Who says you can't protest a puppy store.
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Ditto also. :hail::hail::hail:
As disturbing as your vivid descriptions are, they are very important and you should really get your writings worked up so they can be posted everywhere where the public can really get a view of what is behind pet stores and where NOT to get a puppy. If you got an editor, you could get this published in magazines or a newspaper special series...something. These mills, byb and pet stores NEED to be shut down. And the only way to do that is through mass education.
Nevermind arguing with one, single little troll. The energy needs to go into more wide spread education where more people can be reached more efficiently. This one, little guy here is obviously unreachable or more likely, just here to stir things up. But hopefully, other guests will read. The trouble is, that most people who visit dog forums probably already have an inkling about this. It's the people who never read anything who remain ignorant. And worse....the ones that do read and have an opportunity to learn who still remain ignorant. That's something worse than ignorant....don't know what word that would be though.
As disturbing as your vivid descriptions are, they are very important and you should really get your writings worked up so they can be posted everywhere where the public can really get a view of what is behind pet stores and where NOT to get a puppy. If you got an editor, you could get this published in magazines or a newspaper special series...something. These mills, byb and pet stores NEED to be shut down. And the only way to do that is through mass education.
Nevermind arguing with one, single little troll. The energy needs to go into more wide spread education where more people can be reached more efficiently. This one, little guy here is obviously unreachable or more likely, just here to stir things up. But hopefully, other guests will read. The trouble is, that most people who visit dog forums probably already have an inkling about this. It's the people who never read anything who remain ignorant. And worse....the ones that do read and have an opportunity to learn who still remain ignorant. That's something worse than ignorant....don't know what word that would be though.
Guys, if you're gonna keep posting to this thread, can we do so more productively?
http://www.chazhound.com/forums/t91790/
Seriously, this guy exists just to find the right buttons to push to anger you guys. He's watching what makes you angry, and doing more of that. He's not worth getting so upset over, or pouring our your heart stories, guys. He's just doing it to anger everyone.
That's what trolls do. Read the thread I linked there, and tell me this guy isn't a troll.
Do not feed the troll. Do not feed the troll. He's not worth the heartbreak.
http://www.chazhound.com/forums/t91790/
Seriously, this guy exists just to find the right buttons to push to anger you guys. He's watching what makes you angry, and doing more of that. He's not worth getting so upset over, or pouring our your heart stories, guys. He's just doing it to anger everyone.
That's what trolls do. Read the thread I linked there, and tell me this guy isn't a troll.
Do not feed the troll. Do not feed the troll. He's not worth the heartbreak.
Nevermind arguing with one, single little troll. The energy needs to go into more wide spread education where more people can be reached more efficiently. This one, little guy here is obviously unreachable or more likely, just here to stir things up. But hopefully, other guests will read. The trouble is, that most people who visit dog forums probably already have an inkling about this. It's the people who never read anything who remain ignorant. And worse....the ones that do read and have an opportunity to learn who still remain ignorant. That's something worse than ignorant....don't know what word that would be though.
But I agree with the above, and Foxy's post is about the only good thing coming of this thread.
^ this!
And ^^ this.
Guys, if you're gonna keep posting to this thread, can we do so more productively?
http://www.chazhound.com/forums/t91790/
Seriously, this guy exists just to find the right buttons to push to anger you guys. He's watching what makes you angry, and doing more of that. He's not worth getting so upset over, or pouring our your heart stories, guys. He's just doing it to anger everyone.
That's what trolls do. Read the thread I linked there, and tell me this guy isn't a troll.
Do not feed the troll. Do not feed the troll. He's not worth the heartbreak.
http://www.chazhound.com/forums/t91790/
Seriously, this guy exists just to find the right buttons to push to anger you guys. He's watching what makes you angry, and doing more of that. He's not worth getting so upset over, or pouring our your heart stories, guys. He's just doing it to anger everyone.
That's what trolls do. Read the thread I linked there, and tell me this guy isn't a troll.
Do not feed the troll. Do not feed the troll. He's not worth the heartbreak.
Crush, I come from a third world country. I came to the U.S. to ESCAPE the poverty. Yes the U.S. has its own poverty, but NOTHING compared to third world countries. So stop saying that United States puppymills are third world country breeders. The U.S. is NOT a third world country.
