Shock Collars

[Whisper]

Stop being disgusted. What, some of us actually care more about the physical well being of an innocent animal than the potential for hurt human feelings? Boo hoo. This is an animal with no voice. Who is going to stand up for him if his owners won't?

This isn't jumping on a band wagon, Tessa. If you notice, people were helpful in the beginning. People continued to offer alternative suggestions to the shock collar. But I don't think any animal lover can say that this is a good situation for the poor dog. This is not a good home. He deserves better treatment, whether it's from Mutt Luv or from another family entirely.

Leaving a short-coated dog outside in temperatures like that is CRUEL. This is a labrador, not a sled dog. I don't know why this is still being argued. Factor in the beating and mouth-taping? I don't see how that can be called anything but abuse. Since when is abuse okay if it's done by the father of someone you "know" from the internet? If you saw this on TV you'd be outraged, so why is it any different here?

Don't talk to me about not understanding her situation, either. I'm 17. I've grown up with dogs and I know what it's like to have parents with different views. That doesn't excuse the way Mutt Luv is acting about this situation.

Mutt Luv, you have been given good suggestions (more than I can count) and you have rejected them all. I'm sorry, but Rosco needs someone on his side.

:hail: :hail:
Well said.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

Ok, you people are taking it the WRONG way, he doesnt beat the dog, ONLY when he is barking at 7AM and wont shut up, and it happens rarely, also the tape is no big deal, he got it off in a matter of seconds.

You poor child. To see this type of abuse and to think it's okay to keep poor Rosco in that situation speaks volumes about the environment in which you reside. Abuse is NOT okay. NEVER is abuse okay. It is not okay for a dog to be beaten and have it's mouth taped shut if even for a few seconds. It is NOT OKAY.

You say you love your dog, then you must do what is best for this dog that you love so much. Sometimes loving someone or something is being capable of knowing and doing what is best for that being. In this case, this dog deserves a better house, a better life- free of abuse.

Whoa guys, take it easy.

I know Mutt Luv to a certain extent across the internet, and I know the amount of care she puts into her dog. Her dog is not attention deprived or locked in a kennel all day. She does whatever she can to get him out, bring it inside the house, train him, play with him, and give him all the exercise he needs. Rosco has got one heck of a great owner.

Take it easy? You have got to be kidding me! A dog that is loved, played with, trained and has a great owner is NOT ABUSED. *shakes head*

However, Rosco is being mistreated by her father.

Thanks for the clarification. We know this. Being abused by only ONE member of the family does not MAKE it OKAY.

Throwing the dog out here is not the solution.

Re-homing the dog to a home that is not abusive is not "throwing the dog out" it is giving poor Rosco a chance to live a life free of abuse and as a dog- cuz dogs bark.

I tried to understand MuttLuv's problem and I didn't want to be harsh, but this is getting out of hand.

Tessa gave you a great suggestion: Get a crate and keep the dog in your bedroom at night. That would have saved you the cost of the shock collar.

Did you even ask your parents about a crate?

This poor, mistreated dog. Somewhere in your heart or your mind you know that your family is abusing this animal.

I know you won't re-home the dog and that is the saddest part of all of this. Your parents have made you so accustomed to this kind of behavior that you think that it is love, of all things. I truly hope that you don't carry this kind of neglect and ignorance to parenthood.

This just deserved being repeated and a :hail: too.

I am disgusted with the behavior in this thread by some, and can't believe how easy others jump on the band wagon. I sure hope this isn't the way some of you treat people in real life.

I am equally disgusted by your approval of this dog living in an abusive home. Looks like we're even now.

I know he is better off inside, but it wont happen, I have tryed MANY times but its just not gonna happen, maybe later but NOT now, I'm gonna foster puppies this summer and they will be inside at night, so maybe if I'm lucky, I can perswade my parents to let Rosco in to!!!

I don't care how old you are and warning- this is going to be harsh- how dare you bring a litter of puppies into an abusive home. A home that is so uneducated and undeserving of the love of a dog. A home that can not provide for the safety and care of one dog, but will bring in a number of puppies? For what? For more abuse? Wrong, wrong, wrong.

To put a device such as a shock collar on an abused dog is simply asking for trouble.

Dogs bark, it's what they do. Cat's meow and rats squeak. All animals have a voice, how rude is to to deny an animal their voice or to crucify it for their voice? *shakes head*

Rosco needs a home where he can be a dog.

Love him enough to let him go, love him enough to let him live the rest of his years as a dog..free of abuse and tape around his snout.

 

[Lizmo]

Stop being disgusted. What, some of us actually care more about the physical well being of an innocent animal than the potential for hurt human feelings? Boo hoo. This is an animal with no voice. Who is going to stand up for him if his owners won't?

This isn't jumping on a band wagon, Tessa. If you notice, people were helpful in the beginning. People continued to offer alternative suggestions to the shock collar. But I don't think any animal lover can say that this is a good situation for the poor dog. This is not a good home. He deserves better treatment, whether it's from Mutt Luv or from another family entirely.

