Breed variation
- Thread starter Laurelin
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Unfortunately, that particular pic isn't good for comparison because they aren't in the same moment of the same gait. So it makes Shango look more compact, but Violet more strung out.
I actually think Violet fairly moderate in most of the pictures I've seen of her, aside from long and lean. But, Zander looked that way when he was young, too. It is an age thing. Younger dogs are going to be naturally leaner and longer-looking even if they really aren't because they haven't filled out yet. Zander didn't finish filling out properly until he was around 4 or 5.
Here are other pictures of Shango:
I actually think Violet fairly moderate in most of the pictures I've seen of her, aside from long and lean. But, Zander looked that way when he was young, too. It is an age thing. Younger dogs are going to be naturally leaner and longer-looking even if they really aren't because they haven't filled out yet. Zander didn't finish filling out properly until he was around 4 or 5.
Here are other pictures of Shango:
This is an insanely interesting thread! I love seeing the subtle variations and more dramatic variations in breeds. I think your Papillons all look like well-bred Paps, Laurelin! They're all unique & special in their own way, though, which is awesome. I wouldn't want a bunch of identical dogs. I meet a lot of Paps who look exactly like long-haired Chihuahuas, all of yours are clearly Papillon. ^_^
I think Border Collies are an incredibly diverse breed, but they're all recognizable as Border Collies. With a breed who has been bred for centuries based only on their working style and not on conformation, it's AMAZING how similar working BCs today look to original BCs. Especially compared to many show breeds who have completely changed in the past 50 years, even though they're bred to conform to a physical standard!
Old Hemp (1893) The progenitor of the Border Collie
Working Border Collies
Show Border Collies
I think Border Collies are an incredibly diverse breed, but they're all recognizable as Border Collies. With a breed who has been bred for centuries based only on their working style and not on conformation, it's AMAZING how similar working BCs today look to original BCs. Especially compared to many show breeds who have completely changed in the past 50 years, even though they're bred to conform to a physical standard!
Old Hemp (1893) The progenitor of the Border Collie
Working Border Collies
Show Border Collies
One interesting thing to me about shelties is that in the american dogs (the european shelties look very different to me) I can typically classify every dog as either a 'Nikki/Rosie' type or a 'Trey' type. I'm not really sure why I see these two as so different but pretty much every sheltie I see looks vastly more like one or the other. I don't know if one is a pet bred and the other is show bred type. I wish I had pictures of my shelties when they were young adults readily available.
Yes, this is true too. There can be a lot of variation in litters themselves, and there can be multiple fathers as well 
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These dogs were littermates...together they look similar, but you would describe them as different breeds. Short haired maybe pointer/pittie, the longer haired probably aussie mix.
And these were littermates also..with an orange short haired chow mix mom. Maybe chow/shepherd.
.These dogs were littermates...together they look similar, but you would describe them as different breeds. Short haired maybe pointer/pittie, the longer haired probably aussie mix.
And these were littermates also..with an orange short haired chow mix mom. Maybe chow/shepherd.
Miniature schnauzer I often see some that are more barrel-chested (like Kiba) and then the thinner chested dogs (like Stryder - and most show dogs). And then if you compare the two, they both share the same dad, and then Stryder's mom, is Kiba's mom's daughter. Stryder is on the low side of being within Standard Schnauzer bitch standards.