expose my puppy to it. I walked with a cane every now and again. Had I had any friends with kids I would have borrowed a stroller too. My puppy met elderly relatives.
Cameron isn't perfect around everyone, but I feel better knowing that if we walk down the street and someone in a wheelchair approaches she isn't going to growl or drag me into the road to escape.
So yeah, I don't think a Chow is for the new or average owner who isn't willing to dedicate serious time to training and socialization. On the same note, I don't really believe in starter pets either. They should give prospective owners a whining, nipping, pooping, robot puppy and see if they're still interested.
But a Chow in good and knowledgeable hands is a fantastic dog.
-Alicia
At this point, I have mobility issues, and when the time comes, after all, King and Molly are pushing 13, it's going to be pretty soon, I will probably look for young adult dogs that aren't really big, and are more "laid back" than King is, for sure. A friend had a Lab/? mix pup that King got along with great, but Molly hates, so I passed on him mostly due to not wanting to stress her out any more than just living does, but I was really tempted to take him. Looks like he found a good home anyway.
The best line in that "article" was "These three specific Dog breeds combined to account for 73% of attacks that harmed children, 83% of attacks that injured humans."
Saying that is like trying to find a correlation between which races/ethnicity are most prone to commit rape. Not only is it a BS argument that helps NO ONE, but it can't be done in any scientific manner because the pool being tested is already contaminated (ie: any dog that has short hair and is muscular MUST be a Pitbull, and we all know Pitbulls are vicious, the media tells us so), but the statistic only takes into account the REPORTED ones. Just like the majority of rape victims don't report their attack, the majority of people that are bitten don't report it.
And in my experience, most children are harmed by the family dog (not a lone, feral Pitbull creeping into your child's bedroom at night), and in most cases the parents could have prevented it.
Saying that is like trying to find a correlation between which races/ethnicity are most prone to commit rape. Not only is it a BS argument that helps NO ONE, but it can't be done in any scientific manner because the pool being tested is already contaminated (ie: any dog that has short hair and is muscular MUST be a Pitbull, and we all know Pitbulls are vicious, the media tells us so), but the statistic only takes into account the REPORTED ones. Just like the majority of rape victims don't report their attack, the majority of people that are bitten don't report it.
And in my experience, most children are harmed by the family dog (not a lone, feral Pitbull creeping into your child's bedroom at night), and in most cases the parents could have prevented it.
We accidentally ran the newb off the forum who posted that article.
A few of us tried to join that site to help the misinformation, we got all our posts deleted and accounts disabled repeatedly before we gave up. Searching that newb, I'm pretty sure they are the site owner spreading the lies, making up false articles AND half the posters on the site. Posters with other names had his dog's name and other info that makes you go hmm..
We kept being told it was an internet glitch and not on purpose our posts were disappearing. Sure.... That poster is well aware of what we think of his lack of research skills and use of pretend make believe 'facts'.
A few of us tried to join that site to help the misinformation, we got all our posts deleted and accounts disabled repeatedly before we gave up. Searching that newb, I'm pretty sure they are the site owner spreading the lies, making up false articles AND half the posters on the site. Posters with other names had his dog's name and other info that makes you go hmm..
We kept being told it was an internet glitch and not on purpose our posts were disappearing. Sure.... That poster is well aware of what we think of his lack of research skills and use of pretend make believe 'facts'.
Its hard to say one breed in particular. Because with in that breed you may have the perfect fit or a disaster waiting to happen. I think thats where going to either a good breeder or a rescue that will steer you in the right direction and help make a good match between you and the dog.
For example.
Ivan would be a horrible fit for an inexperienced owner. Hell he is borderline almost a bad fit for us. He is very much the type that in the wrong hands would end up being a wild dog with little training. He is high energy, the wheels are going constantly, VERY high drive. If not monitored carefully he could and probably would get himself into some big trouble. Ivan is basically a hard headed jerk with no quit in him.
Chloe my girl before Ivan. Other than her health problems would have been a much easier fit for most. She was laid back, little drive. She did have some socialization issues, but more on the end she couldn't care less if you existed.
For example.
Ivan would be a horrible fit for an inexperienced owner. Hell he is borderline almost a bad fit for us. He is very much the type that in the wrong hands would end up being a wild dog with little training. He is high energy, the wheels are going constantly, VERY high drive. If not monitored carefully he could and probably would get himself into some big trouble. Ivan is basically a hard headed jerk with no quit in him.
Chloe my girl before Ivan. Other than her health problems would have been a much easier fit for most. She was laid back, little drive. She did have some socialization issues, but more on the end she couldn't care less if you existed.