Service Dog (Assistance Dog): Advice, input, sources needed

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Body blocking is one of the things I'm most excited about. Just that extra "touch" to keep his mind in the present to stop him from just wandering off to the side, front or lagging behind will be wonderful. It's hard to even go walking in our neighborhood because he drifts so much, and since we don't have sidewalks (country subdivision 1-way in/out, but still has 240 houses so there are always cars), I feel exhausted after what's supposed to be a fun relaxing walk. And when I stressed, then all 3 of them feel it.

I'm also thrilled with the deep pressure techniques. And although Cole is already huge for his age (4'7", 95 lbs, and in a size 6 shoe :yikes: ), I'm not looking into having the dog jump up on him to apply pressure to the chest, but rather lie over his legs/lap. It came to me that when Cole is having problems focusing on reading for homework, I get a somewhat thick/heavier blanket and drape it over his lap, and he does so much better with it. We do much of his work sitting on the floor, as the sensation of sitting on our table bench (he complains it hurts his legs after a while), the bright kitchen lights, the other 2 boys running around playing, well...it's all too much. But this way the dog could help during that time as well.

As for the seizure alert, I would want the dog to come get me if she senses a seizure at bay or one actively occurring. I've been told that training the dog to ring a bell (hand a bell pull from a doorknob somewhere or off the wall) would be better than trying to have the dog alert me in a more physical manner, to which I agree. Of course, if we're not at home, this would pose a problem.

Also, often times immediately after a seizure (zoning out, blank staring, often repetitive finger jabbing motion, & sometimes muttering jibberish), Cole will be VERY confused/disoriented and often just collapses. Like he will literally fall asleep in whatever position he's in, which has been standing at times, and just hit the deck. I've caught him most times, but not all. Maybe having the dog brace against him would help?

Honestly, I'm so excited, but I'm also already started to feel overwhelmed.

I appreciate everyone's responses and help. Pease bear with me through this, and remember that my perspective is that as the mother of a 7-year-old boy who is just now figuring out how to use words to verbally express how or what he's feeling (he's very intelligent and speaks with a wonderful vocabulary, but as those with similar conditions know, actually being able to focus and verbalized so others can gain understanding is hard). It so different being the parent and praying that you are making the right decisions and doing the right things. :)
 

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It came to me that when Cole is having problems focusing on reading for homework, I get a somewhat thick/heavier blanket and drape it over his lap, and he does so much better with it.
You ought to look into a weighted blanket or lap pad. They don't require 2 years of advanced training ;) (But they're also not terribly portable...great for home use, though). Just...don't get one from Dreamcatcher. Worst experience ever :wall:
 

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You ought to look into a weighted blanket or lap pad. They don't require 2 years of advanced training ;) (But they're also not terribly portable...great for home use, though). Just...don't get one from Dreamcatcher. Worst experience ever :wall:
We actually are having a blanket made, but since I remember your horror story, I didn't use that company. ;)

But we're getting a pup and that's that. I'm not trying to be rude, but I'm really looking for discussion that would be helpful (and I have gotten that, so thanks to all that have responded in this thread :) ). I've talked to a few people that have told me in detail the tasks their dogs do in response to various situations, and that has been very eye-opening and helpful.
 

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http://servicedogcentral.org/forum/index.php May be helpful.

What I did is I made a list of things I couldn't do because of my disability. Then I thought of what I needed to help (robot is good because it takes out the cute factor of dog), and then how a dog could possibly perform a task. Then I thought about how the task could work in practice, and broke it down into a chain of behaviors.

For example.
I can't always enter my home for fear of intruders.
A robot could search my home and tell me if anyone is inside.
A dog could basically do the same thing. Also, a dog could turn on the lights in a dark room so that I can see before entering.
Cue: "Go Find" "Search" "Lights" or hand signal?
1. Leave me and enter room.
2. Turn on lights.
3. Search room by room.
4. Alert by barking if they find anyone, otherwise return to me.

I would then sort of ask feedback from people who have SDs or who are knowledgeable in the field. Do I want a verbal cue- maybe not because I may be too afraid that someone will hear me. Am I sure I want them to alert bark? If I rent and the dog starts digging at the wall around the light switch what could I do? Use touch lamps instead? Etc, etc.

