Poor Brandi....Surgery again

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This is starting to take it's toll on the wife and I. My wife took the week off of work to stay home with Brandi. Monday her staples pulled out again. When she was in the kennel it was almost a daily thing for them to come and re-staple her incision. So she had to wait until I got home to load Brandi into the truck as she cannot lift her an no way can Brandi even attempt to get in the truck. She has lost weight (7 lbs in the last 4 wks) but with my artifisial shoulder and it's problems I have a heck of a time lifting her. Anyways, we got her to the vet and back home. Wednesday the staples came out again. I told my wife to put some Neosporin and a bandage on it and I would take her down after work and ask the vet to put stitches in it to keep it closed up. When the vet walked theu the door Brandi tried to crawl under my chair. She was terrified. I had never really seen the incision when the staples were out but when he pulled the bandage off I just about tossed my cookies. It was a hole about the size of a nickel, and you could see the tendon moving around in it. That had to be painful with air blowing or touching it. He asked me to leave her the night and he would clean it and sew it up. This was about 4:00 PM. At 6:00 he called and said everything was fine, he cleaned it, triple layered the stitches and had to trim it up a little. Now like I said when she went down at 4:00 it was the size of a nickel. Here is what it looks like now
He cut the complete incision back open to look and see if everything was alright. I think this was because I had concerns about her leg bowing in when she walked on it. After he cut it back open he had to trim away the old scar tissue so it would heal up correctly. I just feel that this ordeal just set us back 5 weeks to when she was originally operated on. And the vet is supposingly the best around the general area of all thevets and you can tell he is an animal lover by the kennel and the care he takes of them but I am starting to have my doubts about things. Then he said he was concerned about her thyroid as he did not feel her hair was growing in fast enough. So he wanted to run a thyroid test just to be sure it was alright. Well guess what? Her thyroid count is super low so she needs to be on meds 3 times a day for the rest of her life. I told the wife that we were not going to do that until her leg was healed and she was walking on her own. But when th ewife picked Brandi up, she had the guilt trip put on her and ended up buying the medicine. And to top that off, never seen the results from the test. From what I have read on the net, the ost common thyroid test is the T4 and it is not a very conclusive test at all. I told my wife when he was going to run the test it would come back positive. Brandi has never had any problems other than being overweight. And if he was so concerned about thyroid and her weight then why did he not say anything all the other times we had her down for her shots, visits, etc? And like I said before she has lost 7 lbs. Her weight problem was mainly our fault for giving too many snacks. My wife says that we will finish off this bottle of thyroid medicine and see what happens. I say no. I am afraid that if we start treating her for something that may not be a problem at all, then it might just trigger something else. Also I read where hair loss in animals can be contributed tothyroid problems. Brandi has never had this. She has always had a beautiful coat although she does shed a bit. But never has had patched come out, and does not have allergies. And with the vets concern about her hair coming in slow, they shaved her down to the nubbins to where she had razor burn before the surgery so I thought it was coming in good for 5 weeks. She had fuzz growing back the first week. and though it is not growing fast, it is coming in even. Like I said, he is a very reputable vet but I am starting to have my doubts on his abilities at some things. Her other leg that had the TPLO surgery is healed and you can hardly even see the scar. I realize that these are two different surgeries and one is considerably more costly, but in the longrun, if we had known, we would have had the TPLO done on her first leg instead of the convetional surgery. By the time it is all over and done we will have just as much or more in it than the TPLO. At least he did not charge for what he did the other evening. Sorry for the long thread. I just wanted to update and vent at the same time. If anyone ever has to have their pets ACL repaired, consider the extra money and the TPLO surgery. Or at least make very sure the vet knows what he is doing and ask for some references as to other dogs he has done so you can talk to the owners and see how satisfied they are. I just pray that Brandi regains 100% of her leg and not end up lame in that leg. And although she is a Golden, she is not a hunting dog, nor a jumping dog, so the risk of her re-injuring her leg should be minimal. Oh well, like I said...sorry for the long thread. Venting does take up room. LOL!!!!
 

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Oh, I'm so sorry! It all looked to be going so well for Brandi! Especially after all that surgery!! I do feel so sorry for all of you! You must be on the edge of your seats all the time!
As for the Thyroid thing?! I know less than nothing about Tyroid complaints in dogs!! I don't think five weeks is a long time to regrow hair though, I would imagine all dogs are different! Some will grow hair faster than others, and Golden's have such a thick and long coat, she's going to look a bit bald until it's completely grown back to normal, because the rest of her coat is so dense!

I hope that Brandi continues to get better and has a speedy recovery! Please keep us posted!

