Ron Paul

Have you heard of Ron Paul, a Republican Presidential Candidate?

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GlassOnion

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Yah I'm going to vote for him. He's the best candidate over Obama (*Pass*), Hillary (*yuck*), and Gulliani (*shudder*) which seem to be the most favored people in this campaign.

It may be a waste of a vote, and I'm probably wasting my time by going to city hall to vote for someone who'll very likely not win, but I can't in good conscience vote for anyone else. Would just rather not vote.
 

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Explain.

Just out of curiosity, do you like Fox News?
i don't believe i've ever watched fox news. i watch CNN occasionally (though i usually disagree with them) but mostly just listen to the candidates themselves and research what they're talking about.

i think what did it for me was when Ron Paul suggested firearms be allowed on airplaces :rolleyes: i mean, i don't think guns should be banned or anything, but i am definately not all for the "right to bear arms". I think guns should be monitored much, much more closely than Ron Paul does.

i don't know if you've ever seen the fear in someones eyes when a gun was pointed at them. i don't know if you've ever realized that you or someone you love's life was completely in another persons hands, and that person didn't really want you or your loved one to live. I don't know if anyone you know has ever been shot and killed or maimed. I don't know if you remember the sniper that killed a handful or more citizens a few years back, if you remember being afraid to pump gas because not far from you, three people just got shot for getting out of their cars. i don't know if anyone ever brought a gun to your school, to your child's school. but i do know if you've experienced any of those things, you would, or at least should, reconsider handing out guns to the American people.

Plus, i just don't think Ron Paul is capeable of handling the mess the government is in right now. I don't know if ANY of the candidiates are. I think Clinton is most capeable out of all of them. Maybe if it was a different situation, i would be voting for someone whose morals and ideals were on the same page as mine. but everywhere i go, it's worse than it was a few years ago, if that makes sense. America is sledding down an icy hill of crazy. This country won't survive another half-century if things keep going the way they're going. I honestly believe Hillary Clinton can pull this country out of the slump it's in and regain our pride, our dignity, and everything this country stands for, equality. freedom. education. opportunity. i think with Clinton in office, you will get chances you won't get with any other candidate. She'll improve micro and macro economics.

Today my mom told me Iran is claiming we faked and altered the video of their ships. What's terribly sad is, for a second, i believed it. I still might believe it. It's horrible that i can sit there and not doubt the fact that my own government is lying to me, to their people, to the world.

I don't know if she actually will be able to, but i think she has the best chance of everyone running, to make the people in this country proud to be an American
 

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Plus, i just don't think Ron Paul is capeable of handling the mess the government is in right now. I don't know if ANY of the candidiates are. I think Clinton is most capeable out of all of them.
Based on what?

Maybe if it was a different situation, i would be voting for someone whose morals and ideals were on the same page as mine.
Why would you ever vote for someone that doesn't share the same morals and ideals as you?

America is sledding down an icy hill of crazy. This country won't survive another half-century if things keep going the way they're going. I honestly believe Hillary Clinton can pull this country out of the slump it's in and regain our pride, our dignity, and everything this country stands for, equality. freedom. education. opportunity. i think with Clinton in office, you will get chances you won't get with any other candidate. She'll improve micro and macro economics.
And what do you know about economics? What will Hillary do to fix the "current situation"?

Today my mom told me Iran is claiming we faked and altered the video of their ships. What's terribly sad is, for a second, i believed it. I still might believe it. It's horrible that i can sit there and not doubt the fact that my own government is lying to me, to their people, to the world.
Why are we even dealing with Iran's ships? Why is the news even reporting that, when we have thousands (millions?) of people at home that don't have enough to eat, can't get healthcare, and are being robbed by their own government.
 

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Based on what?



Why would you ever vote for someone that doesn't share the same morals and ideals as you?



And what do you know about economics? What will Hillary do to fix the "current situation"?



Why are we even dealing with Iran's ships? Why is the news even reporting that, when we have thousands (millions?) of people at home that don't have enough to eat, can't get healthcare, and are being robbed by their own government.
1. Hillary Clinton is HIGHLY respected in the global world.
2. She has more experience than anyone running
3. She's one of the only politicians i've ever heard sound intelligent.

Why would i vote for someone who doesn't have the same morals and ideals? Because right now avoiding a war and ending the healthcare crisis is more important than whether or not Clinton thinks abortion should be legal.