In your own worlds, 'vira latas' as we call them in the third world country I come from, are the happiest dogs in the world, because they are outside and in a pack.
Yup, so much better than being in a lovely home, and sometimes crated....the streets are their home instead. Where they can be caught and then sold as 'goat meat'. Look at the happiness in their eyes.
In your own worlds, 'vira latas' as we call them in the third world country I come from, are the happiest dogs in the world, because they are outside and in a pack.
Yup, so much better than being in a lovely home, and sometimes crated....the streets are their home instead. Where they can be caught and then sold as 'goat meat'. Look at the happiness in their eyes.
I agree Ali....except like someone said, if anyone else is uninformed about where pet store puppies come from, they can learn here....if they can stand to slog through all the nonsense in between. Trolls really do disrupt forums and joking is fine and dandy, but if we have a serious message to get out, like this one about puppy mills, then our goal is compromised with all the crap. So, I agree....don't feed the troll.
Ditto also. :hail::hail::hail:
As disturbing as your vivid descriptions are, they are very important and you should really get your writings worked up so they can be posted everywhere where the public can really get a view of what is behind pet stores and where NOT to get a puppy. If you got an editor, you could get this published in magazines or a newspaper special series...something. These mills, byb and pet stores NEED to be shut down. And the only way to do that is through mass education.
Nevermind arguing with one, single little troll. The energy needs to go into more wide spread education where more people can be reached more efficiently. This one, little guy here is obviously unreachable or more likely, just here to stir things up. But hopefully, other guests will read. The trouble is, that most people who visit dog forums probably already have an inkling about this. It's the people who never read anything who remain ignorant. And worse....the ones that do read and have an opportunity to learn who still remain ignorant. That's something worse than ignorant....don't know what word that would be though.
As disturbing as your vivid descriptions are, they are very important and you should really get your writings worked up so they can be posted everywhere where the public can really get a view of what is behind pet stores and where NOT to get a puppy. If you got an editor, you could get this published in magazines or a newspaper special series...something. These mills, byb and pet stores NEED to be shut down. And the only way to do that is through mass education.
Nevermind arguing with one, single little troll. The energy needs to go into more wide spread education where more people can be reached more efficiently. This one, little guy here is obviously unreachable or more likely, just here to stir things up. But hopefully, other guests will read. The trouble is, that most people who visit dog forums probably already have an inkling about this. It's the people who never read anything who remain ignorant. And worse....the ones that do read and have an opportunity to learn who still remain ignorant. That's something worse than ignorant....don't know what word that would be though.
I mean what do we gain from him believing puppy mills are bad?
nothing.
What do the dogs gain? Another supporter, someone who actually cares about their lives.
Makes all the difference in the world to me.
Crush- can I ask you something? The description you keep giving of a puppy mill... where are you getting that description from? have you BEEN to a pupyp mill? or are you going off where you got your puppy from? because you cleared stated that you got your puppy from a byb. Thats where 2 of my dogs are from too. Right out of the paper. See before I joined any forums, I was the DEFINITION of a mainstream dog owner. I wanted a cute little 7 week old puppy, I wanted to maybe have a litter, I spent $200 on Kody and I thought it was worth it.
The setup at the BYB's was exactly how you're describing a puppy mill. The litter was kept together, in an x-pen, with daily romps outside in the backyard. What a perfect life for a puppy right? Nobody really has any issues with how the puppies at bybs are treated. Except that they're treated like walking, pooping, dollar signs.
Puppy mills are byb's times a million. They don't care about the dogs at all. Most byb's don't have dogs dying every day. Most byb don't have a hole dug in their backyard to burn the carcasses.
I just truly and honestly, with no disrespect intended, want to ask you WHERE you are getting your information on puppy mills? Please just answer me that?
See though, the dogs in that picture don't LIVE inside the crates. They SLEEP and EAT inside their crates. They get to finish their own food at their leisure, without worrying another dog is going to steal it. They are kept safe from household cleaning chemicals and electrical cords, or getting injured fighting with each other. Not every dog loves it's packmates 100% of the time.