Leaving a short-coated dog outside in temperatures like that is CRUEL. This is a labrador, not a sled dog. I don't know why this is still being argued. Factor in the beating and mouth-taping? I don't see how that can be called anything but abuse. Since when is abuse okay if it's done by the father of someone you "know" from the internet? If you saw this on TV you'd be outraged, so why is it any different here?

Don't talk to me about not understanding her situation, either. I'm 17. I've grown up with dogs and I know what it's like to have parents with different views. That doesn't excuse the way Mutt Luv is acting about this situation.

Mutt Luv, you have been given good suggestions (more than I can count) and you have rejected them all. I'm sorry, but Rosco needs someone on his side.

Exactly :hail: I feel the exact same way about this situation.

 

[AgilityPup]

WARNING!!!!! VERY VERY VERY HARSH.... MAY OFFEND!!!!!!!!! Dont read if you cant stand the truth!



OMG!! This has gone too far! what NEEDS to be done is the dog re-homed! Simple as that, I know what its like to be 14 and yes, I know what its like for your parents to make decissons without you, BUT SUCK IT UP! Show your love for the dog, and give him some where, where he can live a GREAT life, you may think he is living a good life, but you my dear, are LYING TO YOURSELF! The life you have given you poor dog (who mind you, CAN NOT speak his mind, OR DEFEND himslef) is horrible, and I think its crule.

I am sorry if what I have said has offended you but I am only stating the truth. The people on this forum know what they are talking about, *some* may not know how to go about telling you that, but they are right. I dont care if your abusing the dog, or your father, mother, or all of you, it is still abuse! and its WRONG!

Shame on anyone who thinks this is a good life for a dog.

I also think that anyone who can do that (tape its mouth shut! and beat it!) should have the same done to them!!! I also think that if you have put a shock collar on your dog, everyone in your house hold should be wearing one, and everytime you shock that innocent dog, you would get shocked 10 time harder and more.


Do the right thing, re-home your dog!

Shay....


Think about someone other than yourself.

 

[Plear]

Jeez.

To the OP -- you have been given SO many options for this situation but have denied every single one of them and come up with excuses. You created this thread wanting help, but denying that your dad isn't abusing your dog is preventing you from getting your dog the help it so DESPRETELY needs.

Here's a similar situation, having to do with the question of giving a dog up or not.
I'm also 14 years old. I've got 2 spayed females, a Corgi and a Lab. They have to be seperated because they will fight -to the death- if they are brought together, and the behaviorist we hired said it was territorial/alpha dog stuff. The behaviorist also couldn't get our dogs to stop fighting, so we have gone to great lengths to seperate our two dogs to avoid them fighting. Recently, I was getting the Corgi in from her bathroom break and was leading her up to my room, when a freak accident happened and my brothers let my Lab out of their room and they went at it. Neither of them were hurt (but I was..), but we are now finding a home for the Corgi. I told my friend this and she said "WHY?!" my reply was "Because we love her enough to get her out of this dangerous house. I don't want to be selfish and keep her, then have an accident and end up with a bloody Corgi on the living room floor."
I guess some people just don't see it like I do.

 

[Zoom]

I'm going to go ahead and recommend this be locked this since it's gone as far as it can without just being another three pages of negativity. The OP has made it clear how much effort she is willing to put into this. Should something change, by all means make us a new thread.

 

[Renee750il]

You poor child. To see this type of abuse and to think it's okay to keep poor Rosco in that situation speaks volumes about the environment in which you reside. Abuse is NOT okay. NEVER is abuse okay. It is not okay for a dog to be beaten and have it's mouth taped shut if even for a few seconds. It is NOT OKAY.

You say you love your dog, then you must do what is best for this dog that you love so much. Sometimes loving someone or something is being capable of knowing and doing what is best for that being. In this case, this dog deserves a better house, a better life- free of abuse.



Take it easy? You have got to be kidding me! A dog that is loved, played with, trained and has a great owner is NOT ABUSED. *shakes head*



Thanks for the clarification. We know this. Being abused by only ONE member of the family does not MAKE it OKAY.



Re-homing the dog to a home that is not abusive is not "throwing the dog out" it is giving poor Rosco a chance to live a life free of abuse and as a dog- cuz dogs bark.



This just deserved being repeated and a :hail: too.



I am equally disgusted by your approval of this dog living in an abusive home. Looks like we're even now.



I don't care how old you are and warning- this is going to be harsh- how dare you bring a litter of puppies into an abusive home. A home that is so uneducated and undeserving of the love of a dog. A home that can not provide for the safety and care of one dog, but will bring in a number of puppies? For what? For more abuse? Wrong, wrong, wrong.

To put a device such as a shock collar on an abused dog is simply asking for trouble.

Dogs bark, it's what they do. Cat's meow and rats squeak. All animals have a voice, how rude is to to deny an animal their voice or to crucify it for their voice? *shakes head*

Rosco needs a home where he can be a dog.

Love him enough to let him go, love him enough to let him live the rest of his years as a dog..free of abuse and tape around his snout.

And, on that note, let's end this.