True or False

[Gsd_pitboxer]

In my opinion this is FALSE , but i thought i'd post it just to see .

My mom bought my a little year calender , and everyday you rip the previous days page off . (each day has a page and saying ). So this calender is about dogs and cats and says " its imformation you'd never think you'd hear ".

It states :

Cats have a memory up to 16 hours. Where a dog looses memory after 5 minutes.

I thought to myself , how do you train them ? how do they remember squirels and cats ? ( my dog tried getting a squirrel about a month ago and still goes out running thinking its their )

 

[smkie]

Funny i had a dog that remembered a game we played years after we hadn't seen each other. 7 years to be exact. So my vote is false.

 

[Gsd_pitboxer]

im going to try and get a picture of this little "daily saying" .. its really making me mad . They can't put FALSE things. Definitly can't be true.

if they had 5 min memory , wouldnt they forget their names?

 

[Pam111]

I think that maybe it is that there is a difference between learning and memory. Once something is learned, the dog "knows" it but it is not the same as memory

 

[bubbatd]

I'd say false too !

 

[JessLough]

Learning is not memory. Learning is more associating. They associate a word with an action. So is the squirrel thing. You dog associated all squirrels with one squirrel.
It's the same reason why you can't discipline a dog say...10 minutes after the fact, because they won't remember what they did.

I don't know, that is my look at it. Dogs do have short memory... just not sure about cats.

 

[Gsd_pitboxer]

I really dont think dogs have short memory.

 

[JessLough]

Just wanted to add, a point about the memory/training thing. Do you remember being taught how to walk? Probably not. Do you know how to walk? Probably. It is not by MEMORY that you walk, but by associating walking with moving one foot, than the next.

 

[Gsd_pitboxer]

thats not the same comparison .

I dont forget anything now . Past the age of 10 , i've rememberd.

 

[JessLough]

thats not the same comparison .

I dont forget anything now . Past the age of 10 , i've rememberd.

That sure is the same comparison. You are trained to walk and potty trained and trained to talk. Dogs are trained tricks.

 

[sillysally]

Dogs don't have a long memory in the sense that they don't make connection between events a long time after they happen. That's why it is pointless to correct a dog when you've come home and discovered something broken or chewed. The dog is not going to understand what he is being corrected for. Likewise, if I recall Sally in the yard and she comes when called, but I treat her for it 6 minutes later, she is not going to make the connection that she is being treated for the good recall.

 

[Dekka]

I say true.

But I can see how it would be confusing.

 

[Gsd_pitboxer]

yea , i definitly could be wrong . usually am , but right now .. my opinion , they dont really loose memory .. but the more and more you people explain , it helps thanks.

 

[Lolas Dad]

I'd say false also. Probably even false for cats. No matter how many times I put Harley (newly adopted kitten) off the table and tell him not to climb back up here when I am at it he does it 5 minutes later. Well maybe he does remember but just does not want to listen. :rofl1:

By the way his name is Harley because he is a rebel. He actually tries to jump on Lolas back and wrestles with her and he takes his front paws and tries to give her a bear hug.

 

[Dreeza]

hmm, i dunno, I'd say its still false...Oakley seems to remember things that are not taught.

For example...back at home, he saw a bunny dart under this one set of bushes...chased it (NOT on cue)...anyways, then we went on at least a 30 min walk...and the second we get back to my house...what does he do? Starts searchin in the bushes. Now he searches those bushes like EVERY freaking time he goes outside. I'd say now it is a learning thing, but that first time...it was memory.

There are other examples like that too.

There def is a difference between learning & memory though...its basically similar to short & long term memory. these 2 types are stored in different parts of the brain & need some sort of mechanism to transfer from short to long term....

So technically if the entire walk, Oakley was thinking "gotta get those bushes, gotta get those bushes"...he woulda transferred the memory, thereby it was no longer a short term (5 min) memory...

Would be a pretty interesting thing to look at. I'm sure it has been! I'm def curious now!!

 

[Zoom]

Training is not necessarily memory. Half the time, i can't remember someone's name 45 seconds after they've been introduced to me, but I can sure tell you how to drive a car. I've been trained on the car.

 

[FoxyWench]

i dunno...

dogs remember faces...
or would you say thats also training?
i mean ive known of dogs who dont like people...but when THEIR person comes back after a long buisness trip they are truly excited to see their owners
had this been a different person the reaction woudlnt be the same...
now woudl that mean dogs ONLY remember their people because they associate them with something?

kinda takes the "love" out of a human/dog relationship...

"well your dog only knwos who you are cause you give it treats" lol.

i like to think dogs have "selective" memories...
whether its true or not...im honestly not sure...but i like to think my dog "remembers" me and isnt just trained to recognize cause i have the treats lol.

 

[JessLough]

i dunno...

dogs remember faces...
or would you say thats also training?
i mean ive known of dogs who dont like people...but when THEIR person comes back after a long buisness trip they are truly excited to see their owners
had this been a different person the reaction woudlnt be the same...
now woudl that mean dogs ONLY remember their people because they associate them with something?

kinda takes the "love" out of a human/dog relationship...

"well your dog only knwos who you are cause you give it treats" lol.

i like to think dogs have "selective" memories...
whether its true or not...im honestly not sure...but i like to think my dog "remembers" me and isnt just trained to recognize cause i have the treats lol.

I would argue that dogs recognize scents, not the faces. And really, they associate the scent with either positive or negative.

 

[Dekka]

No Foxy I don't think it has to do with treats. Its like a dog doesn't 'remember' peeing on the floor 5 min ago sort of thing. They can know things with out remembering them in context.