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[rottiegirl]

It's not really a matter of being a quick fix. But if the person who raped the other person becomes pregnant with his baby, first of all there's a question of morals.

Do you really want to carry the seed of the man who raped you? Humiliated you? I saw in a movie once, a woman let her child live and she never wanted to see him because he brought back such bad memories. I'm pretty sure that that any normal female would feel the same way if it happened to them.

Also, the baby is prone to taking a lot of the male's bad characteristics. If the killer had an anger problem, the kid will probably inherit that. There is something WRONG with the man if he raped somebody. The baby WILL retain SOMETHING bad.

Also, I'd say it depends on age, too. If a 13 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant, abortion is the best choice. In all rape cases, I believe the baby should be aborted.

If it's just some girl using abortion as a sex pill (believe me, a lot of women do it) then the kids should be adopted. Basically if it was of her own free will, then the kid should be adopted out-- it's really only fair. But not in rape cases, no.

The child will inherit bad characteristics? Do you know how many child molesters have childeren? thanks to you, now a child will feel like there is something wrong with them just because their dad was a rapist or molester. I have a major anger problem and I have had emotional problems yet my father was not a rapist. you dont make sence to me at all. If i got pregnant from being raped the last thing that i want to do is kill the only inocent thing that came out of it, and you could always adopt the child out to a good family. there are tons of women who regret getting an abortion, because they were raped. You say that all rape victims child will retain something bad, but go ahead and talk to a child that resulted of a rape and they will prove you wrong!

 

[tessa_s212]

It's not really a matter of being a quick fix. But if the person who raped the other person becomes pregnant with his baby, first of all there's a question of morals.

Do you really want to carry the seed of the man who raped you? Humiliated you? I saw in a movie once, a woman let her child live and she never wanted to see him because he brought back such bad memories. I'm pretty sure that that any normal female would feel the same way if it happened to them.

Also, the baby is prone to taking a lot of the male's bad characteristics. If the killer had an anger problem, the kid will probably inherit that. There is something WRONG with the man if he raped somebody. The baby WILL retain SOMETHING bad.

Also, I'd say it depends on age, too. If a 13 year old girl is raped and becomes pregnant, abortion is the best choice. In all rape cases, I believe the baby should be aborted.

If it's just some girl using abortion as a sex pill (believe me, a lot of women do it) then the kids should be adopted. Basically if it was of her own free will, then the kid should be adopted out-- it's really only fair. But not in rape cases, no.

Agreed.

 

[rottiegirl]

It makes me sad to hear someone say that killing a baby is the right thing to do. Why do you agree that all babies resulting from rape should be killed? I dont understand that. Do you think that there will be something wrong with the baby? A person is not born with the genetic make up to rape someone. Everyone has different problems. to say that a baby will have genetic problems just because their dad raped a women is very prejudiced! So are you saying that anyone who commits a crime should not have childeren?

 

[tessa_s212]

I believe in rape cases that the "baby"(it wouldn't actually be a baby at this point in time) should be aborted immediately if the woman chose to have it done.

 

[rottiegirl]

I believe in rape cases that the "baby"(it wouldn't actually be a baby at this point in time) should be aborted immediately if the woman chose to have it done.

Ok, i was confused, because you said that you agreed with bigdog, and bigdog said that every baby should be aborted if they resulted from a rape. Do you believe that the baby will have genetic problems? If a fetus is not a baby then what is it? is it a living thing? A babies heart beat begins around the 18th day, and abortions usualy take place way after 18 days. The brain is functional at 40 days.

 

[BigDog2191]

The child will inherit bad characteristics? Do you know how many child molesters have childeren? thanks to you, now a child will feel like there is something wrong with them just because their dad was a rapist or molester. I have a major anger problem and I have had emotional problems yet my father was not a rapist. you dont make sence to me at all. If i got pregnant from being raped the last thing that i want to do is kill the only inocent thing that came out of it, and you could always adopt the child out to a good family. there are tons of women who regret getting an abortion, because they were raped. You say that all rape victims child will retain something bad, but go ahead and talk to a child that resulted of a rape and they will prove you wrong!

So? I have anger problems, too. But it's in my FAMILY. It's called GENETICS.

If the guy had the mental ability to RAPE somebody- there is SOMETHING wrong with them. Now... this is where GENETICS comes into play. The baby will retain a bad characteristic, or at least it's EXTREMELY likely.

I didn't insult anyone intentionally, I'm stating facts. I'm sorry that genetics takes place in life-- my bad.

And guess what? There are tons of women who regret NOT getting an abortion over rape.

 

[rottiegirl]

So? I have anger problems, too. But it's in my FAMILY. It's called GENETICS.

If the guy had the mental ability to RAPE somebody- there is SOMETHING wrong with them. Now... this is where GENETICS comes into play. The baby will retain a bad characteristic, or at least it's EXTREMELY likely.

