So you want to get your pet into film....

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I get asked about this all the time (in real life, on here and other places..) This is just MY experience, there are different ways to go about it. It will help if you live near where these things happen. (with pics so its not just a big block of text ;) )


Start with you. Do you want to wrangle your own dog? This is what I do. I work with the director directly. If so are you a calm and confident person? Film sets are high stress places. You are also working with non animal people for the most who may or may not 'get' issues that affect your pet.

IMO the most important role you have on set is to look after your pet's welfare. More important than the money or your reputation is your relationship with your pet and their welfare. And yes this can be an issue. You have to be able to stand up to a stressed out director who is worrying about all the money going down the drain with every setback... and say your animal can't do the scene, or needs a break, or needs to get warmer...



You can end up working in some crazy places (like on the ice of Georgian Bay in Febuary, see above) You also have to speak up if someone is in danger of your animal. The very first film I worked on was with my horses. I had to keep telling them they couldnt' do things as the horses wouldn't be keen on it, and horses hurt if they kick you. Well Peak got startled and kicked me with both back legs and sent me flying. After that the crew were a lot better about listening.

So you say you are calm and collected and know how to be assertive. GREAT! Now to your dog.

Your dog has to be stable!!! And resilient. First thing Dekka had to do was be held by a stranger with me out of site. The stranger then backed into a fridge whilst holding her. The fridge was then closed and dark (camera was filming through a hole cut in the back) the actor light his lighter and then had to loose it...screaming like he was dying. All while holding my dog. ANd no the director didn't tell me that was how that scene would be shot... many things the director thinks of will be spur of the moment, or they might not think anything of it. Your dog has to be able to take these sorts of things and bounce back. Your dog has to be willing to repeat the same thing many many many times and not get discouraged.

Get your dog is as used to commotion and crowds as possible. Movie sets are busy and at times VERY crowded places. You have stressed out people and strange equipment. Some of the sets I have worked on its so crowded its almost impossible to move. Yesterday Dekka was in her down stay and crew were stepping over her and moving lights around her etc. You need a stable calm dog. You also need to know your dog's limits. Sport grabbed the director when he went to grab his collar (before I could get a word out) They did make up but it upset me that I didn't protect Sport from that, and that he grabbed the Director by the arm.

They made up though lol


You need a dog who can work off leash in highly distracting environments. This is an example of one of the sets from Sport's first and only film


notice the road, and the lack of containment.



Would you be comfortable working in such an environment?

You then need to train your dog to ignore other people giving cues, and other fun things. See this fluffy thing on the end of the boom?



That is called a dead cat. I am serious... Now even if your dog loves fluffy toys they have to ignore this thing as it moves around and hovers over them.

Training, train your dog a rock solid and relaxed stay. Pretty much everything I have worked on requires a lot of stationary stuff.



Stay on moving objects...lol like the director moving the dog bed your dog is on, or as part of the shot.


Train your dog to do all sorts of things, but be prepared for it to be the little things that count. Can you train your dog to lie there, put their head down, and then pick their head up? Or not to look interested in food even when the actor has to try to get them to eat? Train anything you can think of. Use non verbal cues as well as verbal ones.

Ok so you have got this far and are still good lol?

When talking to directors be confident. Dont' lie, but don't depreciate. If you think your animal will be able to perform say so. Now is not the time to be modest. This is not a modest industry. I got some awesome advice from a long time man in the industry, bluff when you have too. If you think you can do it say you can. If its your first time, say so but be confident. Get as much experience performing as you can. Trial, join demo groups. Then once you and your dog are used to 'performing' in front of people, or for competition advertise. Or if there is a film school nearby call them up. Say that you are willing to work with student film makers, and that because you want to break into the field you are willing to work for 'cheap'. (cheap is anywhere from 100-200 dollars a day IME plus expenses) Mandy's Film and TV Production Directory - television - video - broadcast is an excellent resource. Toss up a website, with good pics of your pet and a bio.

Some chazzers have interesting other pets. I think it would be awesome to see more ferts in film ;) These advice goes along with the dog stuff, except you likely don't need off leash ability. If you have a horse, make sure they are not spooky. The reflectors they use can be large and 'scary'



If anyone has questions I would love to answer them. It would be fun to see more critters I know in film.
 

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Thank you sooo much for posting this - it's something I've been interested in for a while but had no clue how to get started. We have a university school for the arts here so I may put some feelers out there for student films - seems like a great place to get our feet wet!

Any experience with which types of dogs seem to be cast most - generic or unique? Small, medium, or large? Dark or light? etc.
 

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Oh right forgot to say. Dark dogs are not generally cast (unless they are specifically looking for 'scary' big black dog) as they are hard to film. If your dog is dark with markings you are likely ok. Fun fact, there are people who specialize in lighting for black actors, as its tricky for them too.

I have mainly small dogs. But I get calls for sport every know and then. (I have been saying no due to the roll they want him to play) I would say small/medium sized dogs would have more call. But you never know.
 

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What about dogs with light bodies and dark faces? ;)

Other than stays, what seems to be the most common skill needed?
 

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solid dark faces are bad. Maybe not for a brief appearance, but if they want dog's expression. Your guys would all be ok.

Really a stay in different positions, and a relaxed stay.. not looking like the dog is ready to leap up at any moment. Well that could be good too lol, but the other one is harder.