What do i know about economics? A lot. Probably more than most people my age, and probably just as much as you. I know the housing market is so bad, even people who have work can't afford to move somewhere where there IS work. I know how many forclosures are happening in America. I know the minimum wage doesn't even MATTER because anyone who wants to avoid paying labor a decent amount of money can drive down to the nearest gas station and let 10 immigrants from mexico, el salvador, equador, hop on their truck and pay them 4$ an hour. Then they go to a house they don't pay taxes on and live with 40 other illegal immigrants who also make 4$ an hour and don't pay taxes. I know there are kids in America who don't eat lunch because they can't afford it, whose parents are working for 7$ an hour at Wal-mart and paying over a dollar for every hour in taxes, while the CEOs who are *barely* paying these people, celebrities and athletes are paying LESS taxes. I know the banks overloaned. I know i drive down the street and businesses that have been opened for 70+ years are closing because they can't afford taxes, because they can't afford insurance, because they can't afford rent, because they can't compete with the "big business".

I know how high on Hillary's priority list universal health care is. I know so many people would have an easier time if they didn't shell out 150$ a month so there kid can get a strep-test when his friend coughs on him. I know not one single person in America should DIE because an insurance company refuses to pay for a kidney transplant. I know if the people who owned small businesses didn't have to pay so much for health insurance, then they might be able to make rent.
 

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Why would i vote for someone who doesn't have the same morals and ideals? Because right now avoiding a war and ending the healthcare crisis is more important than whether or not Clinton thinks abortion should be legal.
Hillary Clinton voted to authorize the war in Iraq. Ron Paul voted against it. We could have avoided a war 5 years ago if politicians had a single bit of integrity.

If you realize that our economy is falling apart and you still support universal health care, you really should try to learn more about economics. It seems like you are a little bit misled. I'm being honest--not trying to start a fight.

http://www.kwaves.com/fiat.htm

http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north463.html
 

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a few years back, if you remember being afraid to pump gas because not far from you, three people just got shot for getting out of their cars
And you think gun control would have stopped that? It wouldn't. If someone wants to get a gun and shoot someone with it, they will. End of story. No amount of restrictions, barring destroying all guns on Earth, will stop that.

And universal health care would be a complete disaster. You think the kid can't get a kidney transplant NOW? Wait til everyone and their mother is on the list for the same kidney. Wait until you have to wait in the lobby for 10 hours because there is no incentive for the doctor to get around to you because there's no incentives for them to work faster/harder.
 

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Every other candidate is a member of the ONE WORLD GOVT Council on Foreign Relations! Everyone but the Doctor! They all have sold their souls to the CFR!

Clinton kicked out most of the old conservative agents, and then brought in new young liberal guys and the Media followed. Wahhabism or Wahhabi Islam and Shia Islam are Liberal. This "war on terror" will never end with this idea. Ron Paul has the right idea to win. He just doesn't say it, but anyone who indepth knows the Bill of Rights and the Constitution forsee it ... and it's a mighty thought to boot.

The Constitution is all America needs to win the war on ALL terror domestic and abroad. Who and what.

If "we the people" demand paper votes sure enough he will win. I hooked up with some people before my travels abroad and PA just might have a paper option, it's looking good.
This is a great country of real proud grassroot Americans, it's time to take her back to were the folks are real. America once again will prove not only to domestic and foriegn enemies, but to the peaceful people all around this world... America stands for something and stands brave and proud.

And for those of you who think this great nation and Constitution wasn't founded and signed with intentions your sadly mistaken. In fact, our Constitution does reference "the year of our Lord" so that, should the Messiah return as prophesied within The Holy Bible, he would not be crucified again ...or tazed in the "Land of the Free".
As with some things for clear understanding you need to read it objectively. For the Constitution of the United States where written "...the year of our Lord, seventeen hundred eighty seven..." is a direct reference from the New Testament in light... if you do not believe Moses, you will not believe me, and The Ten Commandments, and The Golden Rule.

Read this wording objectively, naw. Vote Ron Paul !!! :D

When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume, among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitles them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
 

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Both Clintons discussed becoming the president while in law school . I personally think that their marriage was a pact for the future .B, Clinton sure embarrassed me with the Monica deal !! Scum bag !! But Hillary stuck with him for her plans . To me the best presidents were those who didn't seek it out for themselves , but for the nation .
 

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What I am looking for in a candidate is someone who can adjust their thinking/actions when given new information. Calling someone out for "flip-flopping" is like ridiculing someone who is driving a car, sees a big giant tree in the road and changes course to avoid disaster. Of course, in the world of politics, hitting the tree head on and taking everyone out with you would be seen as the better choice, because it shows a firm stance on one course of action. To me, that's the height of idiocy. The definition of insanity is to keep performing the same action over and over again and expecting different results.