I didn't insult anyone intentionally, I'm stating facts. I'm sorry that genetics takes place in life-- my bad.

And guess what? There are tons of women who regret NOT getting an abortion over rape

The mental ability to rape someone is not in a persons genetics. If that was true then you would see a trend of many people in one family being rapists or muderers, but thats not so. Yes, anger is influenced by genes, but not rape. If rape was in a persons genes then I guess murder and stealing are in a persons genes too.

 

[blue]

I know of one case where a child was born do to rape, that son is loved by his family, he has no criminal background and shows no sign of violent behavior or traits.

I am positive where there is one family that can look past the horrible violent way the child was concieved there are others.

 

[Babyblue5290]

So? I have anger problems, too. But it's in my FAMILY. It's called GENETICS.

If the guy had the mental ability to RAPE somebody- there is SOMETHING wrong with them. Now... this is where GENETICS comes into play. The baby will retain a bad characteristic, or at least it's EXTREMELY likely.

I didn't insult anyone intentionally, I'm stating facts. I'm sorry that genetics takes place in life-- my bad.

That's actually not a fact. They don't know if it's nurture, nature, or a mixture of both that makes people who they are. Just because one of your parents have anger issues doesn't mean you will. It all depends on how you where raised, and possibly a little with genetics, but it's wrong to say because someone is a child of a rapist/murderer or whatever means they will have bad characteristics inherited from that parent. They may or may not have a bad personality but it isn't necessarily because (not genetically at least) of their parent. A lot of factors will contribute to it.

That said, I think I already mentioned I'm pro-choice.

 

[rottiegirl]

Men rape for a few different reasons, because they like having control over another human, because they hate women, or because of sexual frustration. When a person rapes its not caused by genetics its caused by what they were taught, how they were treated, learned behaviours and other factors.

 

[BigDog2191]

That's actually not a fact. They don't know if it's nurture, nature, or a mixture of both that makes people who they are. Just because one of your parents have anger issues doesn't mean you will. It all depends on how you where raised, and possibly a little with genetics, but it's wrong to say because someone is a child of a rapist/murderer or whatever means they will have bad characteristics inherited from that parent. They may or may not have a bad personality but it isn't necessarily because (not genetically at least) of their parent. A lot of factors will contribute to it.

That said, I think I already mentioned I'm pro-choice.

If you have a long line, in your family, of Genetic predisposition to anger, you will MOST LIKELY have it. Unless it's faught against while you're young. But see, you have to fight against it.

Same goes with rape, if you're father was an insane criminal you WILL inherit some bad traits, you can fight against them but it will be a lot harder for you. It's genetics, I'm sorry.

Rottiegirl, referring to your last post, I recall reading something about how... I'm not sure how to put it but, genetics have a large role in it. You may meet an upstanding citizen in society who was the result of a rape but they may fight against it a lot harder than a normal person. Or they satiate it with something else. Like my anger, it's satiated with kickboxing or physical exertion.

 

[Babyblue5290]

If you have a long line, in your family, of Genetic predisposition to anger, you will MOST LIKELY have it. Unless it's faught against while you're young. But see, you have to fight against it.

Same goes with rape, if you're father was an insane criminal you WILL inherit some bad traits, you can fight against them but it will be a lot harder for you. It's genetics, I'm sorry.

Rottiegirl, referring to your last post, I recall reading something about how... I'm not sure how to put it but, genetics have a large role in it. You may meet an upstanding citizen in society who was the result of a rape but they may fight against it a lot harder than a normal person. Or they satiate it with something else. Like my anger, it's satiated with kickboxing or physical exertion.

Show me something showing me that this is a FACT and not just speculation.

MY father and all down his family line has MAJOR anger issues, but I'm pretty placid. Your anger issues may not be genetic (they may but youdon't know for sure) they may be from your upbringing. You may react to certain situations from watching people around you react.

Now brain chemistry does have a role of how your react, but it's not the deciding factor. You could be born to a rapist, given up as a baby to a GOOD family and turn out to be a wonderful person! Just because your parents are bad doesn't mean you'll have those characteristics.

 

[BigDog2191]

Show me something showing me that this is a FACT and not just speculation.

MY father and all down his family line has MAJOR anger issues, but I'm pretty placid. Your anger issues may not be genetic (they may but youdon't know for sure) they may be from your upbringing. You may react to certain situations from watching people around you react.

Now brain chemistry does have a role of how your react, but it's not the deciding factor. You could be born to a rapist, given up as a baby to a GOOD family and turn out to be a wonderful person! Just because your parents are bad doesn't mean you'll have those characteristics.

If you're going to want sources, you better pull out some yourself.

Concerning the bold, I agree. But it's harder for them to control their "anger" or whatever predisposition they have. They normally have something else that they satiate it with.