Having your dog walk with other people and look natural is good. hmmm the rest is going to depend greatly on the role. Sport had to send to that dead deer with me 150 feet back (it was a wide angle shot) as the actors drove up in an old truck. LOL that wasn't something we had ever worked on. (thank goodness for BCs) I guess having a dog that free shapes would be very handy. That way you can work on the fly.
 

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Hmm so Aerten might have trouble doing film. :p But I could def see Kes and Z working on set. Z especially right now as she is my best fast shaper and most reliable (the joys of being 4 yo lol).

eta: email sent to the local volunteer group for our school of the arts. Paws crossed that they are interested. :)
 
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Great info Dekka! Excellent post. :)

Ferrets would be great in more films, but the issue with the majority of ferrets is that they can't be trained in a lot of the same ways as other animals. It can be done, of course (there's some amazing videos on YouTube) but it has to be The Right Ferret, and that's much harder to find than good movie dogs! Ferrets just don't have the proper attention span or willingness to please.

However, I agree. :D
 

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Love this post, thanks!! I have been really wanting to get Rosco into something like this, as he knows so many things, his stays are very nice, he loves to show off, free shapes so easily and isnt easily freaked out and of loves everyone(might end up being a bad thing haha)
With more work Pepzee might even be a good canidate.
 

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Very well written Dekka. There is NO way Saga would be able to work in that sort of environment. Maybe future dog though...
 

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Love this post, thanks!! I have been really wanting to get Rosco into something like this, as he knows so many things, his stays are very nice, he loves to show off, free shapes so easily and isnt easily freaked out and of loves everyone(might end up being a bad thing haha)
With more work Pepzee might even be a good canidate.
Unfortunately Rosco is solid black... so your options would be very very limited. Not to say don't try, but unless the script calls for a black dog specifically you likely won't get much. Pepzee would likely be a good choice :)
 

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Great post Dekka, I always thought it would be fun to do that with an animal but in reality it would probably drive me up the wall being around lots of clueless animal people. Plus none of the most used behaviours are really things I would put time into teaching a dog.
 

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I've pondered getting Cohen into films/commercials from time to time. Thanks so much for this post. Aussies seem to have a certain "everydog" quality in them so I see them appear a lot in commercial photos. I wonder if the docked tail would be a hindrance.

My trainer has some pretty interesting stories of her dogs doing commercial work. She's been asked to get her dog to go to its mark, turn its head back to the camera, pause, then continue out of frame, etc. She just pulls out her trusty clicker and within a few minutes she has what they've asked for. Sounds pretty neat.

Cohen is a bit flighty yet and isn't yet reliable in distraction-filled environments, but I figure that as I continue to work with her that should be less of a problem. Thanks for the food for thought.
 

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I'm just being nosy, as I'll never have a dog well trained enough for this, lol, but how does Dekka do? Does she like it? Does she ever decide she doesn't want to do something?
 

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Very interesting post! I have wanted to get into this for quite some time but my dogs are black and there's not much work for black dogs. Ferrets are definitely trickier. I have tried training my ferrets and have been able to teach them some things but their short attention span makes training sessions have to be very short. Also most ferrets prefer exploration over food when in strange places.
 

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Very interesting, thanks! Our old barn owner did a lot of film stuff with horses, dogs, and cats. I remember she wanted to use Dally as a puppy for IIRC a Pedigree commercial.

It would be very cool to see Quinn on TV (there was actually a Pedigree commercial a few months ago with a really nice English Shepherd, something about healthy joints), but who knows! I imagine it's pretty tough to get into.
 

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I'm just being nosy, as I'll never have a dog well trained enough for this, lol, but how does Dekka do? Does she like it? Does she ever decide she doesn't want to do something?
Dekka is exceptional at this. She loves it, she gets me all day often for a few days in a row lol and that is her favourite thing ever. No she pretty much never says no. I can only think of one time she said no, and it was awesome and made it into the movie. It was 2am in mostly unheated location (non insulated cabin with one ancient heater) it was maybe 0F in there. We had been shooting for a while (there was a warming station at that location but we hadn't been in it for hours) between takes she was well wrapped up, and just wanted to stay that way and sleep.

I forget what she was supposed to do but she decided she wasn't going to and went and hid instead. We called it quits.

But in general she does it no matter how hard it is, how long we have been doing it, or how many repetitions we have done.

Which is an important point. No matter how well trained your pet is, it does take the right animal to really be happy doing this. I learnt at the shoot on Sat, that Kaiden is NOT comfortable on a busy set.
 

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It would be very cool to see Quinn on TV (there was actually a Pedigree commercial a few months ago with a really nice English Shepherd, something about healthy joints), but who knows! I imagine it's pretty tough to get into.
I don't know, I kind of just fell into it... I got asked to use my horses in a student film. Tried it, and LOVED it. Asked around a bit and tossed up a profile on mandy.com. Thats about it lol. Its one of those things once you have done it once or twice its easier to do more.
 

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So cool! I think Chloe would make an awesome film dog, she's really smart and well behaved.

Someone'd have to REALLY want Violet in their movie to "hire" her. She's freaking crazy, and listens to no one. XD
 

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Unfortunately Rosco is solid black... so your options would be very very limited. Not to say don't try, but unless the script calls for a black dog specifically you likely won't get much. Pepzee would likely be a good choice :)
Yeah I know, that is a bummer, but he can be such a stunner!

With more training I'm sure Pepzee would enjoy it as well, only had him for 2 months now so his skills are now where near Rosco's yet.
 

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