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No offense showpug, but that sounds like a rather mechanical way of looking at a very emotional issue - not just a reality. Taking that logic one step further, as humans, do we have a 'reproductive responsibility' to create children for the sole reason we can? and that we should do so as often as we can - for the simple reason it's our responsibility?
I don't support abortion except in cases of rape - and I'll be the first to salute a woman who doesn't abort a pregnancy due to rape - I wouldn't disuade her from that abortion though.
I don't support abortion except in cases of rape - and I'll be the first to salute a woman who doesn't abort a pregnancy due to rape - I wouldn't disuade her from that abortion though.
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Either go through it (only 9 months) and save a human life or kill the baby? you say that the mother shouldnt pay for it so she should kill the baby, but guess what? by killing the baby then he would be paying for it! you blame the man, but then you kill the poor baby? dont you think the woman would feel good about saving the babies life and giving it a family, or you think she will look back and feel good about killing her baby?
Andrew, it's a simple fact that biologically women have babies, not men. There is nothing we can do to change it. That was my point, so it's our responsibility even in the midst of a horrible situation to do the right thing. There is no part of me that disregards the fact that rape is indeed horrible and emotional, but that doesn't mean a baby should die, period.
Crossing the road yields tragic results once in a while. Delivering babies - even those conceived in love carries hazards for the mother including post-partum (sp?) depression - which has in some instances escalated tragically for both the mother and child. Everything we do - not just medically - has it's risks....making it sound like abortion is the only option that carries risks is close to/if not fear-mongering.
I'll say it again; I don't agree with abortion - except in instances of rape (or rare instances where loss of life would result in keeping the baby - but thats a different scenario).
"An irresponsible roll of the dice" would imply gambling. I'm quite sure victoms of rape who choose abortion aren't gambling....they're doing the only thing that makes sense to them.
I'll say it again; I don't agree with abortion - except in instances of rape (or rare instances where loss of life would result in keeping the baby - but thats a different scenario).
"An irresponsible roll of the dice" would imply gambling. I'm quite sure victoms of rape who choose abortion aren't gambling....they're doing the only thing that makes sense to them.
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What I'm circling around is that children should be conceived out of love - if conception takes place as a result of an act of violence, I no longer regard delivering the baby as that womans responsibility - for the simple reason she was not responsible in ANY way for that conception.
To look at it from a different point of view, if the rape had never taken place - and conception had never taken place, nothing would have come from that egg except for - well lets just say the commercial that plugs "being a girl rocks" hasn't convinced me of that yet
To look at it from a different point of view, if the rape had never taken place - and conception had never taken place, nothing would have come from that egg except for - well lets just say the commercial that plugs "being a girl rocks" hasn't convinced me of that yet
AndrewF said:
To look at it from a different point of view, if the rape had never taken place - and conception had never taken place, nothing would have come from that egg except for - well lets just say the commercial that plugs "being a girl rocks" hasn't convinced me of that yet
In some instances. And to be perfectly honest, until you can break down all your statistics regarding abortion to specifically address the issue of abortion stemming from rape, they serve no purpose because they address mostly women who were in a 'better frame of mind' and because rape carries it's own baggage which I'm willing do bet supercedes anything else the woman may have to go through at that time.
read about post abortion statistics. google it. a large percentage of women become extremely depressed (clinically) after having an abortion and during/after therapy they come to the conclusion that the abortion was the root cause. a large percentage of women become suicidal after having an abortion (could be that day, could be 50 years later) and eventually realize that the abortion was the cause, the original/root cause. and many of them become strongly anti-abortion.
if you argue that women should be allowed to have an abortion for whatever reason/reasons you believe it, then why dont you argue that a mother should be able to kill her 1 year old baby for the same reasons? she doesnt have time to be a mother, she cant put up with it, the stress is going to cause a heart attack, she doesnt have enough free time to take care of a kid, she never wanted the baby in the first place but felt like she had to have it (family/spouse/community/religious pressure), etc etc etc. why dont you feel that way? because that is taking a life.
the abortion time frame limits (time of pregnancy when you can and cannot have an abortion) are decided depending on when they beleive life starts. is it when the heart begins to beat? is ti when the child could be removed and survive outside of the womb (with or without medical help)? or is it when the cells 1st begin to form? the cells are not a part of your body really, they are 2 cells that depend on you for life as much as a fetus. murder is murder wether it is done at 1 month of pregnancy or at 100 years old.
if you argue that women should be allowed to have an abortion for whatever reason/reasons you believe it, then why dont you argue that a mother should be able to kill her 1 year old baby for the same reasons? she doesnt have time to be a mother, she cant put up with it, the stress is going to cause a heart attack, she doesnt have enough free time to take care of a kid, she never wanted the baby in the first place but felt like she had to have it (family/spouse/community/religious pressure), etc etc etc. why dont you feel that way? because that is taking a life.
the abortion time frame limits (time of pregnancy when you can and cannot have an abortion) are decided depending on when they beleive life starts. is it when the heart begins to beat? is ti when the child could be removed and survive outside of the womb (with or without medical help)? or is it when the cells 1st begin to form? the cells are not a part of your body really, they are 2 cells that depend on you for life as much as a fetus. murder is murder wether it is done at 1 month of pregnancy or at 100 years old.
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but it is not the babies fault for the rape. the baby has no idea that his mother has been raped. people who are pro-choice just do not think that the baby should have a chance at life and they think that the baby should have to pay for what happened. women who get abortions are emotionaly scared for the rest of their lives, so they suffer too.
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