Didn't you mention you're a runner?

 

[Babyblue5290]

If you're going to want sources, you better pull out some yourself.

Concerning the bold, I agree. But it's harder for them to control their "anger" or whatever predisposition they have. They normally have something else that they satiate it with.

Didn't you mention you're a runner?

Which part would you like sources on? The last part? I'd be more than happy to suply them for you. Also I still would like to see some sources if you can find some.

I don't even run that often! I am not fighting any anger issues, I run only when I have to for school mostly and to stay in shape. Plus lucas needs some excersise lol

How do you know it's harder for them to control their anger?

 

[rottiegirl]

Same goes with rape, if you're father was an insane criminal you WILL inherit some bad traits, you can fight against them but it will be a lot harder for you. It's genetics, I'm sorry.

Rottiegirl, referring to your last post, I recall reading something about how... I'm not sure how to put it but, genetics have a large role in it. You may meet an upstanding citizen in society who was the result of a rape but they may fight against it a lot harder than a normal person. Or they satiate it with something else. Like my anger, it's satiated with kickboxing or physical exertion

Ok, you are confused as to what genetics are and how they play a part in a persons life. Let me get some links and you see that you are very wrong. If rape was in your genetics then it would run in the rapist family, and it doesnt.

 

[BigDog2191]

Which part would you like sources on? The last part? I'd be more than happy to suply them for you. Also I still would like to see some sources if you can find some.

I don't even run that often! I am not fighting any anger issues, I run only when I have to for school mostly and to stay in shape. Plus lucas needs some excersise lol

How do you know it's harder for them to control their anger?

It's genetics.

With a dog, if the dog is genetically prone to bad temperament then anger or what predisposition you have is easily triggered. But you have to fight against it. Combination of common sense and genetics is my source. I'll try and find one though.

And Rottiegirl, I'm not confused. I'm just stating what I believe. But I like reading up on genetics, so go ahead. But please, something reputable. Not ogrish...

 

[rottiegirl]

And Rottiegirl, I'm not confused. I'm just stating what I believe. But I like reading up on genetics, so go ahead. But please, something reputable. Not ogrish...

when i posted a link to orgrish it was for the pictures, not for the information.

 

[BigDog2191]

when i posted a link to orgrish it was for the pictures, not for the information.

That makes sense ...

 

[Dreeza]

It makes me sad to hear someone say that killing a baby is the right thing to do. Why do you agree that all babies resulting from rape should be killed? I dont understand that. Do you think that there will be something wrong with the baby? A person is not born with the genetic make up to rape someone. Everyone has different problems. to say that a baby will have genetic problems just because their dad raped a women is very prejudiced! So are you saying that anyone who commits a crime should not have childeren?

ok, im kinda butting in on your guys' debate, but oh well!

ok, lets put genetics aside for a second here.

Now i will use myself as an example...I get raped...i would have an abortion...or take the morning after pill (not sure if you consider that an abortion...)..whatever it takes NOT to have the baby.

I am frickin NINETEEN years old. I am a sophomore in college, i have dreams and ambitions. A baby would ruin that, plain and simple. Not that i dont want to have children later on, but no now....that is why i use BCPs...cause i dont wanna get pregnant!! I dont feel like carrying a baby around for 9 months either, and then having to adopt it out...once again, kinda ruins my plans...

I do NOT think it is fair to force an INNOCENT girl to have that responsobility of carrying around a child. So you say it can just get adopted...

ok, so what if that girl lives a very active social life...smokes, drinks...umm HELLO...ever heard of fetal alcohol syndrome??? Carrying a baby is a LOT of responsibility. its not like a chicken that can just sit on an egg...

You whole lifestyle must change, you have to eat properly, and really work hard to make sure your baby is healthy.

Dont you think it is enough that some poor girl got RAPED?? Now you want her to have to think about it, every single day for NINE months...complete alter her lifestyle just cause some sick f*ck wanted to get off???

this is not about genetics...this is about the girl's life too. As far as i know, during pregnancy, if only the mom or baby can live...they usually kill the baby...what do you think of that?? Why do you think that is? Course that is a different matter, and an extremely sad one...but umm, if it were me...i would want to live...and i am sure my husband (well, when i have one)would rather have me live than the baby...


yah, and i only read the last two pages that were about genetics...so i was assuming some people were using genetics as reasoning to have abortions...i dont really agree with that... but i am VERY pro-choice

 

[Babyblue5290]

I totally agree with everything you just said!

yah, and i only read the last two pages that were about genetics...so i was assuming some people were using genetics as reasoning to have abortions...i dont really agree with that... but i am VERY pro-choice

No they where using genetics as a reason not to have a baby from the product of a rape. Saying the baby would inherit bad traits from the rapist and so on.