BUT, I'm only trying to task-train a pet so I don't need to meet public access standards (the hardest part of SD training I'm told). Hope this was helpful.
 

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Thanks, AliciaD! I've been working on a list. That's definitely been great advice - to break it all down first. :)
 

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But we're getting a pup and that's that. I'm not trying to be rude, but I'm really looking for discussion that would be helpful
Are you ****ing kidding me? I tried to give you a suggestion for something that would help NOW and not in 2 years, and this is what I get. **** this ****. Clearly I'm not welcome here, so I'm out. Do whatever the **** you want.
 

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Are you ****ing kidding me? I tried to give you a suggestion for something that would help NOW and not in 2 years, and this is what I get. **** this ****. Clearly I'm not welcome here, so I'm out. Do whatever the **** you want.
I'm not quite sure why no one is allowed to have a service dog except you.
 

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I'm not quite sure why no one is allowed to have a service dog except you.
This has been my thought as well.

I've also not said that I've seen autism dogs working with young children really well. There have been some I don't think should have been out working, but I've really seen a lot of good situations as well.
 

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Are you ****ing kidding me? I tried to give you a suggestion for something that would help NOW and not in 2 years, and this is what I get. **** this ****. Clearly I'm not welcome here, so I'm out. Do whatever the **** you want.
I'm not seeing how or what she said that warranted this reaction?
 

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Are you ****ing kidding me? I tried to give you a suggestion for something that would help NOW and not in 2 years, and this is what I get. **** this ****. Clearly I'm not welcome here, so I'm out. Do whatever the **** you want.


Calm down here. I'm trying to work with you, but you're REFUSING to take into account that I know more than you are assuming I know.

I'm his MOTHER. I've had him for 7 1/2 years. He's been in therapy since he was 6 months old. I, with the advice and support of therapists and doctors, have tried a multitude of different techniques, therapies, devices, aids, etc. Cole has made miraculous strides, and NO ONE expected him to be where he is today. He's not just alive, but he's growing and maturing and learning and living!

Yet you assume I've sat on my a-double s all these years and have done nothing. You assume I just think puppies are cute and wouldn't I think it's cute to get Cole a service dog. NOTHING about this is "cute".

You have NO IDEA who I am, my experience in the special needs world, and what my life has been like as the mother of a special needs child.

I know you are the one with special needs, and I can actually learn from your outlook and experience. However, instead of choosing to share it and offer help to help others with special needs, you sit back and attack others. Would you care to know that my mother was an Adaptive P.E. (Special Ed.) for 19 years? Did you know that I was raised working every single Special Olympics even for more than 10 years of my life in addition to going to work with her and observing & helping out with her students? Did you know that not only do I have a degree in Exercise Physiology, but am also certified in Special Education/Adaptive P.E. should I choose to ever go into education? Did you know that I worked 2 years in pediatrics with children with a wide variety of disabilities/special needs? And I have a special needs child of my very own!

You're refusing to accept that I could possibly know anything about treatments, much less have actually employed the use of any of them.

For your information, we never got Cole a weighted blanket because he HATED and would NOT tolerate a weighted vest whatsoever. The only reason we are just now getting a blanket is because I've found someone local that makes them, and she will customize the size/weight. I'm not an Etsy person, therefore my experience with weighted blankets comes from the standard catalogs, and the didn't have exactly what we were looking for.

I'm very well aware that this dog will take 2 years to be "ready", but IMO it's perfect timing, putting Cole at 10-years-old.

You say you've benefited so much because of your dog, well then how is it you do not wish the same for others? I find that sad. Extremely sad.

You are free to comment or not comment. It's your choice. I've tried to be very patient and explain things in a way that may come across as easier for you to understand the point I'm trying to get across. But obviously the only thing you have to say is that you are on the only person qualified to have a SD. I'll make sure to pass that along to my good friend, whose son was born at 23 weeks, has CP, and was looking into a SD of his own.

I wish you well. Take care.
 

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I'm not quite sure why no one is allowed to have a service dog except you.
This and honestly the attitude about it gets old. Other people have and do use service dogs and are capable of using their common sense and head. I actually have a friend who's son is autistic and she is training a service dog for him and it's going beautifully.

There are lots of service dogs out there, some legit and some not but lets face it, there is always going to be fakers in things.
 