Feel free to vent away!! That's what we're here for! :)
 

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Kevin, I just want to say I'm so sorry to hear what Brandi and you & your wife ar going through. I know someone on this site might have some insight into the Thyroid for you. Please keep us updated. Brandi is a member of our family. Doggie hugs and kisses to you all.
 

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Kevin, Maybe you could post your thyroid question in the Dog Health Care section also.
 

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Poor Brandi!!!! I'm no help, but will just pray for a quick recovery this time.
 
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Brandi is very lucky to belong to your family Kevin!

Of course her hair is going to grow back slowly! Not only is her body having to expend a lot of energy healing two major surgeries, any woman who has ever been on a diet can tell you that hair just doesn't grow as quickly when you're dieting!

You're right to be concerned about the thyroid. I would definitely want a second opinion on the thyroid - I'd ask the vet who did the TPLO surgery (wasn't that a different vet?) for a recommendation if he doesn't do them.
 

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I am going to ask the other vet that did the TPLO about the thyroid condition. I think I put more trust in them as they are a University Vet Clinic that teaches some of the best vets around so they are up on the latest greatest. Not saying my vet isn't but before shelling out money for meds I would have at least like to seen the test results. In the past, both of our dogs have had itching problems. Our Collie (Nikki) moreso than Brandi. We had an allergy test ran and supposingly Nikki was allergic to grass pollen, and some type of weed that I cannot remember right off. So at that time I was prescribed some medication that I myself have to give her once a month. It works for about two days. She does not scratch and itch constantly but if you put your hand on her back towards her butt it will set her off. Well it wasn't doing any good so I ask him (vet) about it and he tells me that they never check for everything when they do the allergy test as there are so many things to check for. Now I shelled out $200 for this test and it was costing $100 every few months for the serum and I have to administer the shot. Which reminds me...if you ever have to administer shots yourself, you have to give it to them in the back of the neck by pulling up on the skin...Make sure you keep your thumb out of the way on the other side of where you grab. I went thru the skin and into my thumb. Youch!!!!! But anyways, when we had Brandi over to the Ohio State Clinic he told me that most problems with dogs itching is food allergies. And usually switching to a different (and probably more expensive) food usually takes care of it. And the food allergies can be related back to dog treats also. So they said to us that before shelling out a lot of money on test and such, change the diet and see what happens with that. Now that is coming from a place that could really be soaking people. So I do have respect for that. I have respect for anyone in a business that tries to save a person money and not gouge them. So when Brandi goes back over in a couple of weeks for her TPLO checkup I will have a ton of questions. And hopefully walk out of there feeling real good about something.

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im so sorry for all of you. the worry must have you absolutely strung out and Brandi...i can so empathize with my own health battles. It is a hard and long climb up. Love to you all..and will hold you in silent meditation.
 

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Thyroid problem?

Do you notice a little bit of dandruff? My golden is 13 1/2 years old and has been on thyroid meds for a couple of years. She is also overweight with a tendency for fat pockets, which are impossible to get rid of without surgery. In this stage of the game I am reluctant to do that (because she just had major surgery for a tumor on her anus and she had bladder cancer). She is doing remakably well for all of these problems and the thyroid medication has done wonders for her. Thyroid problems can affect a dogs heart, metabolism and skin dramatically. If you have questions about this vet I encourage you to get a second opinion, but if the dog does have a low thyroid, medication would probably help the overall recovery process.

I know that it is hard going through this with a vet. I have had two dogs in and out of the hospital for the last year. With my golden, I know that I made the right decisions. With my OES, I feel that she was way too sick and I should have put her down six weeks before I did. Instead, I pushed her bak to life only to have her body fail in other ways. Six weeks and over 12K later, I made the decision to let her go. It sounds that Brandi is more like my golden- a fighter and she will be just fine, but you need to be comfortable with your decisions. You should really get a second opinion before you decide to say no to the meds.

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Kevin, there are several good threads about feeding dogs to avoid allergies in the Dog Food forum that will help you, and Mordy's always an e-mail away if you follow the link in her signature.

If there are grass/pollen allergies involved, the best - and cheapest - fix for them is to give your dogs a spoonful of locally produced, raw honey every day. It will desensitize them to most of the pollens in your vicinity. It works very well for people too!
 

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I'm so sorry Kevin for what you've all been through. From what I've heard OSU has an excellent vet school. I couldn't gather whether you've taken her there. When my Golden had a brain tumor, my vet here in Indiana recommended me taking her there even though we have Purdue here....( just because of their expertiece in that field ) If you haven't, I'd call there and state your problems. Good luck and keep us posted.
 

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Yep...Ohio State is where she went for the TPLO surgery. The name of the clinic is Ohio State MedVet. I was really impressed with them.

Kevin
 

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