They ride inside cars in their crates so they don't fly through a broken window and die of head trauma/laceration if there is a car accident.
They DO get outside to potty, and play with each other, play in the yard, etc. They get held on people's laps, brushed, snuggled, etc. They DON'T get bred every heat, some don't get bred at all. Most might be bred 1-3 times in their lives before they are retired.
In a puppymill, they don't have any of those things. Their feet never touch real ground. Ever. Unlike those paps, they don't get out to potty, they just poop and pee on the dog underneath them. They don't get cleaned. They don't get loved. They do get bred every heat, and if a puppy gets stuck in the birth canal both mother and puppy are left to die.
They ride inside cars in their crates so they don't fly through a broken window and die of head trauma/laceration if there is a car accident.
They DO get outside to potty, and play with each other, play in the yard, etc. They get held on people's laps, brushed, snuggled, etc. They DON'T get bred every heat, some don't get bred at all. Most might be bred 1-3 times in their lives before they are retired.
In a puppymill, they don't have any of those things. Their feet never touch real ground. Ever. Unlike those paps, they don't get out to potty, they just poop and pee on the dog underneath them. They don't get cleaned. They don't get loved. They do get bred every heat, and if a puppy gets stuck in the birth canal both mother and puppy are left to die.
First of all I keep Lola in a crate at night in my bedroom with the door closed. Simple reason is that is her bed and if I did not do that she would be sleeping in my bed. She goes in their willingly on her own and when I first got Lola my vet recommended a crate.
Foxy, That post was a great contribution to this thread. I think that in Crush's case it fell on deaf ears but still I am glad to see that someone is telling their story about a real life experience. It will not educate him but it will educate others.
Crush, You have yet to address a response to Foxy's post or my post where I provided videos for you to watch. Others have provided videos of puppy mills and you have not addressed any of them. My guess is that your to much of a coward to even look at any of them because they speak the truth as well as Foxy's posts in this thread and you are just to wrapped up in your own little world of disbelief's to even acknowledge that you are totally wrong.
Now if you actually read any of Foxy's posts about pet stores and puppy mills, you would see that the best thing that can be done is that they are closed. Their are more dogs born every day than their are people born everyday because of puppy mills.
Shelters and rescue groups are overflowing because of puppy mills and the only way to stop them from existing is through educating people about the puppy mills. The only way to educate "Mainstream" dog owners is through protesting the pet stores that sell puppies. When the puppy mills no longer become profitable they will shut down and they will find other avenues of work as they have before puppy mills existed.
If your so against dogs not living with their pack and living indoors you would not have gone out and bought a puppy yourself. With the attitude you have I feel sorry for the dog that you bought.
Foxy, That post was a great contribution to this thread. I think that in Crush's case it fell on deaf ears but still I am glad to see that someone is telling their story about a real life experience. It will not educate him but it will educate others.
Crush, You have yet to address a response to Foxy's post or my post where I provided videos for you to watch. Others have provided videos of puppy mills and you have not addressed any of them. My guess is that your to much of a coward to even look at any of them because they speak the truth as well as Foxy's posts in this thread and you are just to wrapped up in your own little world of disbelief's to even acknowledge that you are totally wrong.
Now if you actually read any of Foxy's posts about pet stores and puppy mills, you would see that the best thing that can be done is that they are closed. Their are more dogs born every day than their are people born everyday because of puppy mills.
Shelters and rescue groups are overflowing because of puppy mills and the only way to stop them from existing is through educating people about the puppy mills. The only way to educate "Mainstream" dog owners is through protesting the pet stores that sell puppies. When the puppy mills no longer become profitable they will shut down and they will find other avenues of work as they have before puppy mills existed.
If your so against dogs not living with their pack and living indoors you would not have gone out and bought a puppy yourself. With the attitude you have I feel sorry for the dog that you bought.
I have nothing to add other than:
I own American Pit Bull Terriers. I have a 3-yr-old son and a 1-yr-old son and a baby due in February.
I own American Pit Bull Terriers. I have a 3-yr-old son and a 1-yr-old son and a baby due in February.
:rofl1:Hmmmm . . . . maybe someone should make toddler crates . . . . I guess those are playpens.