I would like to have a candidate that understands this country is rotting from within and just like a tree, if you don't have a strong core, it's not going to take a whole lot to take it down from the outside.

I want someone who can get this stupid country united again in a good way. We're united now, but it's in our disappointment of the current administration.

I want someone who doesn't overpromise and underdeliver.

I want someone who understands and respects personal freedom, not majority freedom.

I want someone who can, has, or at least could get both sides to really and actually work together, instead of helping everyone get bogged down in party divides.

I want someone who can save us from the brewing civil war. I can easily forsee this country tearing itself apart in a repeat of the French Revolution if this disparity in working practices and living wages isn't dealt with. I'm all for keeping what you earn and when someone making $10/hour has to apply for welfare to make ends meet...there's something direly wrong.

I want someone who will help bring a halt to the crazy outsourcing that's also helping to kill our economy. Yeah, cheaper goods. Great. What happens when no one here can buy those goods because nobody can afford to live on the wage they have?

I have no idea how much of this could even begin to be accomplished by our government. But I do know that I'm trying to live the American Dream right now in pulling myself up by my bootstraps and making my own way in the world. I want someone in office who could do something to help others make/keep their Dreams.
 

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Grammy, seriously, if Monica was the worst thing Clinton did in office, then HURRAY. At least his "oops" didn't deprive thousands of families of their parents/spouses.
 

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I hooked up with some people before my travels abroad and PA just might have a paper option, it's looking good.
I live in Lancaster and have voted on a paper ballot in every election since (and including) 2004. It is scanned by a machine, but the paper ballot has very clear boxes you fill in. No "chads" if there ever needed to be a recount.
 
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What I am looking for in a candidate is someone who can adjust their thinking/actions when given new information. Calling someone out for "flip-flopping" is like ridiculing someone who is driving a car, sees a big giant tree in the road and changes course to avoid disaster. Of course, in the world of politics, hitting the tree head on and taking everyone out with you would be seen as the better choice, because it shows a firm stance on one course of action. To me, that's the height of idiocy. The definition of insanity is to keep performing the same action over and over again and expecting different results.

I would like to have a candidate that understands this country is rotting from within and just like a tree, if you don't have a strong core, it's not going to take a whole lot to take it down from the outside.

I want someone who can get this stupid country united again in a good way. We're united now, but it's in our disappointment of the current administration.

I want someone who doesn't overpromise and underdeliver.

I want someone who understands and respects personal freedom, not majority freedom.

I want someone who can, has, or at least could get both sides to really and actually work together, instead of helping everyone get bogged down in party divides.

I want someone who can save us from the brewing civil war. I can easily forsee this country tearing itself apart in a repeat of the French Revolution if this disparity in working practices and living wages isn't dealt with. I'm all for keeping what you earn and when someone making $10/hour has to apply for welfare to make ends meet...there's something direly wrong.

I want someone who will help bring a halt to the crazy outsourcing that's also helping to kill our economy. Yeah, cheaper goods. Great. What happens when no one here can buy those goods because nobody can afford to live on the wage they have?

I have no idea how much of this could even begin to be accomplished by our government. But I do know that I'm trying to live the American Dream right now in pulling myself up by my bootstraps and making my own way in the world. I want someone in office who could do something to help others make/keep their Dreams.
Oh, now that's a post that bears repeating.

I want someone in office who could do something to help others make/keep their Dreams
The best way to help is to get out of the way . . . and take lobbyists and special interests and cronyism and sweep it into the dustbin of history.
 

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Truth and character count a lot, but, and to quote Eddie Izzard here: "We accept there are different levels of murder. There ought to be different levels of perjury. Perjury 8 is when you say you shagged someone and you didn't and perjury 1 is saying there wasn't a Holocaust when millions of people died." I realize I probably butchered the quote, but it's been a while since I've watch the show.

Lying over a blowjob...we should lock up 5/8ths of the male population then. Yeah it sucks that he took his lawyer's advice and lied on national TV. But yet again...that is probably the least offensive lie I've heard on national TV.

But we're getting away from Ron Paul and all his apparent glory.
 

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Zoom .... have you contacted Slick Willy for a party for your products ???? LOL!!!
 
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Is ANY politician honest??? NOPE.

Paul is the only Republican that I'd even consider voting in. However, I cannot vote for anyone that denies a woman the right to her own body, and that does not support stem cell research. Period.
 
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Has he stated he is against adult stem cell, or other type stem cell research? Or is he just against embrionic stem cell research?
 

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