Ban on WALKER?!?!?!?!?

I'm not saying that walkers are evil. Just saying what's going on here. Fiona has a saucer and she loves it. It rocks and she can bounce in it. It just doesn't have wheels. I'm sure it's fine with reponsible parents. Sometimes when fiona's all wound up I think I want one. But really... I don't need one. Like most things it's a personal decision and common sense must prevail.

I really think that a lot of parents watch their kids in it for the first few weeks they have it, then after no problems, decide that it's 'safe' and start to let their guard down. That's where problems happen. It's not necessarily bad parenting. You know how kids are.

Ours is a graco too. We just pull up either the ends or the sides... not both. We make it JUST small enough to fit.

Get a stool hahahaha

Hey now be nice but no to fit in ours and me be able to carry it i would have to fold it all up

Interesting reads ...

http://parenting.ivillage.com/baby/bsafety/0,,46q2,00.html


http://www.babycenter.com/404_will-baby-walkers-and-jumpers-help-my-baby-learn-to-walk_6878.bc

I know toddler that can do that too AND reach things on the edge of the counter. Moral of the story...WATCH YOUR CHILDREN. Babygates aren't just for keeping the dogs out of the kitchen.

Scary

About the pack'n play, I was more thinking of a real play pen, like baby gates attached to each other. I would never have room for two pack'n plays lol.

LOL id love that idea if i had carpet :\

A note: a baby is not likely to roll quickly up to a table, hit the leg and knock hot coffee on themselves if they are just crawling or walking. They move fast in those things. And they hit things harder. Even parents who are diligent might miss something. You have to be very careful

thats not a problem in our house all out furniture is antique solid wood.

Yeah thinking of getting a carpet for it, that we can fold to avoid dog messes too...

I want to get one of those surround gate play pens too. I put a blanket down on the floor for now when Hannah plays.

Banning walkers? I think thats a kind of ridiculous. If more people would properly supervise their children, accidents wouldnt happen. I know parents who throw them in a walker and let them go off and do their own thing. Thats not how its supposed to work. I am ALWAYS there when Madison is in her walker. She likes it better than her bouncer. She can sit upright and play with the toys on her walker.

As far as the stunting a babies development thing... my sister and I were walking before a year old and we both LOVED our walkers. No stunting there.

But some people DO watch their kids and things still happen.

it's easy to blame it on bad parenting but that's not always the case.

I am not a bad parent and Hannah has gotten a little bump or two on her noggin.

Reggin, not trying to single you out but you are the only example I can think of at the moment. the bumbo seats says you should always supervise them and you always do.... but even with you supervising madison still fell out of it. She wasn't hurt because you had her on the bed but even under the watchful eye... sh!t happens.

I don't mean that as in you are a bad mom or you weren't watching... just the opposite. You are a GOOD mom and you were watching her very closely and it still happened.

Kids are unpredictable.

Kids are not only unpredictable they are CRAZY!

Thats never going to happen. We are never going to have a perfect world where everyone watches their kids like they should. Sad, I know..
Its the few people that ruin things for everyone kinda thing..

You don't know how early you would have walked without it though The studies only do averages and maybe you would have walked a few weeks early. We don't know!

Just sayin'

I'm not a fan of them. My saucer allows fiona to play in it with all over her toys as well as bounce and rock

No, that's where the idiots kill off themselves, not their babies. If they were using the walkers for themselves and falling down stairs or getting scalded by hot coffee, fine. But it's reprehensible to think that it's okay for them to kill their babies. Besides, killing the babies doesn't stop the problem... they can still reproduce.

Pertaining more to the topic of this thread, walkers sound really frightening. WHY would anyone manufacture something for a baby that can move that fast?

I think they're fine with limited use, but it can delay many areas of development and shouldn't be used as a tool to give a parent a break. If a baby wants to walk and/or explore, hold their hand and walk them yourself.

True Nolu . . . nothing to stop 'em from breeding again . . .and again and again

It's amazing, though, that the human race has survived at all thus far. I had a zippy walker - my sister had one . . . I never, ever wore a helmet riding a bicycle, or skating. All sorts of things. Maybe the reason we survived this long is because we learned from the little accidents that we were going to have to be aware of the world we live in?

Ever see a toddler - or even a baby, for that matter, who has gotten a mild burn on something and been told 'HOT!'? You'll rarely ever see that child grabbing for anything there's the least bit of warmth radiating from afterwards.

We learn from experience, and you can't eliminate every risk. If you don't allow children to endure some minor consequences the concepts of risk and danger have no meaning to them when it's really and truly urgent.

Most walkers are used before a child can walk unsupported, and I have to believe that there is a lot to be said for allowing carefully supervised independence to develop - even at that young an age.

According to the baby journal my mom kept, it was already before 9 months - probably any earlier and it wouldn't have been a good thing for me structurally, lol.

That's true ... after a certain age. Babies constantly hit their heads on walls, get up and do it again. They aren't capable of connectring things until a later date

And i could 'walk' fiona with support all by myself sine before six months. AND I think jolly jumpers are a safer way for them to learn to be upright and burn energy. They offer a lot more supprt and but dont allow them to race around the house