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Are you ****ing kidding me? I tried to give you a suggestion for something that would help NOW and not in 2 years, and this is what I get. **** this ****. Clearly I'm not welcome here, so I'm out. Do whatever the **** you want.
Wow. She stated that she's also getting a blanket. People should be able to feel OK starting reasonable service dog discussions on Chaz.....
 

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:yikes:

I didn't even get a "I'm the only one that can have a service dog" vibe, and I'm always making mountains out of molehills. I thought she just recommended a weighted blanket to help in the meantime, since the OP said a heavy blanket was working? :confused:
 

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Wow. She stated that she's also getting a blanket. People should be able to feel OK starting reasonable service dog discussions on Chaz.....
The thing is that I still feel ok starting and continuing the discussion. I'm a fighter and I'm a mother. I will do EVERYTHING I can to help my child to not only find success in this world, but to learn how to navigate and live in this world. I want him to love his life and love living.

I just find it sad that she's in a position to truly help others, but instead she'd rather have notoriety for being the one and only. Not only is she not, but no one truly wants to feel as if they are all alone in life and life's battles.

And who knows? Maybe we'll name the pup "Blanket". :p
 

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I never once said this kid shouldn't have a service dog. NOT ONCE. I actually think 10 IS a good age to try to start working with an appropriately trained service dog with the help of a responsible adult. Speaking of assuming :rolleyes: I made a suggestion because the dog is not here now. That is a FACT. You're right, I don't know your past, and that is why I suggested a blanket, because you said a heavier blanket works for him, and that's something you can get in a matter of days or weeks, not years. How the **** am I supposed to know you already ordered one? My blanket comment had NOTHING to do with having or not having a service dog in the future. You wanted input. You wanted advice. I tried to give both and tried to be helpful, but instead of saying "Thanks, we're already getting a blanket" you say "I was really looking for a discussion that was helpful."

This is why I'm done with this. I gave advise. I gave input. Any other person would find something like "Hey, a weighted blanket can work in the meantime" to be helpful. But no. Not you. Because you're special.

:wall:

:yikes:

I didn't even get a "I'm the only one that can have a service dog" vibe, and I'm always making mountains out of molehills. I thought she just recommended a weighted blanket to help in the meantime, since the OP said a heavy blanket was working? :confused:
This. I was just suggesting a blanket. Now I know how most Chazzers really feel about me. Looks like I'll have to cross Chaz off my list of places I can comfortably visit now.
 

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I'm refraining from saying anything regarding the suitability of a SD for your son because I do not know him or how high-functioning he is, but do keep in mind that the dog will need time away from him to just be a dog and do doggy things with an adult. Every day. I find that a lot of people with SDs for their children (for whatever reason, not just autism) tend to... Forget that. Not saying you're on of those people, but it's definitely something to keep in mind! I'm sure you know to never leave them alone together, but I think that goes for all younger kids. You're a mom and you're a dog person, you get it :p

I would stay away from SDC, just because the majority of posters there are ridiculous dickholes. Admins included. That goes for almost all SD groups and forums.

I agree that the "grabbing" task that Danielle suggested is not a good idea for the reasons stated. I will look back through and check out what other tasks mentioned. Alicia, I did get your email, Ricks 13 year old autistic brother is here and things are a little crazy at the moment! He leaves on Sunday.

As for weighted blanket vs SD, I know that a weighted blanket doesnt help me even 1/4th as much a dog does. However, different strokes for different folks.
 

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And who knows? Maybe we'll name the pup "Blanket". :p

Please do. :)

I think you're doing a great job in researching this, and I hope you get the service dog that makes your son's life easier. :)
 

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Additionally, can everyone step back for a minute and quit slinging around rude comments like "she thinks she's the only one who can have a SD", etc? She said nothing of the sort. Seriously. Not helping anyone. There was clearly a miscommunication. Breathe, let it go, ask for clarification, continue being constructive. Service dogs, especially for children, can easily become a very heated topic.
 

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It's a pattern. Look up the other Service dog threads, read her comments, it's a serious undertone of "I can have it but no one else should."

Honestly, I dread the SD threads because I know the outcome is the same for all of them. A certain SD user gets all upset and is rude then throws a pity party for themselves.

I feel like some on here feel they're the only ones with a need.
 

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